Gorgoff Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 There modelled as tartaros.And rulewise they have Indomitus Armour, which is crucial unless a FAQ says otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4750835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 There modelled as tartaros.And rulewise they have Indomitus Armour, which is crucial unless a FAQ says otherwise. This is basically the same thing as going into the World Eaters Tactica and starting the free chain-axes argument. Can we not, instead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4750844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 There modelled as tartaros.And rulewise they have Indomitus Armour, which is crucial unless a FAQ says otherwise. This is basically the same thing as going into the World Eaters Tactica and starting the free chain-axes argument. Can we not, instead? Nah, it's the same as going to the Imperial Fist Tactica and tell them that Tartaros cannot take Storm Shields. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4750850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Definitely tartaros, the pauldrons are the give away. Oh, and lol. LtDan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4750894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Anyway I'm not starting the argument here. Not worth the time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4750900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Aye, we've had two sources say we can model them as Cataphractii too, it's all over the place. Hopefully 8th will just label them as Tartaros and be done with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4751226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 We will just have to make do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4752180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I've got a narrative campaign day on Sunday, which I'm very much looking forward to! Only issue is I can't used named characters, so this may be one of the first times I've not used Mortarion! I think I'll have a play with a few options, most likely a hardy Praetor - and then have a thing about what to do with the extra points. I think another Troops squad would probably be useful, and then it's whether I put them into the Spartan instead (or leave that at home). Options....! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4753293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I've got a narrative campaign day on Sunday, which I'm very much looking forward to! Only issue is I can't used named characters, so this may be one of the first times I've not used Mortarion! I think I'll have a play with a few options, most likely a hardy Praetor - and then have a thing about what to do with the extra points. I think another Troops squad would probably be useful, and then it's whether I put them into the Spartan instead (or leave that at home). Options....!Or a Typhon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4753446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Depends what else you have coming?. A deathshroud or gravewarden squad would be happy in the Spartan with a preator. Or as dg do....bring more guns!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4753497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I've got a narrative campaign day on Sunday, which I'm very much looking forward to! Only issue is I can't used named characters, so this may be one of the first times I've not used Mortarion! I think I'll have a play with a few options, most likely a hardy Praetor - and then have a thing about what to do with the extra points. I think another Troops squad would probably be useful, and then it's whether I put them into the Spartan instead (or leave that at home). Options....!Or a Typhon! I'm actually leaning towards a Glaive, mostly because I've never used it - and it'll be fun! I've got a third Troops choice included in the larger list I've initially planned, which I'm pleased with - as I felt at the last campaign weekend I didn't have enough to contest objectives, so this should add variety as well as tactical flexibility! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4756011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 That's why I like the reaping. As your heavy support squads count as troops so score Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4756576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 More guns always good. What sort of opposition are you expecting? Glaive does LoW rather nicely, Typhon does pretty much anything... I say take 20 heavy bolters and be done with it hah hah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4756842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Gorgoff - how did sunday go? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4761627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Gorgoff - how did sunday go?Lots of sweating on the way home, but nonetheless a pretty nice day. Why do you ask (or even know)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4762869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ahhh cos i typed the wrong name in and got lucky... glad it was good anyways! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4764109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ahhh cos i typed the wrong name in and got lucky... glad it was good anyways!Sure was. Couple of days of. Sitting in the sun, chill, grill- having a good time. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4764474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Nice! Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4765325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 It went very well all things considered, and a glorious overall win for the Traitors in the narrative campaign! I certainly enjoyed using the Glaive (although it died early in the first game), but it was good to use things I wouldn't normally. My list for the two 3k games I played was roughly: Praetor with the usual trimmings Siege Breaker Deathshroud Two Twenty-strong Tac squads with Apothecaries Fifteen strong Tac squad 3 Quads with Phosphex Two Sicarans Spartan Glaive First game was against Dark Angels, and the first time I've played them in the Heresy setting I believe. Those Heavy Bolters can hurt! Coming up against a Fellblade and needing to be the attacker to capture a teleport pad was very good fun: although being seized on meant I lost a good round of shooting! Despite losing lots of armour, I had four scoring units available to take the objective on that last turn - finished 7-2. Having taken the teleporter, I next faced the Salamanders to fight over a Manufactorum. With two central objectives to secure, and against a Land Raider squadron - I was concerned over them getting close! Cracking the transports and then bombarding those who exited the transports went well, and despite having plenty on the board, having both objectives contested when the game ended denied me a heavier victory (2-0, instead of 12-0 if I'd cleared both objectives). Final game was 1500pts of Zone Mortalis, using a heavily modified list featuring two Breacher squads, more Deathshroud, Grave Wardens and a Kheres Dread. Facing off against a Mechanicum and Talons alliance was tough, but helped by some random effects owing to the setting and going heavily after the objectives secured a victory (something like 4-2). A really good set of games as part of a great narrative campaign: a thoroughly enjoyable day! Very much looking forward to the next one already. Just some general thoughts: -Glaive needs some practice to use, and really needs some good positioning to make the most of the beam weaponry. I'd like to give it a few more games! -Sicarans are very good: benefit of fast and their weaponry layout (and some good rolling on my part!) makes them a good option. Given I would normally take Medusas in that slot, I'm wondering whether one or two of them in future gives enough variety for the cost, and I'd need to test further. -Quad Mortars with Phosphex are so effective against Legionaries, but I'm tempted by other shells too if I could find points to make them even more versatile. -Taking an extra Tactical Squad was definitely worthwhile - I would consider dropping them all down to that size (15) with Apothecaries. Looking forward to playing again soon! Caillum and Plaguecaster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4769746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Well done! Sounds like some good wins there. Heavy bolters - yes. I take a party size unit of 7 with an apothecary pretty much as standard. Always pays for itself. Quad mortars - S8 heavy4 shells a worth a shout. Backed up with phosphex ofc, crack the transport and burn the contents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4770438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Tactical blob - try 14+apothecary, it has a good amount of oomph and gives the same endurance as a 20 man blob without apothecary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4770442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Cheers for thoughts both: may be good just to increase the Mortars utility, although it does ramp up the cost. I think I will experiment with 15: I'm pleased to have added a Vex, and I think with giving the Sergeant a weapon it may be worthwhile - and give me a few points to invest elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4771204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I agree with the 15-man squad suggestion. Big enough to require focus fire from your opponent, but not too unwieldy on the tabletop. Also cheaper. :) Glaive is amazing, but it definitely requires some finesse. Perhaps deploying it far to one side with the 2 Sicarans (I'm not sure of your loadout on them, but having 4 heavy bolters is some serious dakka). They can move 12" and still be quite effective, meaning they can flank your Glaive and offer some protection. Very impressed with your list - it is the right balance of competitive (phosphex Quad Launchers, Spartan) and fluffy (Tactical Blobs, only 1 unit of Quad Launchers). Nice! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4771409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 15 man squads I always play. Gives them a nice balance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4771648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Are Heavy Bolter squads that good? I mean, we aren't DA Acid shells?! Or is it just weight of dice and the fact they sit back and score? ...Plus look fly as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/40/#findComment-4772131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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