bluntblade Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) First Captain AntonidasFirst Captain of the Scions Hospitalier, Master of the Phantoms, the Spectre of Anatolia Earning his spurs in the Solar Conquests, Antonidas displayed an exceptional gift for bladework and command early on, and rose swiftly to high rank within the Stygian Phantoms. Troubled by the hubris that so often infected his brothers, he earned his rank as much for his level head as skill, saving his warriors from near disaster on multiple occasions. His response was to embark on a programme of reform, although he found that many of his captains dragged their feet, resenting his command. The discovery of Pionus, therefore, would prove a positive boon to the Legion Master. Antonidas served as First Captain of the Scions Hospitalier ever since the reunion with the primarch, during which time his reputation as a fearsome warrior has only grown. Grim and taciturn to all but his closest brothers, he adapted the finesse of the Stygian Phantoms to fit the surgical ways of the new XIXth Legion, and performed both stealth missions and rapid attacks with lethal precision. Hoarfrost A relic blade of unknown origin, Hoarfrost was wielded by Antonidas before his days as Legion Master. Recovered on Natnuat Prime, the materials used in its construction have defied classification by even the most knowledgeable Adepts. It resembles a shard of the void itself, and emanates a lethal chill rather than the heat of a typical power weapon. Spectre of Anatolia Antonidas exemplified the methods of the Phantoms, leading his warriors unseen even in the havoc of battle. Many an enemy of the Imperium found their death at his hands, to their great surprise as the First Captain broke cover and made a killing charge. ----- Phantom Assault SquadWhile Pionus and Antonidas dispensed with what they saw as the wasteful flamboyance of the Stygian Phantoms, they also perceived a way in which the “old” XIXth’s vaunted prowess could be married to the culture of surgical precision and efficiency fostered by the primarch. Thus, those Terran legionaries who struggled to find a place within the Scions were formed into a new body of assault marines. Clad in black pearl plate, they took their place among the elite of the remade Legion.The new Phantoms first saw action against the abhuman Malacos and swiftly earned a reputation both for clandestine operations and lightning assaults. As such they could be found both in the vanguard, and far behind enemy lines. Unlike almost all their counterparts, the Phantoms also applied their assault skills to the underwater theatres where the Scions excelled, with Obscura-pattern jump packs designed to operate beneath the waves and in the void. These served the Scions well on many campaigns against waterborne foes, especially the vile Qarith. ----- Depthstrider Terminators Finding that breacher squads were of limited use in undersea actions, Pionus compensated by developing specialised heavy units. Initially clad in modified Mk II armour, it was with the advent of Terminator plate that the Depthstriders truly came into being. XIXth Legion artificers soon developed the Ceta variant of Cataphractii plate, streamlining the bulky suits and augmenting their systems to better function underwater. Completing their panoply of war with a lethal array of weapons, the Depthstriders spearheaded XIXth Legion assaults in hundreds of theatres, and served as Pionus’ retainers on and off the battlefield. Equipped with power weapons and volkite culverins and calivers, the Depthstriders relied on the strength of their armour to protect them whilst breaking open enemy positions. Their leaders, known as Divemasters, were gifted waveblades as a sign of their rank, such was the prestige of this formation. While Phantoms were simply promoted out of the Legion's assault squads, warriors who wished the join the Depthstriders must hunt and slay one of the monstrous serpents which infest the depths of Iona as a formal rite of admission. Edited May 28, 2019 by bluntblade Slips 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4424005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 OK, so here are Pionus' ambitions for humanity as described by Slips. This is partly why the Scions speak against the Warbringers at the Vizhenko Prosecution, as he feels that a) decades, if not centuries of careful study are needed to ensure that these benefits are available to all and b) Kozja's desire to create a ruling class of Astartes and enhanced humans goes against this dream. The vast majority is bio-artificing. He sees the Emperors work in the Astartes Gene-Seed and doesn't even want to try to mess with it on a purely genetic level. That isn't to say that he's not on the lookout for signs of Degradation or Mutation. Those he actively tries to fix to maintain near 100% Gene-Seed Purity. HOWEVER, with regards to the normal human population, he's essentially trying to make them Astartes-Lite. Not so much the Size and Pure Kill potential but more the Hazardous Environment Survivability Aspects of the Astartes he tries to get into the human genome. To him, doing so would make it easier for humanity to populate as many worlds as possible since surviving adverse conditions would be easier. What he's not looking to do is turn the Imperium of Man into the Imperium of Astartes. Slips and Hesh Kadesh 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4444105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Alright, I've reached the first roadblock in the Scions chapter. The general history chapter needs one more section about the Scions reacting to the Emperor's retirement, the Warmaster appointment, and the events leading up to the Insurrection. Then I can move into the Legion Organization chapter, which seems only partially done, correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4460706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Legion Organisation is pretty much done, I just havent posted it here for whaterver reason. Ill get on the missing bits hah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4460715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 good progress again! Just post that last bit eh ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4460828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Legion Command Structure: Pionus, ever the pragmatic man, saw no reason to change much of the Stygian Phantoms Legion Structure and organization. The changes that he were put in place during the transition period from Stygian Phantoms to Scions Hospitalier alongside the training and recruitment drive of the Ionian population and the most important of those were the formation of the Deka, the restructuring of the Legion into ten Brotherhoods (Chapters) and instating Theater Commanders who operated at the battalion level. The First and most obvious of these changes, the restructuring of the Legion into ten Brotherhoods. The main reason behind this was he wanted his legion to be easily and cleanly divisible into ten equal and self-sufficient parts. In turn, each would be led by one member of the Deka who ultimately answered to him. However, this meant that each Captain of the Deka now had the burden of assuming command over tens of thousands of marines. In an effort to facilitate the delegation of duties and responsibilities, he put in place the next change: Theater Commanders. Theater Commander was not a permanently assigned position within the Legion. Instead, these were temporary promotions carried out by vote amongst all the gathered captains of a given Combat Theater with overall command of the operation being given to the one deemed the most experienced in dealing with any given foe they would face regardless of the Captain in question's overall seniority within the Legion. This would give rise to a prominent command role for specialists who would otherwise not see such levels of command given to them as well as test the mettle of Junior Officers as their Seniors groomed them. The last is Pionus' formation of the Deka. A council primarily formed by the ten Captains in charge of the Brotherhoods but also included a Triumvirate of the most senior Forge Lords present within the Legion as well as Inna Santor and the Legions Chief Apothecary who served as her and Pionus' personal aid. The main idea behind this was to facilitate the communication between the various arms of the Legion while also facilitating the task of leading a Legion. It is notable, however, that within the overall command structure of the Legion, the presence of any Librarian Organization. While their presence within the Legion has been observed, no mention has been made as to why they lack clear representation within the Legion. It is theorized that they stood apart from standard Legion Organization much like the Phantom and Depthstrider cohorts. Legion Hierarchy: The Primarch, Pionus Santor | The Deka: Captains of the 1st to 10th Brotherhood Forge Lord Triumvirate Masters of the Apothecarion | Brotherhood (1-10) (15000 to 17000 Marines) | Senior Captains | Theater Commanders | Battalion (1-17) (1000 Marines) | Line Captains | Company (2-4) (100-500 Marines) | Sergeants | Squads Edited August 21, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Looks good but I would ask if you could change the name from brotherhood so as to avoid confusion with CL brotherhoods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 I guess so. I would have lliked to avoid any similarities but I didnt see the CLs ranks and stuff in the doc that was posted a while back when I made them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Don't the Godslayers also have Brotherhoods, though? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I see no need change it. Multiple canon legions use chapters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Don't the Godslayers also have Brotherhoods, though?If they do then I see no reason that slips should change it as I thought the Scions were the only ones who also used brotherhoods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 No, it's fine. I'm actually amused by how many 'brotherhoods' we have among our legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 No, it's fine. I'm actually amused by how many 'brotherhoods' we have among our legions.I think it's because everyone wanted to use something other than chapter/company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 A fair goal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Legion Organisation is pretty much done, I just havent posted it here for whaterver reason. Ill get on the missing bits hah! I'll tackle the bit of history I left unfinished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4474515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Slip, I assume your familiar with Mass Effect? Remember the Collectors of ME2? Currently working on a exemplary battle for House Harkon based on that. Been thinking about to include the Scions as I can imagine them trying to save the kidnapped people. Alongisde the Huscarls of Harkon and a force of the Vlka. Would that be ok for you? If so, could you tell me, who of your Legion would participate? (which company / chapter, leader, any specific specialization, etc.?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Totes cool with me. As for who would participate, where in the galaxy are you looking for this to take part in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Thinking of either Obscurus or Pacificus. At least somewhere at the edge of the Imperium where it doesn't attracts attention at first. And it shouldn't be far away from the Eye of Terror for the following reason: The "Collectors" (need another name for them, Gatherers maybe? ^^) been kidnapping humans and other races for the same reason as the ME collectors, creating an avatar for their god, Ygg-Sharrozhj. In truth, they were lured by a daemon prince of Tzeentch. They were able to finish the avatar in the last moments of the ongoing imperial attack culminating in a final battle between the xenos, their demonical master, Astartes and the Huscarls of Nordmar. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Check up on some of the more unknown 40k Xenos Species. IIRC, theres one or two that might fit the bill of "Abducting Humans on a large scale" ...possibly. The "Turning them into goo and amalgamating them into a Daemonic Avatar" would be an interesting spin on providing a Host for a Daemon to possess. Well, the Scions Homeworld is in the Segmentum Tempestus so not all that far from Pacificus and opposite Obscurus. For who could participate, how the 8th Brotherhood numbering ~13k Marines under command of Captain Galen. While they have enough Battalions and Companies under them to be able to do pretty much anything, they've got more of an Airborne predisposition using aerial elements such as Jetbikes, Skimmers and Flyers of all kind. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 What about those ones the Luna Wolves and Blood Angels destroy in canon? Though I think they were more into enslavement Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Will do so. Do you have some particular in mind? After checking the 40k wiki, the closest i could found were the Khrave. *reading blunts post* I know which race you mean, but as you said, they were more of mental enthrallment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4481147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Fair enough. I've been thinking a little about ways in which the Scions' visors could be done. Perhaps take Alpha Legion heads and fill in any gaps on the faceplate, then paint it shiny black? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4484993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 To me, these would be the easiest to work with: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Thousand-Sons-Mk-IV-Heads-Upgrade-Set https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Dark-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Sons-of-Horus-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Blood-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/White-Scars-Mk-II-Heads-Upgrade-Set Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4485046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The TS ones look a little too ornate for Scions, I'd say Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4485048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Well, obviously some detail scraping is in order with all of the options :p Edited August 31, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/8/#findComment-4485050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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