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Charlo Venerable Brother

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I just read all 82 pages of this forum and it took me three days and I must say I can't WAIT TO KILL EVERYTHING MY 80 DEATH COMPANY will be put to good use especially with meph add another librarian quickening on two squids of 15 DC and throw in two tacts and DP my ASMs with melta meltas +1 INT +1 STR WHOLE ARMY CAN I GET AN AMMMMENNNNNNN IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS CODEX IVE BEEN WAITING SINCE I WAS 15 FOR A NEW ONE OMG I LOVE B&C for such a great forum/community! everything I own is going to be thrown into a apoc game at my house im hosting against my uncle who has 10k pts nids and I have 10kpts Blood Angels AND IM GOIN TO charge him with everything and beat him to a pulp in melee #TOOEXCITED Kill main burn?

I just love the unrelenting joy of this almost single sentence laugh.png I feel the same brother!

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There's just so many ways to wreck face it's not even funny (or is it!) I'm so glad we got such a cc buff even if we lost jumpers as troops...and just imagine what will happen when 8th edition hits and overwatch is removed together with random charge distance biggrin.png

Edit: Kill maim burn is borderline heretic, don't say that aloud near a chaplain.

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....I must say I can't WAIT TO KILL EVERYTHING....everything I own is going to be thrown into a apoc game at my house im hosting against my uncle who has 10k pts nids and I have 10kpts Blood Angels AND IM GOIN TO charge him with everything and beat him to a pulp in melee #TOOEXCITED Kill main burn?

Any Chaplains around? Our brother here is most definitely showing the signs, and should be added to the already swelling ranks of the B&C Death Company.

 

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....I must say I can't WAIT TO KILL EVERYTHING....everything I own is going to be thrown into a apoc game at my house im hosting against my uncle who has 10k pts nids and I have 10kpts Blood Angels AND IM GOIN TO charge him with everything and beat him to a pulp in melee #TOOEXCITED Kill main burn?

Any Chaplains around? Our brother here is most definitely showing the signs, and should be added to the already swelling ranks of the B&C Death Company.

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I think Knife and Fork is in charge of the Reclusiam with my retirement and subsequent dreadnought internment. He can handle DC duties now.

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I just read all 82 pages of this forum and it took me three days and I must say I can't WAIT TO KILL EVERYTHING MY 80 DEATH COMPANY will be put to good use especially with meph add another librarian quickening on two squids of 15 DC and throw in two tacts and DP my ASMs with melta meltas +1 INT +1 STR WHOLE ARMY CAN I GET AN AMMMMENNNNNNN IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS CODEX IVE BEEN WAITING SINCE I WAS 15 FOR A NEW ONE OMG I LOVE B&C for such a great forum/community! everything I own is going to be thrown into a apoc game at my house im hosting against my uncle who has 10k pts nids and I have 10kpts Blood Angels AND IM GOIN TO charge him with everything and beat him to a pulp in melee #TOOEXCITED Kill main burn?

I just love the unrelenting joy of this almost single sentence laugh.png I feel the same brother!

Lol I apologize for the huge run on sentence but i can't bottle up my excitement much longer! My girlfriend and I have been reading this forum closely (she doesn't play but she wanted to know what to buy me for christmas hehe) I'm happily getting two new tact boxes two rhinos Mephy two librarians and le Sang guard edition for codex. But my friend truly today is a day to rejoice in the emperors and sanguinious's name! (lol i think I spelled my Primarchs name wrong) I'm literally rushing everything across the field ASAP and charging everything first chance i get. I'm going to be running down everyone with pitch forks and torches screaming Burn em Burn the Witch Burn em with my new Hvyflr Tacts (evil laugh here) Im popping a bottle of champagne tonight in Le celebration God bless this forum and the joy and excitement it has given me I havent been this happy for christmas in years

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Okay, so... Sleep deprivation is in full swing and the coffee has yet to take effect... I know that DC can be either have JP or regular backpack. Do Assault Marines still get the choice to go JP or regular backpack?

 

I'm mainly asking because I currently have 15 of 20 Assault Marines magnetized, and if they remain JP only now, then I can spare the magnets for weaponry and other squads.

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I am quite interested in the idea of using command squads as a melta delivery system. The price is about 30 points higher than simmilarly tooled assault squads but they have several advantages.

 

• FNP and Company Champion built-in.

• Veteran stats.

• Do not use up an FA slot (leaves it free for grav bikers).

 

I know they can take JPs at the same price per-head as melta bombs. Can they also take pods for alpha-striking?

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Okay, so... Sleep deprivation is in full swing and the coffee has yet to take effect... I know that DC can be either have JP or regular backpack. Do Assault Marines still get the choice to go JP or regular backpack?

 

I'm mainly asking because I currently have 15 of 20 Assault Marines magnetized, and if they remain JP only now, then I can spare the magnets for weaponry and other squads.

 

ASM can remove jump packs and take a Rhino or Drop Pod for free.  No Razorbacks for you! (Soup Nazi style)

I am quite interested in the idea of using command squads as a melta delivery system. The price is about 30 points higher than simmilarly tooled assault squads but they have several advantages.

 

• FNP and Company Champion built-in.

• Veteran stats.

• Do not use up an FA slot (leaves it free for grav bikers).

 

I know they can take JPs at the same price per-head as melta bombs. Can they also take pods for alpha-striking?

 

I believe this was confirmed, they can take Rhino, Razorback and Drop Pod as dedicated Transport.  Even if they couldn't, you could have bought a Drop Pod as a FA vehicle and mount them in it during deployment.  Rest easy.

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just wrote up my 1850 point list for the new dex!! 

Despite all the Dante gushing, I think that the new IC Meph (with point reduction) is a huge boon the army. Meph's biggest challenge was overcoming his non-IC status. The Corbulo star helped him a lot, but with IC now, it is unnecessary. In a pod with 9 DC, he is a big force multiplier for them. DC axes can deal with AP2 which is mephs biggest shortfall. Aside from monsters like Abaddon and Draigo, not much is going to stand up to this unit!

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Charlo Venerable Brother

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I think I'm going to have to convert some Grav Jet bikers biggrin.png I do love bikes and just imagine Grav Bikers with a Priest Attached?!? Blast people into oblivion then Charge them with WS/I/S 5! ...Plus it goes with my fluff a little better.

I have to ask tho bro's, what is "Alpha-Strike"? I see it mentioned a lot but really have no clue as I'm only just getting back into everything this edition!

EDIT: Also, the Tycho nerfs have just hit me mellow.png why lose the dead man's hand?! It's such a cool part of his model. I guess it's to keep the AP2 at initiative for the Master of our Bloody Chapter.

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Nah that's just a wee bit of red thirst, every son of Sanguinius has that once in a while. You should watch for when he starts seeing the Imperial Palace. msn-wink.gif

His words were genuinely refreshing! And after all that is the only way to play with this new dex - clever but brutal use of a fast and aggressive force.

BA are the Bruce Lee of 40k now.

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Like @InquisitorBlack said, I see Mephy as Warlord, Priest/Corbulo as 2nd, and Dante as LoW being the 500 points base of most lists. That's so much utility, toolboxy, army buffing power in just those 3 models, all you need is delivery systems and some kind of support/first strike to set those guys up. It really is the Assault and Character codex now, despite Wolves getting 2HQ per slot. 

 

I'm really excited for this edition and codex. I have a big GT in March I got to paint a tactical squad for, but that's about it. I'm pretty sure I'll be running alternative detachments, between the Flesh Tearers or the Baal Strike Force, as the benefits really are worth the loss of Obj Sec. My usual strategy is "kill the troops" anyways, as they're usually easier kills than others.

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I have to ask tho bro's, what is "Alpha-Strike"? I see it mentioned a lot but really have no clue as I'm only just getting back into everything this edition!

The term "alpha-strike" is generally used to imply a powerful first hit in the game. The idea is take out (or seriously damage) one or more important enemy units before they have really had a chance to use them.

 

The easiest and most popular form of alpha strike is normally a drop pod containing a unit with several melta guns. Since some drop pods arrive on turn 1, this gives the Marine player the chance to take out a couple of vehicles (before the enemy has even moved if Marines go first). This gets the marine player "first blood" and also deprives the enemy of a unit before they have even had a chance to move or fire.

 

Some armies are more vulnerable to this tactic than others. Nids for example lack vehicles or any powerful units that can reaslistically be killed in one hit. Players expecting to face Monstrous creatures often field plasma or grav guns instead of melta as these are better at killing multi-wound creatures.

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BA are the Bruce Lee of 40k now.

Be blood my friend!

what is "Alpha-Strike"?

It makes reference to hitting very hard very fast. Drop pod units loaded on special weapons are a sample of an alpha-strike unit, because they can't be destroyed before they come, they land close to their target, and they're supposed to make a lot of damage. Drop pod armies rely heavily on this alpha-strike crippling their enemy, because later on they lose part of the punch. Most armies have a small alpha-strike element to destroy key enemy elements and draw attention from the rest of the army, that will become more effective on later turns. Or so I've read msn-wink.gif

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Like @InquisitorBlack said, I see Mephy as Warlord, Priest/Corbulo as 2nd, and Dante as LoW being the 500 points base of most lists. That's so much utility, toolboxy, army buffing power in just those 3 models, all you need is delivery systems and some kind of support/first strike to set those guys up. It really is the Assault and Character codex now, despite Wolves getting 2HQ per slot. 

 

I'm really excited for this edition and codex. I have a big GT in March I got to paint a tactical squad for, but that's about it. I'm pretty sure I'll be running alternative detachments, between the Flesh Tearers or the Baal Strike Force, as the benefits really are worth the loss of Obj Sec. My usual strategy is "kill the troops" anyways, as they're usually easier kills than others.

Mephy was warlord over Dante?

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yea, meph's warlord trait not great, as he'll already be a 'better' psycher than most opponents and dispelling on a 4+. A 3+ is totally unnecessary as no one will target him with spells.

 

I plan to run Meph with a lvl 2 libby (and an allied GK level 3) in a 7 drop pod alpha list. It's tempting to make the level 2 the warlord for a potentially better trait, but Meph protects 'slay the warlord' so much better.

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I spit my coffee all over my computer when I saw this...

 

 

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