disease Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 We are discussing the Moritat with phase walker.... but its not really uniquely death guard is it? Lets talk about: What can we do with the Barbarian Thurible? How can we stack rad grenades, destoyer missiles and the thurible for maximum devastation (and ease of killing Thanatars and castelax). How can we stack Phosphex from medusas and lightnings with our characters and Mortarion? Any unique synergy when we combine our abilities with Mechanicum / Solar/ Knights/ Cults or even other legions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4172620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I call this unit... The "What in the emperors name is that?" Preator: Iron halo, nanyte blaster, Barbarian thurible, rad nades, power axe 9 Heavy support guys with: Shredding heavy flamers and a transport of your choice. Enjoy, you just got 9 templates that hit automatically, re-roll wounds, wound on a 3+ and when charged, 9D3 S5 hits that re-roll to wound while the enemy unit gets -2 to their thoughness Oh and, nanyte blaster.. Because.. Nanananananananyte blaster Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4173031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 It actually wounds on 2s if the thurible is in range ;) The problem with a unit like that is that it has to get REALLY close to do work. it's not very durable, thus is likely to give up first blood and slay the warlord in one fell swoop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4178179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hence the -2 toughness. The thing I like about the blaster is that it can be overwatched. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4179584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 That would be mental overwatch.... Potentially deadly for both sides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hence the -2 toughness. The thing I like about the blaster is that it can be overwatched. Isn't it a template? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hence the -2 toughness. The thing I like about the blaster is that it can be overwatched. Isn't it a template? Direct fire that then has a 50/50 chance to blob. Talking about the nanyte blaster... Can it blob on a multiwound model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hence the -2 toughness. The thing I like about the blaster is that it can be overwatched. Isn't it a template?Direct fire that then has a 50/50 chance to blob. Talking about the nanyte blaster... Can it blob on a multiwound model? Id need to check the wording but I think its only if the model dies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hence the -2 toughness. The thing I like about the blaster is that it can be overwatched. Isn't it a template?Direct fire that then has a 50/50 chance to blob. Talking about the nanyte blaster... Can it blob on a multiwound model? Id need to check the wording but I think its only if the model dies? Got home and checked (trying to theoryhammer at work never ends well) and yes the model has to die. Bummer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think that makes it a bit more Reasonable. The Same Model Triggering the Grey Goo Blast multiple times during the same shooting phase would make no real sense since its Nanomachines breaking you down into your composant materials and self-replicating before moving onto the next target :p It would also make it Hilariously OP (as if it wasn't already) vs Multi-Wound Squads like, say, Firedrakes, Red Butchers, GK Paladins, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Read through some of this thread. The conclusion y'all have come to is Flamers are cool and Nanyte Blaster is OP. Got it. How the hell do you run the Reaping? Landrick and Sheesh Mode 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 You don't unless it's like 3k+. You can't take advantage of the only benefit in smaller games. Even then it's how much you can fill your heavy slots and then get out of HS squads compared to what your opponent can take to remove mass power armour. Imo it's very hard to be points efficient with it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think there could be something good with Prometheum relay pipes, vets/ support squads and crisis Morturg. Need to further develop this though, any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4180958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Really depends on points still. 2000 is completely unviable for making a combo of that size Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4181130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Sorry if it has been discussed but: Pride of the legion. Does it work for DG? It feels very fluffy with all the DG being expected to fight with everything they can in all roles (Vets) and use of heavy unrelenting infantry (Termies). Between HQ Deathshroud, Troop Cataprachii and heavy support Grave wardens (that I LOVE btw) we get a lot of terms. How would you use them? Artillery support? Transports? Deep strike? What kind of Hqs? Becoming heavily invested in the DG (at least until I see where BA go in the Heresy) and with the plastic box reportedly perfect for a pride force, I'm interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 The shooting game of DG termies is very weak in all aspects. You will need to complement it with strong ranged support that can work independently while your forces creep forward. The main need would naturally be anti tank weaponry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The shooting game of DG termies is very weak in all aspects. You will need to complement it with strong ranged support that can work independently while your forces creep forward. The main need would naturally be anti tank weaponry. Podding Grav Dreadnoughts/Grav Rapiers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Want to try to avoid the drop pod route if possible. I have them for my BA and before any games with them I know I don't want to buy more :P let alone the FW ones. I'd probably go for something like Medusas or Vindicators as support. Maybe laser destroyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Laser destroyer vindicators are pretty brutal. Predator squadrons bring lots of fire power at decent price as well. Edited October 9, 2015 by Wolf_Pack Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Aye, I've been picking up old style tanks where I can - May well save a few of them for the DG... How about Mortarion, he certainly seems like one of the stronger Primarchs! How is best to use him? His buffs are a mixed bag though: The poisoned 4+ on Frag though seems a little useless as most frag wounds marines on 4+ anyway... And I guess High T ad mech you're better off using Krak missiles? But Stubborn with our Immunity to fear is AWESOME. Edited October 9, 2015 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 His mobility is a nice feature, but his output is limited. Not as tough as you would think either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4192772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Other Primarchs and anything Contemptor or above will likely eat him. He's nice against AdMech though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4193484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Other Primarchs and anything Contemptor or above will likely eat him. He's nice against AdMech though. Yeah, you're probably right. It's a shame he's unwieldy for seemingly no reason. He should only be Unwieldy with the Sweep attacks IMO. He's insane at destroying any legion terms and such though IMO. Plus if you don't warp he has some nice shooting potential. ALSO, really excited to see how we might utilize the new RoW when they come, including our own new unique one. Not long to wait :) Edited October 10, 2015 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4193597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Okay so I've ended up buying Morty, some Grave Wardens, 3 Deathshroud and some basic dudes (only 5 though). I really love rad weapons, really one of the reasons I want to play the DG. How should I progress? Of note is that I will probably buy the Heresy starter set which will give me more Tacs/ vets and terminators, so perhaps pride? While I'm not 100% set on the DG yet (I'm wary that they are just Gunna become 30k plague Marines which I don't want) I love these models so maybe I can get use of them before I change my mind on which Legion I'm doing. Edited October 15, 2015 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4197499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Definitely pride with the setup you have. Bring transports as delivery systems and get stuck in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/5/#findComment-4197765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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