Slips Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think the plan is, while on paper, the Loyalists had the numbers on their side that through Brilliant Planning by Icarion (Divination and all that) that the traitors were able to Cripple the Loyalist Legions enough that they no longer had a numerical advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm leaving it up to you guys if I die or not. If so, then I'll figure out some suitably nutty death for him, if not, I've got a rough idea on his Daemon Primarch model that I can start making next week so we have some more visuals for our little soirée here. Somewhere we discussed Niklaas and Raktra having a "friendly" confrontation( perhaps when they first meet) maybe they go head to head again at the battle that halts the traitor advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You're Khorne's new adopted son, Raktra. Daemon Princehood is guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You're Khorne's new adopted son, Raktra. Daemon Princehood is guaranteed. Even better if the Ascension is through a Bloody, Gore-y mess-of-a-ritual-combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You're Khorne's new adopted son, Raktra. Daemon Princehood is guaranteed. Oh Alexos could help in that, he could help preparing the ritual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Which traitor legions will attack which loyalist legions? Because that will likely help determine just how badly the loyalists are massacred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think the plan is, while on paper, the Loyalists had the numbers on their side that through Brilliant Planning by Icarion (Divination and all that) that the traitors were able to Cripple the Loyalist Legions enough that they no longer had a numerical advantage. Â Â The numbers can be tweaked. Keep in mind, some legions are spread out amongst the entire Imperium, while Icarion can arrange for his legions to concentrate their forces more effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Daemonhood through furious 'eadbutts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Which traitor legions will attack which loyalist legions? Because that will likely help determine just how badly the loyalists are massacred. Â Until the godslayers become properly corrupted by nurgle, they would only attack legions that could be perceived as 'tyrannical' or fanatics, meaning Alexandros is out. Â I also feel like these two would have gotten along well before the betrayal, so Koschei would be reluctant about attacking him. Â Alternatively, Grandpappy Nurgle could send them out on a mission to bring more into their 'righteous cause', a legion that could be swayed due to a flaw in the geneseed. Â At the moment it's looking like Yucahu or Azus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think that K'awil and the Grave Stalkers should go after Daer'dd and the Iron Bears, albeit with some assistance probably. This would allow for Daer'dd to make his last show of defiance in beating down on K'awil until he is a pulpy mess before he breathes his last. Â Yeah. Looking at the numbers I think I will need some assistance to take on a Legion that is 16 times my size :P I mean we're good, but probably not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Quick question: Â if I were to create rules for Koschei as a Daemon Prince of Nurgle, would I put them here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Alexos would go after EVERYBODY, seriously, he would play mind games via warp connections all the time and just destroy the imperial warp travel routes with magick. Also, legion wise, Alexandrosses legion would be Alexosses legion prime mission. and the iron bears and crimson lions would also be attacked by my legion ALOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Which traitor legions will attack which loyalist legions? Because that will likely help determine just how badly the loyalists are massacred. The Jackals would be led primarily after Niklaas, with Jackel wanting to test his mettle against the other stealth ops legion, Alexandros, as Jackel hates speakers and finds them cowardly, and Hectarion, using his berserkerness to draw him into traps to systematically whittle down his legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sorry to chime in here, I was just thinking whichever brother or brothers take down Daer'dd I thought it'd be a classic bit of story telling that the killing blow comes when Daer'dd about has the fight won, standing over his grievously wounded brother or brothers whom he is about to finish when they pull out a hidden pistol or blade and finish Daer'dd with it and it was a weapon he had forged for them. Maybe destroying both his hearts or something. I thought I'd see what you fine folks thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sounds like a plan to me. You can be standing over K'awil's broken body before [insert primarch name here] strikes the last blow that takes you out. So you will at least have a small victory over an enemy Primarch before you die ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 An energy weapon which simply vaporizes your head would be a very effectful death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Daer'dd stands tall in his battered armour looking down on the broken form of his once brother K'awil. He does not regret his actions, merely the necessity of them. The fight rages around them still, but they are in the eye of the storm and no mere astartes can approach them. Â [A plasma weapon whines as it reaches peak charge] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 A few pointers: Â 1. Alexandros will be on Terra when the Betrayal occurs due to Icarion's timing. That way, the Arch-Loyalist is unaware of the full extent of what's going on for a few days, and allows the Traitors to focus fire on the other legions/Primarchs. Â 2. While I like Alexos' enthusiasm, he is the one who's going to tear down the Terran wards and needs to time it at the same time as the Betrayal happens. So, he's on Warp duty for this event. Â 3. I was going to suggest the Pariah Primarchs go against the Psyker Loyalists, but then I saw that Alexandros is the only one! Funny how that worked out. Â 4. For Daer'dd and his legion, I think two Traitor legions/Primarchs is necessary to ensure his death, as y'all are grasping when it comes to his death scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Koschei can help if needs be, although Azus and Yucahu are still his preferred quarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 So i know that two of the chaos gods have legions under their patronage. I was wondering if anyone else is interested in falling under the power of a single god? I have thoughts that would allow the non-pariahs to fall under the sway of either slaanesh or tzeentch, but don't want to step on any toes if someone already has plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 What about a concept where someone is under patronage by only 2 gods. Would this be even possible? Khorne and nurgle wouldn't fit that bad togheter, wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Could work, iirc slaanesh and tzeentch don't hate each other tons, could see it happening in the trickster/ fast primarch, such as Jackel. Maybe he could be favoured without him knowing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah, this would give a new note to our heresy, where the gods can work partly together. Always wondered, why there doesn't exist any champions who were favoured by 2 gods. But all 4 work together.....as if... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Well as I said I have reasons for either/both the remaining gods might back my legion. But I don't want to do that if people think I'm hogging too much of the spotlight. Being chosen by 2 of the gods AND having Pariahs might be too much for one legion to have in the storyline. So I definitely want others to be able to get themselves in before me if they want. Â Of course if no-one minds or wants the remaining gods I'll use them to create an army of chaosy doom. [insert evil laughter] Edited August 15, 2015 by Grifftofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Alexos is chaos undevided all the way... So yeah :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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