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[Jolemai]

No, they aren't 40k unit.

[Blindhamster]

1 hour ago, Dont-Be-Haten said:

30k. Can Crimson Paladins be played in 40k?

Edit: this was mostly just my thoughts after playing against Blood Angels recently. But Heresy Angels feel like how blood angels should play, better than 8th edition, or the sparing games I've played in 9th.

able to articulate why? I can't say I felt like they played especially differently? 8th/9th blood angels getting their bonuses first round of combat regardless of being charged made sense to me more than new HH only getting it if they charge. Both versions can field plenty of jump infantry in cool ways, but sanguinary guard are infinitely cooler than dawnbreakers IMO. Crimson Paladins are quite cool. I don't think very much of the new version of day of revelations in HH, day of sorrows is apparently good. Both are thematic enough though.

[Spagunk]

4 hours ago, Dont-Be-Haten said:

Hmm...I thought the shields only gave -1 to wound in melee. No book in hand, will need to investigate later.

But the reaction to charge in the opponent's shooting phase and gaining a 5+++ with that reaction is tough to deal with, especially if they have a single perdition axe with Brutal (2).

It's the, "I need more melta!" Answer for sure lol.

Edit: 30k Blood Angels feel more like Blood Angels than 40k 100 billion percent!

No, you're correct: Melee only. I just wanted to use a STR 4 item as an example. The shields are melee only.

[Dont-Be-Haten]

2 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

able to articulate why? I can't say I felt like they played especially differently? 8th/9th blood angels getting their bonuses first round of combat regardless of being charged made sense to me more than new HH only getting it if they charge. Both versions can field plenty of jump infantry in cool ways, but sanguinary guard are infinitely cooler than dawnbreakers IMO. Crimson Paladins are quite cool. I don't think very much of the new version of day of revelations in HH, day of sorrows is apparently good. Both are thematic enough though.

I feel like they are faster, maybe HH just makes marines feel like marines again...and don't rely on a lot of character bubbles to do what they need to do (aside from sang priests/apothecaries). The incadus dreadnought is pretty wild, and feels more devastating than our furiosos in combat.

Angel's Tears are cool models, and the army doesn't feel shoe-horned into needing 30 Sanguinary Guard to be considered good. 

On a side note, basic troops being able to wound on 2s or 3s with shred on the charge can also be rather fearsome. Roll that into some thematic jump infantry with line and it just feels like a better rendition of 40k Blood Angels. 

Edit: what i mean by marines feeling like marines again. My experience mainly comes from the hero hammer 8th edition of Death Company Captains with Thunder Hammers and Storm shields flying around everywhere, killing things they have no business killing in a single round of combat with no downside, which never felt like Blood Angels, but was a staple in many of my lists. But this also bothered me across the board that a space marine captain could kill daemon primarchs and knights by himself in combat. While cool in its own right, never felt like what a single marine should be able to do. Couple this with the aura RTS versus simulations style differences of the game intensifies my feelings on the matter.

More thoughts: and I love Sanguinary Guard, and death company but 40ks environment has strongly pushed players to just rely on them to the point of over usage. This is just the narrative driven mind set I have.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Dont-Be-Haten

[Blindhamster]

Just interesting to read, thanks for the thoughts :)

[Dont-Be-Haten]

21 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

Just interesting to read, thanks for the thoughts :)

Of course BH. And you know we agree on a lot and have minor differences here and there. That's okay we're still Fraters of the IXth. I just hope I was able to articulate my thoughts in a way that 1. Made sense. & 2. Doesn't come across as a jerk or incentive to those that favor the 8th-9th edition ruleset. 

[Blindhamster]

Not at all brother, all makes sense :)

for me personally, I’m not overly impressed by either system lol. Think the only 40K ish ruleset I’ve liked for a while is kill team lol

[Dont-Be-Haten]

2 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

Not at all brother, all makes sense :)

for me personally, I’m not overly impressed by either system lol. Think the only 40K ish ruleset I’ve liked for a while is kill team lol

Skirmish is definitely an avenue to take with a lot of the 40k universe right now. Necromunda and Kill team have their places. I do wish Shadow War would've been better over all. But again, 30k has renewed my love of table topping and I feel like I've found my niche. Going forward I'm going to test Blood Bowl, and Necromunda, maybe Warcry, maybe maybe kill team. 

[Blindhamster]

Necromunda and warcry are fab too

[Jolemai]

Latest Unit of the Week:

https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375584-unit-of-the-week-terminus-ultra/

[Jolemai]

New Unit of the Week entry:

• Tarantula Air Defence Battery

[Dont-Be-Haten]

I was recently taking stock of my old red boys. And got nostalgic from the 30k aspect, and realized how awesome my 5th edition drop pod assault army was.

I really miss that army. On a side note, may bring it back in 30k. Only problem is not having the marks to do it. :(

[Spagunk]

I actually got this done on Saturday but my weekend was busy

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[Majkhel]

Very nice job on these ah... devastators!

I like the DC cross turned into a the old Heavy Support mark - really creative bits usage, well done

I see some Rainbow Warriors references too

[Spagunk]

Call me old school, but ye olde rainbow printer cables had a flair all their own.

[Majkhel]

They definitely do!

[Jolemai]

New Unit of the Week entry:

• Tarantula Sentry Gun

[NinjaBadger7]

On 9/5/2022 at 10:05 PM, Spagunk said:

I actually got this done on Saturday but my weekend was busy

 

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They look great! Can I ask what your method for the red was?

[Spagunk]

7 hours ago, NinjaBadger7 said:

They look great! Can I ask what your method for the red was?

Just drybrushing:

• Base Mephiston red(vallejo heavy red)
• Nuln Oil wash (two coats for Meph Red or 1 for Vallejo Red)
• Drybrush layer 1 Meph/Heavy red
• Drybrush layer 2 Evil Sunz Red

GW posted a video that I pretty much stole the recipe from: 

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Spagunk

[Sugarlessllama]

Well, I just had my third match of 9th edition today. I was finally able to field 1,000 points of my BA Successor Chapter fully painted, so that is what I ran. My opponent played Custodes. Oof. I was tabled without killing a single thing. Not a single model.

[Jolemai]

Harsh, sadly it sounds like there was a lot of things against you. We've all been there, so try not to be disheartened too much 

What did you take? Perhaps we can help you fine-tune it for next time?

 

[Sugarlessllama]

Here is my list

 

1,000 point Battalion: Templars Encarmine (BA: Whirlwind of Rage, Tactical Withdrawl)

HQ

Primaris Chaplain (Warlord)

- Gift of Foresight

- Heroic Bearing

- The Armor Indomitus

 

Librarian Dreadnought

- Speed of the Primarch

*Wings of Sanguinius 

*Shield of Sanguinius

 

Troops

Assault intercessor squad x 5

- Stock

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

 

Elites

Aggressor squad x 3

- Flamestorm gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran squad x 3

- Stock

Death Company x 5

- Jump packs

- 3 powerswords

Furioso Dreadnought

- Stock

________________

995 points

 

 

I had not idea what the guy was bringing, as I usually don't ask what someone is bringing before a match. But when I was putting together what models I would need for the game I focused on two things: Fully painted, and unique to the codex. So I really wanted to include DC, Libby Dread, and the Furioso Dread since those were models since they met that criteria. But the fact that I could charge his troops with two dreads, and a unit of DC and all three bounce off of them and get murderized in return? I don't see how these rules were considered a good idea back in Nottingham. 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Sugarlessllama

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, Sugarlessllama said:

Here is my list

 

1,000 point Battalion: Templars Encarmine (BA: Whirlwind of Rage, Tactical Withdrawl)

HQ

Primaris Chaplain (Warlord)

- Gift of Foresight

- Heroic Bearing

- The Armor Indomitus

 

Librarian Dreadnought

- Speed of the Primarch

*Wings of Sanguinius 

*Shield of Sanguinius

 

Troops

Assault intercessor squad x 5

- Stock

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

 

Elites

Aggressor squad x 3

- Flamestorm gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran squad x 3

- Stock

Death Company x 5

- Jump packs

- 3 powerswords

Furioso Dreadnought

- Stock

________________

995 points

 

 

I had not idea what the guy was bringing, as I usually don't ask what someone is bringing before a match. But when I was putting together what models I would need for the game I focused on two things: Fully painted, and unique to the codex. So I really wanted to include DC, Libby Dread, and the Furioso Dread since those were models since they met that criteria. But the fact that I could charge his troops with two dreads, and a unit of DC and all three bounce off of them and get murderized in return? I don't see how these rules were considered a good idea back in Nottingham. 

That sounds like a lot of bad luck for you or possibly like maybe he wasn’t being straight up about his rules…

[Sugarlessllama]

59 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

That sounds like a lot of bad luck for you or possibly like maybe he wasn’t being straight up about his rules…

I mean, it is very possible. He didn't have a codex with him and was running everything off of Battlescribe. But my policy has always been that if someone needs a win so badly that they would cheat in a friendly game....then they really need the win and not worry about it. 

[Dont-Be-Haten]

On 9/15/2022 at 10:43 PM, Sugarlessllama said:

Well, I just had my third match of 9th edition today. I was finally able to field 1,000 points of my BA Successor Chapter fully painted, so that is what I ran. My opponent played Custodes. Oof. I was tabled without killing a single thing. Not a single model.

40k is just in a bad place for Space Marines in general. Don't feel too bad I've heard this same story from multiple space marine players in my 30k group.

18 hours ago, Sugarlessllama said:

Here is my list

 

1,000 point Battalion: Templars Encarmine (BA: Whirlwind of Rage, Tactical Withdrawl)

HQ

Primaris Chaplain (Warlord)

- Gift of Foresight

- Heroic Bearing

- The Armor Indomitus

 

Librarian Dreadnought

- Speed of the Primarch

*Wings of Sanguinius 

*Shield of Sanguinius

 

Troops

Assault intercessor squad x 5

- Stock

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

Intercessor squad x 5

- Bolt rifles

 

Elites

Aggressor squad x 3

- Flamestorm gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran squad x 3

- Stock

Death Company x 5

- Jump packs

- 3 powerswords

Furioso Dreadnought

- Stock

________________

995 points

 

 

I had not idea what the guy was bringing, as I usually don't ask what someone is bringing before a match. But when I was putting together what models I would need for the game I focused on two things: Fully painted, and unique to the codex. So I really wanted to include DC, Libby Dread, and the Furioso Dread since those were models since they met that criteria. But the fact that I could charge his troops with two dreads, and a unit of DC and all three bounce off of them and get murderized in return? I don't see how these rules were considered a good idea back in Nottingham. 

Did you use stock BA traits or custom? What mission? The major problem I see with this list is its super melee focused which isn't where you want to be with Custodes.