knife&fork Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 My stuff is in the mail and will arrive tomorrow... can't wait! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 :o I am jealous!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I might build a new Aphael for my 2nd company. Even though I already have a model, he could use a new sword instead of the axe! Â Â Â Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Relic blade or the ba relic power sword for artificer biker captain? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Relic blade or the ba relic power sword for artificer biker captain? BA relic sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'd planned for my company once painted (its built) to be 3rd Co, but whilst I love Tycho, his new rules make me want to hurt people, so it'll now be a 2nd/3rd Company mix I think, allowing me to make both captains (I have a Tycho that I love) and use either or depending on mood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Anybody know what the BA tactical cards are? I can see challenges being more rewarding for us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'd planned for my company once painted (its built) to be 3rd Co, but whilst I love Tycho, his new rules make me want to hurt people, so it'll now be a 2nd/3rd Company mix I think, allowing me to make both captains (I have a Tycho that I love) and use either or depending on mood. Third company with two captains is what i'll do. Tycho and his successor post armageddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 i think someone said something about challenges, maybe even something related to losing a challenge? that was probably somneone wishlisting though  I'd planned for my company once painted (its built) to be 3rd Co, but whilst I love Tycho, his new rules make me want to hurt people, so it'll now be a 2nd/3rd Company mix I think, allowing me to make both captains (I have a Tycho that I love) and use either or depending on mood.Third company with two captains is what i'll do. Tycho and his successor post armageddon.that would make more sense! :P Machiavi. (is his name) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docrailgun Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So, is my math wrong? Dante 10 DC 3 x 5-man RAS in a pod with 2 meltas and 2 infernus pistols 4 x 10-man Scout squads with one power sword 1845 points  So - why the scouts, you ask? Well, as someone mentioned up-thread, scouts in the standard BA detachment would be S5 (Furious Charge) and I5. So, wouldn't 10 of them be 30 S5 I5 attacks on the charge, so even at WS3 that's an average of 15 S5 hits, right? Not so amazing against high-WS infantry but against WS3 troops they're scary. They have Scout and Infiltrate too. Drop the pods - pop tanks, 40 scouts + Dante's DC assault available targets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014   Wargear item Relic "Angels Wings' reduces DS scatter by D6, also means interceptors only get snap shots. It's 5 Meltabombs.If you had Dante in a list, a unit with this jump pack wouldn't scatter then, right?  It does not say anywhere that it stacks with Decent of Angels.  I don't think it has to. If both special rules reduce the scatter by 1d6, 0d6 remain.     The weapons are the same as the old Sanguinary Guard but the Axe is a free upgrade but has Unwieldy and Strength +1. Pretty much bussiness as usual.Axes previously were free as well, and standard mastercrafted two handed power axes. So it is exactly as before.   I'd argue that any AP2 weapon that isn't Unwieldy is already fairly special.That may have been the intention but most 6th and 7th Ed. codices get one of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Danse Macabre Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Anybody know what the BA tactical cards are? I can see challenges being more rewarding for us. Â I do mate and there are good ones for challenegs, I however don't want to type out a pile of cards so get anything you want to know as a certain thing or? Â Â Â Â Back to the AP 2 sword though, its still base strength, yes AP 2 is nice but when the others beef you up strength as well, I know we are stronger when charging but that does mean we need to always be on the attack charging forwards. Kinda reminds me of Crank watch an hour and a half of Jason Statham running around screaming and rubbing up against Chester Bennington. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The AP2 sword is obviously not as good as Dante's axe, but if you already have Dante and want your Librarian or Priest to be really good... Â The Dante/Relic jump pack will depend on how its worded. Â If both reduce scatter to 1d6, then they wouldn't stack. Â If the jump pack reduces scatter by 1d6, then they should stack. Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Question for the fellas with a codex in their hands:  Does the wording on the command squad still allow dual special weapons, such as flamer and melta gun on the same model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The AP2 sword is obviously not as good as Dante's axe, but if you already have Dante and want your Librarian or Priest to be really good... Â The Dante/Relic jump pack will depend on how its worded. If both reduce scatter to 1d6, then they wouldn't stack. If the jump pack reduces scatter by 1d6, then they should stack. Furious charge offsets base str. Ap2 is tons better than ap3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Danse Macabre Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The AP2 sword is obviously not as good as Dante's axe, but if you already have Dante and want your Librarian or Priest to be really good...  The Dante/Relic jump pack will depend on how its worded.  If both reduce scatter to 1d6, then they wouldn't stack.  If the jump pack reduces scatter by 1d6, then they should stack.    Just checked it as its new to me still, Dantes Decent of angels say, sactters 1D 6 less than normal. The Angels Wing just allows to reroll scatter and misshap results.  Your still going to go D6.       Question for the fellas with a codex in their hands:  Does the wording on the command squad still allow dual special weapons, such as flamer and melta gun on the same model?  Just checked, afraid not, can't have it all can we?        The AP2 sword is obviously not as good as Dante's axe, but if you already have Dante and want your Librarian or Priest to be really good...  The Dante/Relic jump pack will depend on how its worded. If both reduce scatter to 1d6, then they wouldn't stack. If the jump pack reduces scatter by 1d6, then they should stack. Furious charge offsets base str. Ap2 is tons better than ap3   It is allot better but still it means we have to be charging and lets face it, its going to be compared with the burning Blade. AP 2 strength 7 is much better but is 55 points more... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Â The AP2 sword is obviously not as good as Dante's axe, but if you already have Dante and want your Librarian or Priest to be really good... Â The Dante/Relic jump pack will depend on how its worded. If both reduce scatter to 1d6, then they wouldn't stack. If the jump pack reduces scatter by 1d6, then they should stack. Furious charge offsets base str. Ap2 is tons better than ap3 Â Yes it is. Â Dante's axe is AP2 already, and Strength +2 and not unwieldly, so clearly better than the AP2 sword. Â In my mind hte AP2 sword is probably the best weapon option for a non-named HQ and would be awesome for some named HQs but they can't take it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Chaplain comes to mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Danse Macabre Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Chaplain comes to mind. Â Chaplin Priest Combos Sir... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'm not sold on the priests. Â Will give them a try but I suspect there's better things to take in the HQ slots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Thinking about it, the captain is probably the best choice for the sword, due to higher initiative he already has. Â After that, Chaplain (I like the idea of the sword and Crozius combo depending on who you are fighting). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3886983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think I'm going to make a pseudo Tycho with the new rules since he took a nerf dart to the knee :D   Here's what I plan to do:  Captain +artificer armor, iron halo, ap2 sword (modeled as Dead Man's hand), and either a combi-melta with hellfire rounds (can we get those now?) or the new plasma pistol modeled as blood song  It might be expensive, but I miss good ole Tycho the Psycho.   As for inspirational BLOOD music I recommend:  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZF5m-vmDzM   It may sound familiar as your local Sanguinary priest sings about this song and blood through his veins when talking about the Primarch ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3887006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Captain with artificer on a bike with the sword, with some nice tooled up bikers and a sang priest is a hell of a line breaker unit. Point it at something and watch it die, and them take whatever comes back at them :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3887007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Some other interesting stuff I found in several threads: Priests now have two wounds and can take Relics. Corbulo is at W3 now :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3887017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 500pts in 3 characters? lol You think thats bad? 30k Mechanicum HQ's can clock in at 300+ points for ONE guy if you tool him up to the high heavens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/85/#findComment-3887018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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