Zebulon Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Would it be too late to submit a cheeky vow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4109921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 I am sorry to say that it is, brother, unless you to joined the ETL during May. Unfortunately, the contest shuts it's doors to new entrants after the first month. You, could, in theory, do an 'out-of-competition' vow, but that will not count towards any final totals at the end of the ETL. The best person to ask about this would be Captain Semper, the event organiser. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4109950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I am sorry to say that it is, brother, unless you to joined the ETL during May. Unfortunately, the contest shuts it's doors to new entrants after the first month. You, could, in theory, do an 'out-of-competition' vow, but that will not count towards any final totals at the end of the ETL. The best person to ask about this would be Captain Semper, the event organiser. Ah, that is a shame. Â The path to heresy is paved with good intentions though, I am sure. Â I may have a word with the good Cap'n as you suggest! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4109982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 I hope you will be allowed and encouraged to make an out-of-contest vow, and that we'll see you back to tell us of it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4109989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Hello again brethren. Â I have conversed with the Captain, who was encouraging but who told me any OOC ETL vow had to be made through the Strategium, as the Liber is not officially part of the ETL. Â I would ask what you guys are doing in that case... But I suppose I will fill out form C7806-ZB32 and take my place in the adjacent queue for "administratum disputates" *whistle* Edited July 3, 2015 by Polemarch Julius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4111777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well, what we're doing is making a fun little 'sidebet' if you will - although we all have vows made in the relevant strategiums, we're chalking up our vows that are made here too to see how the Liber would fare if it actually had legitimate status in the competition. Incidentally, we're not doing terribly so far - with the points we've go so far, I believe we are doing better than a handful of the smaller subforums out there, and this is purely voluntary. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4111882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Hello Liberites.  Just popped by to show you my entry, you are welcome to share the whole 0 pts:    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/Dragonlover63/IMG_0258.jpg  http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/Dragonlover63/IMG_0259.jpg  http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/Dragonlover63/IMG_0260.jpg  http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/Dragonlover63/IMG_0261.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4111976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Surely he's worth 14? :P Great to see him popping up, don't see this classic all that much these days :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4111986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Well, what we're doing is making a fun little 'sidebet' if you will - although we all have vows made in the relevant strategiums, we're chalking up our vows that are made here too to see how the Liber would fare if it actually had legitimate status in the competition. Incidentally, we're not doing terribly so far - with the points we've go so far, I believe we are doing better than a handful of the smaller subforums out there, and this is purely voluntary. :) Hmmm... Â So essentially there is nothing to stop me saying: Â "I, Polemarch Julius, being of reasonably sound mind and body, and pure of heart, vow (as though it were a real vow) to paint to the best of my limited ability, the following items: 1) Imperial Knight (not decided which type/loadout yet) 2) A five man Skitarii Rangers squad (playing in my mind as a group of Sacristans) And if I should fail to do so, I expect nothing less than to be flayed and my hide sent to Slaanesh in order for his/her use as a moist towelette after a particularly spicy feast of enchiladas!" Â (Or however the vow should actually read!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4112620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Technically it should also be done in a relevant strategium but... meh. It's an out-of-contest vow. I doubt it'll be controversial to do it here. You got the points value for that vow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4112958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Technically it should also be done in a relevant strategium but... meh. It's an out-of-contest vow. I doubt it'll be controversial to do it here. You got the points value for that vow? @Olis - Well if he does it here and doesn't vow it in another forum, either:  1) He doesn't get a Oath of Moment, and  2) As he hasn't vowed it, he doesn't have to finish before 01 Aug 15 and doesn't get Oathbreaker! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4112989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Ok... I will find the AdMech Strategium area, repost in proper format and look up the points value (I think it's circa 600 but I am more interested in the modelling, painting and fluff sides of the hobby than I am in the gaming to be honest!) Â Thanks for your help, my long-time lurking here hasn't extended to getting a grip on the procedures. I think my last actual posts before these recent ones was an IA back in 2011 for my "Storm Gauntlets" which got a bit of a pasting from some dude called "Voi Shet Magir" :D :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks for your help, my long-time lurking here hasn't extended to getting a grip on the procedures. I think my last actual posts before these recent ones was an IA back in 2011 for my "Storm Gauntlets" which got a bit of a pasting from some dude called "Voi Shet Magir" Funnily enough, I do believe that particular Frater has since been shown the airlock. Of course, way back in 2011, although I was just a Frater too, it is possible I may have seen your DIY and commented on it. Perhaps you'd like to take a second crack at a DIY Chapter? Perhaps something completely new? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I just took a look at that IA of yours, Julius. It does need some work, but it is a good start. I would definitely recommend you give it another shot. Sometimes criticism can be harsh, but the goal here on the B&C is that it be constructive. It is given with the intent of helping you improve, whether it is your painting, your gaming or your writing. Â The criticism you received did not appear to me to be given with that intent, but as Olis stated, that individual is gone, and for pretty much that very behavior. Â Of course, if you would like to start with something fresh, such as perhaps a Forge World/Knight House article, that'd be cool too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Cheers guys :) Â In the fullness of time I would like to write up IA's for all of my several DIY chapters (see sig below!) though to be honest, I note some of the same themes drifting into each chapter (I'm particularly guilty of the "No, but these guys are humanitarian killing machines" schtick. Â Also, because (like many of the GW writers it would seem) I have a bit of a love for history and literature, I do struggle not to self-consciously point out the fascinating IRL history behind my far-future warriors - which was I suppose one of the fair points made by the late VSM. Â Anyway, I will definitely spend a little time writing stuff, when I find the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulJam Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Of course, if you would like to start with something fresh, such as perhaps a Forge World/Knight House article, that'd be cool too. and there's the liber challenges (as per your signature ConnEremon) which can be useful putting together initial ideas or viewing other people's stuff. Â since i'm here... 120 more liber points... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 ...though to be honest, I note some of the same themes drifting into each chapter (I'm particularly guilty of the "No, but these guys are humanitarian killing machines" schtick. Â Then I humbly suggest, at some point, to deliberately make an exercise of doing the opposite. Don't just make them bad guys, but make them bad guys that the Imperium needs. This, to some degree, is what I have done (or to be more accurate, intend to do) with my Conflagrators. They don't play well with others, and that is an understatement. ;)Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 That's more fun too. It's easy to have a monster on the other side, but when they're your monsters you can get very creative and work with the details of 40k lore :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4113320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Another vow for the liber, my fourth and final one for ETL IV. Also my highest vow count yet Sadly a busy day and lack of sunlight meant some terrible pictures when I took them (even by my standards) but I plan to get better ones later which I will put into the strategium. 110pts can be added to the tally! Lord Commissar Phileas Hidden Content The Reclamation of Diva would have been a footnote defeat in Arukani history were it not for the actions of one man. Due to a catalogue of errors a contingent of Arukani Infantry were sent to the fringe system of Diva to secure it from the predations of Tau expansionism years too late. Furthermore tactical command erroneously logged the nature of the system, for it was an archipelago world of tropical seas for which the Arukani, long disliking the water, were ill equipped for.So did the Arukani forces attempt an assault on a system they were hopelessly equipped to deal with. Outnumbered, outgunned and out of their element they nevertheless proceeded with orders despite regimental command being fully in knowledge of the expected result. The landing was disastrous with heavy casualties but against all odds a successful secure zone was captured thanks to the complete surprise the xenos were taken by, but it was a short lived victory. Xenos forces rallied before long and regimental command was lost; their last order being "death before dishonour" and it fell to the ageing Lord Commissar Phileas to assume command.It was supposed to be a simple last mission before retirement, but the well liked (for a commissar) Phileas wasn't going to go down without a fight. By the Emperor's providence he was from a tempestuous sea world, and knew raging waters like the back of his hand. Post campaign analysis would report that the successful landing itself was in no small part due to his wise advice, and he took his knowledge and applied it immediately as soon as he took command. His first order would perhaps not be expected from a commissar, but Phileas was an experienced soldier and knew that discretion was sometimes the better part of valour. History would prove it the correct course of action; Arukani soldiers instantly obeyed and dispersed for guerilla warfare.For over three years the Arukani expedition survivors harassed and impeded the Tau forces. Philea's matchless expertise and experience was more than enough, thanks to the Arukani's obedient nature they didn't hesitate or question any orders given - even if they didn't understand quite the reasons behind the decisions. In time Philea's silent arrival from the waters to sow death and destruction before slinking back into the night gave the xenos forces to name him out of fear and respect. Naturally Phileas immediately banned it from use as it was xenos in origin but the Arukani adapted it to their own tongue as "the fish warrior".While respected as a warrior and leader the commissar had always stood apart from direct command, working with the command structure rather than with the soldiery itself. This had to change after assuming direct control and while he reforged the Arukani into a merciless waterborne guerilla force it is also true that the Arukani influenced him in turn. His hereditary blade "Duskgleam" was all but ceremonial previously but in the jungles of Diva he discovered its true potential as a duelling blade, and he even took to claiming heads as the Arukani did. He built up a substantial collection of xenos officer heads that impressed even the most disagreeable Arukani.When the mistake was realised the Imperium sent a new expedition to capture Diva, only to find the xenos forces had abandoned the system due to the merciless attrition they were suffering outstripping the gain from holding it. The new invasion force arrived to see a world bordering on a fortress one, occupied with a veteran guerilla force eager for the Tau to attempt to retake the planet. High command was ecstatic that not only had Diva been held as Imperial territory as ordered but the Arukani finally had a force with the knowledge of water warfare. Philea's retirement was postponed, and he was assigned to lead the new water force and train more soldiers in their new way of war. The history records neglect to mention how he felt about this, but it is assumed that he still leads the "Arukani Karp" to war wherever their expertise is needed most. Bonus celebratory piece! Hidden Content "Mercy?" Sergeant Kuruso snarled incredulously, "What do you know of the word, xeno? Did you show mercy to the people of this planet when you invaded?"A few of the soldiers nodded grimly, having once been enslaved but rescued and recruited by the Arukani forces. A xenos voice called out over their inferior vox system, once more extolling the Imperial soldiers to lay down their arms and be treated with honour. A small chorus of chuckling emanated from their command bunker - the squad inside found it amusing to leave on."You know nothing, alien," Kuruso resumed once the accented voice had stopped booming, "for if you did you would know that this is mercy. Should the Lord Commissar catch you your fate would be far worse than a lasgun to the head."A few more cracks of lasgun fire sounded from the other side of the base, signalling more executions. Kuruso watched the xeno with an unblinking gaze, daring him to speak once more or better yet attempt to fight or escape. A brief bit of commotion from the bunker saw Lieutenant Asagari emerge, glancing up briefly he saw her give a quick signal; mission accomplished, no need for captives. A smile crept to his lips as he raised his laspistol.Another crack of a lasgun before silence once more. As the Imperials vanished into the waters the vox network sprang to life once more but there was no laughing this time. Another xenos outpost silenced, another victory for the Lord Commissar's Karp Good luck to anyone with vows remaining Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4121705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Another 170 points for the Liber! "On Macragge they train their youths to fight other men, and by doing so make soldiers. On Talhon we teach our young how to slay monsters, and by doing so we create heroes." - Captain Ambrose, White Hawks 1st Company -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Armed with bolters, chainswords, and sundry other (less important) fancy gadgets, Squad Lowen of the White Hawks 1st Company is ready for war! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4126834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Another one for the Liber, the total must be looking quite respectable by now? :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4126838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The ETL is coming to a close with just a couple of days - any more Liber entries to be made? The strategiums are all busy with activity as vows are completed, surely there must be some DIYers in there... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4132510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Whoops, nearly forgot about this! Finished my vow (won't bother posting pics again here but they're in the C:SM Strategium) so that's another 280pts for the Liber! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4132532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Why do I leave everything to the last minute? I've got just over 48 hours to get 30 minis painted to a tabletop standard that doesn't look like a fridge picture. King of cram, now up to bat. At least I'm halfway happy with how Polux is going so far (despite not having a flesh colour to work with). :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4132562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Gonna give him a crimson fist? Been thinking the fist on his shield would look good in red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306217-etl-iv-whats-that-noise/page/5/#findComment-4132563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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