Stercus Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think you could get away with each chaplain wearing the usual black armour, with his left pad showing the chapter badge, and the right showing a personal badge incorporating the cult that he specialises in. Most other chapters just use a skull for the right pad, but I think we could adjust it in this way without looking too deviant from the codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't know, I feel like chaplains would be exempt from having one specific patron. They are the preachers of the chapter's faith, delivering fiery sermons and conducting elaborate rituals to venerate the chapter's patron dieties. Limiting a chaplain to a single primarch cuts down on his ability to serve his chapter and maintan the faith, a battle-brother - regardless of cult - should be able to seek out his cmpany chaplan on matters of faith. Maybe the symbol that goes on their kneepad would change depending on the divinations and what primarch would be most suited for the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't know, I feel like chaplains would be exempt from having one specific patron. They are the preachers of the chapter's faith, delivering fiery sermons and conducting elaborate rituals to venerate the chapter's patron dieties. Limiting a chaplain to a single primarch cuts down on his ability to serve his chapter and maintan the faith, a battle-brother - regardless of cult - should be able to seek out his cmpany chaplan on matters of faith. Maybe the symbol that goes on their kneepad would change depending on the divinations and what primarch would be most suited for the task. My view is more that chaplains tend to focus on a specific Primarch but are still fully capable of dealing with rituals involving others. Perhaps it is that there is one chaplain that focuses in depth on each Primarch while the others are more generalized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Could we perhaps go the route of having chaplains be well versed in the faith of the whole pantheon, but after consulting with the librarius each mission is given the blessing of a Primarch (or group of Primarchs) according to the the divinations and portents and then the chaplain accompanying the force dons the insignia of the Primarchs concerned and acts as a reminder to the troops in theatre of the blessing of their patrons. Basically, the chaplains are all generalists up until they enter the warzone upon which point they adopt the persona of the particular Primarch deemed most appropriate for the success of the endeavour. It would also offer the possibility of a chaplain that dons the aspect of a particular Primarch so often that they become something of a specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I like that. "Hail, brethren. I am Sigmund Hoch, aspect of Dorn, we shall rain down hell upon our enemies this day! Our onslaught shall be relentless and our bloodthirst unsatiable! None can withstand the might of our power! Now, let us go and set our place at the table in Hell's dining hall!" *cheers, wardrums, and battle hymns commence* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 And the shieldwall marches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think this was mentioned earlier, but should the grey on the armour be change to gun metal/ silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I don't think silver is the way to go, something that bright would clash too much with the cat pelts and various fetishes that our chapter cults lead inevitably to. Maybe a gunmetal grey as a contrast to the blue, but I think we'll only really know for sure when a few test models have been painted. Will try to put colours on a couple of actual models by next weekend for us to have a look at. I'm a long way from a great painter but you never really know how a scheme looks til you see it on a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I don't think silver is the way to go, something that bright would clash too much with the cat pelts and various fetishes that our chapter cults lead inevitably to. Maybe a gunmetal grey as a contrast to the blue, but I think we'll only really know for sure when a few test models have been painted. Will try to put colours on a couple of actual models by next weekend for us to have a look at. I'm a long way from a great painter but you never really know how a scheme looks til you see it on a model. If I could take a non blurry picture I'd post my tester. I have one done up using just leadbelcher, I'm going to try one that is shaded a bit to tone down the shiny. The grey (I tried Ulthuan) was really contrasty, and I might have to pick up a darker grey and try that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Leadbelcher was kind of what I was getting at. I always worry about shiny metallic tones as a basic colour for something like astartes with a base of solid smooth panels. I'd be really interested to see some pics of your ideas. So far I have a model that I want paint in Knights Panthera colours, but I'm not sure how those colours will end up. Really though, I think the colour that works for the grey/metallic will depend on the shade of blue that we end up on. I'm torn between something vibrant and turquoise-y, in which case a dark metallic like leadbelcher would be good, or a nice rich navy colour, in which case I think a paler grey would work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I think the navy would actually look quite nice, it's a nice, dark, regal colour. It actually doesn't look too bad with the leadbelcher. I think throwing some nuln oil on the leadbelcher parts will really tie it all together though. I also went with gold aquila and trims, so the metals were competing a bit, which is another motive for me to dull the leadbelcher.Although, I wonder what it'd look like using an actual yellow instead. Hm... I have so much to try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Metallic blue is also an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Wow. How'd you do the blue, good sir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Boltgun metal with a few washes of Asurmen Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Is that the glaze or is it a wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The blue is amazing, the grey is a little over-washed for my tastes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 A wash, its from before they changed their line of paints. Supposedly -Citadel Shade Drakenhof Nightshade- is the equivalent but I can't say for certain how close it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'll have to grab some when I make a paint run. It looks amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 For the colours I was thinking something a little like this:http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8801/d03or1aos2dlo589g.jpgNot too sure on the brown though the orange kinda seems out of place too http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/80b6/jhmz3e20j21douy9g.jpg Still not sure on the stripes, perhaps dots like an actual pantha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Personally I like the blue/ grey quartered scheme better than the brown. The brown seems a little to outside the box for a codex colour scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It reminds me a little of the really old badab war colour schemes. As I recall they were explained away as the war being so brutal and desperate that the chapters involved discarded their heraldry to utilise a more camouflaged style. While I definitely prefer the quartered scheme, I can see this being used possibly for specific theatres where stealth is more important than intimidation. In general though, I think the quartered scheme fits more closely with the vibe we are establishing for the Knight Panthera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Maybe the quartered scheme is ceremonial armour, for non-combat situations, and there are different camoflauge patterns for different theatres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Im really not a fan of the blue and grey quartered scheme, it just looks like the colours of the Space Wolves and Ultramarines thrown into one which are the two chapters that influenced the Knights Panthera. I wanted something a bit more special but i think i might be in the minority there. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Im really not a fan of the blue and grey quartered scheme, it just looks like the colours of the Space Wolves and Ultramarines thrown into one which are the two chapters that influenced the Knights Panthera. I wanted something a bit more special but i think i might be in the minority there. :'( What if the camo scheme is the one they use against non-worthy foes and the quartered one for worthy foes. Also with the metallic blue I don't really get an Ultramarines vibe from the colour scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Cato Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think I jaguar print camo would be cool, fo specific combat situations. In an urban or spacecraft setting I think the quartering would be more appropriate for combat situations. Or maybe this: Vets, captains, command squads, and the chapter master use the quartered while the rank and file use appropriate camo for the theatre they're operating in. Perhaps it is through veterancy and achievement is how a brother earns the right to wear his chapter's livery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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