Remus Ventanus. Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Thanks relict:) I'm making a big order soon so I'll be sure to get some of that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4185951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hey guys a quick lore question: was the shadowsword a legion vehicle or army vehicle? I'm thinking of getting one but only if ican paint it in the ULteamarines scheme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Army.darn, ok thanks man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 There is an EC shadowsword in one of the books. Any super heavy tank can be taken as a lord of war and given a legion crew upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 There is an EC shadowsword in one of the books. Any super heavy tank can be taken as a lord of war and given a legion crew upgrade.interesting! 30k seems to have so many more vehicles to offer and I s sometimes hard to figure out what is and isn't legion. Glad to know most are legion:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Technically everything in 30k is legion, since all mortal forces are under legion command. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4187676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I found a picture of some of my dudes with stirland mud on their feet http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/bulimic_possum/game%20vs%20cleary/IMG_1269.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys ! A quick lore question regarding Guilliman and the Ultramarines in general. In terms of personnality, do you think they were more trying to understand the conditions of the engagement for what they were and what they could become, then process them through a very strict logical process. Or trying to shape their Legion based on logical organizational patterns and empirical experiences ? I've had an interesting debate with a friend about it and would love to see your thoughts on that ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys ! A quick lore question regarding Guilliman and the Ultramarines in general. In terms of personnality, do you think they were more trying to understand the conditions of the engagement for what they were and what they could become, then process them through a very strict logical process. Or trying to shape their Legion based on logical organizational patterns and empirical experiences ? I've had an interesting debate with a friend about it and would love to see your thoughts on that ! i personally believe it's a mix of both. They use extensive theoretical and practicals, allowing each marine to asses the situation and act accordingly.this allowed seamless tactical integration. We know the ultramarines had no specialist units, instead wanting each chapter to be able to handle any engagement thrown at them. I found a picture of some of my dudes with stirland mud on their feet http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/bulimic_possum/game%20vs%20cleary/IMG_1269.jpg oh I love that! Will pick some up with my next FW oraer which should be soon....thinking of getting the praetor upgrades to go with the Hh plastics, transfer abnet, Mk 4 command set for now. Am waiting until the ultras get their own contemptor variant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Interesting point ! So, their philosophy was to prioritize understand the true nature of warfare and engagements in general, then theorizing a structure and a course of action. Rather than prioritize organizing their environment for efficiency in a tangible results-driven approach. Guilliman does feel more like a visionnary than a simple commander :D And I had a hobby question regarding armour patterns : Are squads usually wearing the same armour type, or are they mixed and matched ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I would say that it depends on the army builder. Reason being is, when do you want the army represented and what is its background? For example, if its before the Heresy, I'd say uniform armor marks, although an undersupplied Expedition Fleet that has been on continious campaign might be pretty good justification for mixed armor. But if its during the Heresy, I'd definitely lean towards mixed patterns since supplies would be on a "grab em when you can" basis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Interesting point ! So, their philosophy was to prioritize understand the true nature of warfare and engagements in general, then theorizing a structure and a course of action. Rather than prioritize organizing their environment for efficiency in a tangible results-driven approach. Guilliman does feel more like a visionnary than a simple commander And I had a hobby question regarding armour patterns : Are squads usually wearing the same armour type, or are they mixed and matched ? What im doing with my calth era army, is im going to have alot of praetor armor, as it was becoming standard issue for the ultramarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys, im a tad nervous to post these as ive seen some amazing work by alot of you, but here it goes anyways... Each marine is about 75% done. The boltguns and legs still need to be finished, and a few touchups here and there. Also, very sorry about the :cussty quality of the picture. I cant seem to be able to take a good one! http://whec-assets-live.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/07/50049_1f9711a0d9007fd4903670d840e730fb.jpg As a World Eater, I really like these Ultramarines. Especially the decapitated one on the right. I shall call him steve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys, im a tad nervous to post these as ive seen some amazing work by alot of you, but here it goes anyways... Each marine is about 75% done. The boltguns and legs still need to be finished, and a few touchups here and there. Also, very sorry about the :cussty quality of the picture. I cant seem to be able to take a good one! http://whec-assets-live.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/07/50049_1f9711a0d9007fd4903670d840e730fb.jpg As a World Eater, I really like these Ultramarines. Especially the decapitated one on the right. I shall call him steve. Hey thanks, means alot. Still trying to find a way to take better pictures, as mine look like they have been taken with a potato. I have seen your army(brilliant btw!) and your pictures are clear and show all the detail. Any tips? More natural light perhaps. And his name is Tom! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys, im a tad nervous to post these as ive seen some amazing work by alot of you, but here it goes anyways... Each marine is about 75% done. The boltguns and legs still need to be finished, and a few touchups here and there. Also, very sorry about the :cussty quality of the picture. I cant seem to be able to take a good one! http://whec-assets-live.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/07/50049_1f9711a0d9007fd4903670d840e730fb.jpg As a World Eater, I really like these Ultramarines. Especially the decapitated one on the right. I shall call him steve. Hey thanks, means alot. Still trying to find a way to take better pictures, as mine look like they have been taken with a potato. I have seen your army(brilliant btw!) and your pictures are clear and show all the detail. Any tips? More natural light perhaps. And his name is Tom! A few tips. We can clearly see that your monitor is on. A light source in the backdrop (even not directly in front) will cause the picture to be out of focus - the white stuff at the top of the picture is a indication of this. The light spot on the desk also interferes with that. I take my pictures during the day to have a bit of natural light diffuse into the room. Second, you need to have a light source from above, preferably a "white light", not those annoying tinged yellowish light bulbs, they taint the colours of the miniatures. A good backdrop is important, so is the surface on what your models will stand. It cannot be a glossy surfacy or backdrop (like the plain desk you have. I use my cutting board. And it must contrast the models, and not be the same, lighter colours are best for this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey guys, im a tad nervous to post these as ive seen some amazing work by alot of you, but here it goes anyways... Each marine is about 75% done. The boltguns and legs still need to be finished, and a few touchups here and there. Also, very sorry about the :cussty quality of the picture. I cant seem to be able to take a good one! http://whec-assets-live.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/07/50049_1f9711a0d9007fd4903670d840e730fb.jpg As a World Eater, I really like these Ultramarines. Especially the decapitated one on the right. I shall call him steve. Hey thanks, means alot. Still trying to find a way to take better pictures, as mine look like they have been taken with a potato. I have seen your army(brilliant btw!) and your pictures are clear and show all the detail. Any tips? More natural light perhaps. And his name is Tom! A few tips. We can clearly see that your monitor is on. A light source in the backdrop (even not directly in front) will cause the picture to be out of focus - the white stuff at the top of the picture is a indication of this. The light spot on the desk also interferes with that. I take my pictures during the day to have a bit of natural light diffuse into the room. Second, you need to have a light source from above, preferably a "white light", not those annoying tinged yellowish light bulbs, they taint the colours of the miniatures. A good backdrop is important, so is the surface on what your models will stand. It cannot be a glossy surfacy or backdrop (like the plain desk you have. I use my cutting board. And it must contrast the models, and not be the same, lighter colours are best for this Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 In general, what do you guys think about the Logos Lectora ? It seems good when you have no unit that might Infiltrate or Deep Strike, but isn't it a bit limiting for the Ultramarines ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4189946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 In general, what do you guys think about the Logos Lectora ? It seems good when you have no unit that might Infiltrate or Deep Strike, but isn't it a bit limiting for the Ultramarines ? I really like them, and will have a unut of ten in my force with a praetor. Pros: deep strike, more survivable than assault marines with 2+ save, more damage with 2 rounds of shooting that turn + plasma pistols/hand flamers, all have power swords (in a game where most opponents are marines, this seems very very good), opportunity for really great looking models. Cons: still have a turn stood in the open, 2+ save is still quite easy to get through, quite expensive. As a deep strike assault unit, they are probably one of the best. But are those units objectively good/ useful in your force? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4190008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I really like your point about the Locutarus Storm Squads, but I was talking about the Rite of War ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4190022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I really like your point about the Locutarus Storm Squads, but I was talking about the Rite of War ^^ Whoops, I mean, Just as Planned.... Yeh so the right of war. I don't really care for it. If your list is basically following it already then you might as well use it. But I don't think it's worth creating a list around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4190037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I really like your point about the Locutarus Storm Squads, but I was talking about the Rite of War ^^ Whoops, I mean, Just as Planned.... Yeh so the right of war. I don't really care for it. If your list is basically following it already then you might as well use it. But I don't think it's worth creating a list around it. Glad to see that we share that idea on that too :D Yeah, it seems that this Rite of War is great for Tactical heavy forces (basic squad + support squads) along with a few Dreadnoughts spread out here and there. But like you said, I feel that the Ultramarines can make about any Rite of War work and work well, as long as the force is coherent with units that are actually able to support one another. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4190043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Ordered the praetorian upgrade set and breacher marines. They should arrive when the plastic boxset is out. I am VERY excited Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4210109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Hey guys quick fluff question. I have breachers on the way and i want to know how i could include them, fluff wise, into my ground force that is based on calth. Would there be shield units on calth during the betrayel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4216909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 On Calth? Somewhere, maybe. In orbit? More than likely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307780-the-xiii-legion-ultramarines/page/10/#findComment-4216912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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