Rizara Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Anyone else notice the terminator librarian with fore axe and combi melta in that appendix picture. It's a totally new scupt!!! And while I was looking at crating a phoenix themed marine chapter using blood angel rules, that new tactical kit talked me into just doing a third incarnation on my blood Angels successor, so the Scions of Blood will be making a reappearance soon, when imcan find time to paint and build an army. Darn was not wanting to do black and red marines again... Lol but those new bits are so dang amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 So here's a question: when are they going to put those new bases on sale, or have they already and I don't know where to look? I hate my Blood Angels' bases and these new ones are a great excuse to redo them well. (plus I don't have like a billion to do so it's not a big deal for me…I get that it is for others) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Since all the models in the Deathstorm box set have furious charge, I suspect that furious charge is the new army-wide rule replacing blood thirst. Captain Karlaen's "strategic genius" rule is unfortunately just a pre-determined warlord trait from the BRB and not a special rule. It's a good trait to have, though as you can plan a list around it if you know you're going to have it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Since all the models in the Deathstorm box set have furious charge, I suspect that furious charge is the new army-wide rule replacing blood thirst. Captain Karlaen's "strategic genius" rule is unfortunately just a pre-determined warlord trait and not a special rule. This makes me believe that one of the new codex warlord table traits is "strategic genius". The iTunes preview shows the fluff for warlord traits and it's not one of them - seems to be unique to Karlean. Agree on furious charge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm working on compiling the iBooks and eBook previews into PDFs that we can just download and look at. A couple things I noticed: there are Blood Angel Assault Marines in one of the pictures, but they are definitely the old ones as they are still on the 25mm bases. Looks like Seth comes in at 155 points and is a Lord of War. Lastly, Descent of Angels is just a Warlord Trait now it seems. Here's the Warlord Table. Anyone want to speculate on these: More very soon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/codex-ba-alt4.PNG Right there Huh. Weird. My preview talks about the Blood Drinkers instead... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So...Descent is a Warlord Trait now.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm working on compiling the iBooks and eBook previews into PDFs that we can just download and look at. A couple things I noticed: there are Blood Angel Assault Marines in one of the pictures, but they are definitely the old ones as they are still on the 25mm bases. Looks like Seth comes in at 155 points and is a Lord of War. Lastly, Descent of Angels is just a Warlord Trait now it seems. Here's the Warlord Table. Anyone want to speculate on these: More very soon... I am the spectulator! I spectaculate. 1) Rampage USR 2) Fleet USR, perhaps granted to his squad as well? 3) One weapon is Master Crafted. 4) Adamantium Will (Duh) 5) Could be the old Descent of Angels. Could be something even nicer (ie. the entire army scatters less with jump packs - this warlord doesn't scatter at all). In other words, maybe this is Dante's Warlord Trait. 6) Some kind of morale boosting effect. I predict that this is Tycho's "everyone in the army uses his Ld score" power. This is Tycho's Warlord Trait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 anyone else notice the vampire teeth on the tactical squad sgt? Space Vampires NOOOOOOOOO i did Not a huge fan. Can anyone tell me where in our fluff it mentions our teeth going like that? Well, there's some fairly explicit stuff about various successor's ritual consumption of blood and/or flesh of their enemies , so the space vampire idea is there. Then, there's the Angels Sanguine who don't take their helmets off for anyone not in the chapter. Taken in conjunction the implication is fangs or some other deformity Basically, though, no. I've not seen any fluff that explicitly states we have fangs. I think GW like there being the suggestion that some might have them and so they do stuff like this to stoke the fire every now and then. Gotta say, I'm not a fan of it being overt either. In Blood Quest they show BA with a hell of a lot more than just fangs, though fangs are shown. Granted that is also second edition fluff. I do not know of anything more recent than that. Good story considering where it occurs in the development of the hobby. Its no ADB, but you take what you can get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm working on compiling the iBooks and eBook previews into PDFs that we can just download and look at. A couple things I noticed: there are Blood Angel Assault Marines in one of the pictures, but they are definitely the old ones as they are still on the 25mm bases. Looks like Seth comes in at 155 points and is a Lord of War. Lastly, Descent of Angels is just a Warlord Trait now it seems. Here's the Warlord Table. Anyone want to speculate on these: More very soon... 1-Str bonus on the charge? Rage maybe? 2-Obvious Initiative bonus. 3-His weapons become mastercrafted. 4-Adamantinum will. Maybe some other bonus when trying to dispell. 5-Rerolling reserve rolls and scattering less. 6-Giving a Ld bubble. Maybe auto fearless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So, a vanilla terminator captain w/ TH is 135 points. That model has the chapter tactics SR. Captain Karlaen has furious charge as the BA "chapter tactic". Captain Karlaen is 160 points. You're paying 25 points for his TH to be master crafted and for him to have a pre-determined warlord trait. Seems very pricey to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Also, they should have made more of the dice. I got my Codex, the cards, some novels I did not realize they released, but they were sold out of the dice already. Not cool GW, not cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So, a vanilla terminator captain w/ TH is 135 points. That model has the chapter tactics SR. Captain Karlaen has furious charge as the BA "chapter tactic". Captain Karlaen is 160 points. You're paying 25 points for his TH to be master crafted and for him to have a pre-determined warlord trait. Seems very pricey to me. A vanilla TDA captain is base 120 pts. A master crafted hammer is 30 pts. He is 10 pts more expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The iTunes preview shows the fluff for warlord traits and it's not one of them - seems to be unique to Karlean. Agree on furious charge Just remembered that "Strategic Genius" is one of the BRB warlord traits. Karlaen just gets it as pre-determined. So, a vanilla terminator captain w/ TH is 135 points. That model has the chapter tactics SR. Captain Karlaen has furious charge as the BA "chapter tactic". Captain Karlaen is 160 points. You're paying 25 points for his TH to be master crafted and for him to have a pre-determined warlord trait. Seems very pricey to me. A vanilla TDA captain is base 120 pts. A master crafted hammer is 30 pts. He is 10 pts more expensive. Where did you get the price for a master crafted hammer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 A thunderhammer is generally 20 points, Master-Crafted 10. Add both up and voila. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 A thunderhammer is generally 20 points, Master-Crafted 10. Add both up and voila. Vanilla terminator captains come with a power weapon so the hammer is only a 15 point upgrade for them. Applying 10 points for MC means the model would be 145 points, 15 less than Carlean. Ahhhh, I see. In addition to the pre-determined warlord trait, Karlean has counter attack. I guess that is what you're paying for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'll just leave this here... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I am certainly getting one. It will cost an arm and a leg but it looks great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizara Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 That's the new librarian terminator armor,,though this shot doesn't include the combi melta Love the stride he has with his hand getting ready to cast and the axe is in motion with his stride instead of the static result they did for the sanguinary priest who stole a dark Angels robes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'll just leave this here... MUST. CONVERT. TO. LOYALIST WORLD EATERS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'll just leave this here... Nice model! Nicer even than the space Hulk one, much better pose I think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 oh also he has a Blood drop on his knee and on his hip! Cant make out his shoulders but it might be The BA chapter insignia on one of them. So this is definetly looking like another BA model! Easily cleaned up for any other chapter though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 A thunderhammer is generally 20 points, Master-Crafted 10. Add both up and voila. Vanilla terminator captains come with a power weapon so the hammer is only a 15 point upgrade for them. Applying 10 points for MC means the model would be 145 points, 15 less than Carlean. Ahhhh, I see. In addition to the pre-determined warlord trait, Karlean has counter attack. I guess that is what you're paying for. Counter attack AND furious charge. Points wise he's actually very well priced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I got the SH Librarian for £12.50. I imagine this guy will set a record for a single plastic figure. Does look cool, but I'd really like to go back to Librarians having helmets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I was having such a nice time over here in the BA sub, and then someone just had to bust out the blue armor. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/38/#findComment-3881086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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