ART - Symbols, Icons and Badges

[bluntblade]

Even a Second Reich symbol could be seen as a bit political. Rules of the B&C, and all that

[MikhalLeNoir]

Ahhh. But that was just an example for what apologist meant not a context driven symbol. But i delete it amd present this here

 

http://orig01.deviantart.net/a295/f/2011/006/9/0/the_imperial_eagle_by_adigitalsm1ley-d36jw84.png

[Sigismund229]

Perhaps the bird itself could look more like so: 

[Skalpynock]

Perhaps the bird itself could look more like so:

Given how much of my fluff was written listening to this album, I'm for it.

[Sigismund229]

 

Perhaps the bird itself could look more like so:

Given how much of my fluff was written listening to this album, I'm for it.

 

Woohoo! I'm not the only one that listens to sabaton while writing fluff!

[MikhalLeNoir]

And then remive the S in the chest and instert the vitruvian man? Could look very ace. Where are our photoshop masters?

[Sigismund229]

And then remive the S in the chest and instert the vitruvian man? Could look very ace. Where are our photoshop masters?

And fit in with the whole "Phoenix rising from the ashes of the Imperium" thing

[Skalpynock]

And then remive the S in the chest and instert the vitruvian man? Could look very ace. Where are our photoshop masters?

Had the same idea, but by Kalagann would that be a pain to freehand.

[MikhalLeNoir]

So, I am no pro at ps, but for quick kitbashing and having an orientation it might be enough

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/9/2/824267-.png

[apologist]

The symbol for Imperial Rogue Traders might prove useful:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/a/a4/Rogue_Trader_Icon2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140526181558

 

Perhaps remove a head to signify that the group only look forward, not back to the past.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Apologist

[Nomus Sardauk]

 

That could work. Jist thought of 2 pairs of wings (like higher order angels) and feet.

Something like that could work: after all, loyalist or secessionist, the Astartes are still angels of death, and the Suzerainty - unlike the Imperium - is ruled by elements of the Legiones

 

 

Maybe something like this?

 

http://orig04.deviantart.net/9f19/f/2009/218/7/b/vitruvian_icarus_by_swimmajor.png

 

[Skalpynock]

Sanguinius, that's exactly on point.

[Doctor Perils]

 

 

That could work. Jist thought of 2 pairs of wings (like higher order angels) and feet.

Something like that could work: after all, loyalist or secessionist, the Astartes are still angels of death, and the Suzerainty - unlike the Imperium - is ruled by elements of the Legiones

 

 

Maybe something like this?

 

http://orig04.deviantart.net/9f19/f/2009/218/7/b/vitruvian_icarus_by_swimmajor.png

 

Hum, I think the idea of the eagle/phoenix is a bit too reminiscent of the Aquila, even with just one head.

 

I do prefer this version, Vitruvian bio-angel. However, I wouldn't have the angel half-black half-white, as this time it is too reminiscent of the Mechanicum. One other modification I'd make is have "bent-wings" (I've forgotten the heraldic term) like most polish eagles have:

or probably the other way

 

 

 

 

[Skalpynock]

Plus the swept-down wings correlate with an ooooold piece of fluff I had about the Strelian Aquila, which has wings turned that way.

[MikhalLeNoir]

Uhm...didn't kozja come from strela? That would imho fit if they rely on something from home^^

 

The symbol for Imperial Rogue Traders might prove useful:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/a/a4/Rogue_Trader_Icon2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140526181558

 

Perhaps remove a head to signify that the group only look forward, not back to the past.

 

I lile your suggestion with the esgle only looking forward

Edited September 2, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir

[Doctor Perils]

Uhm...didn't kozja come from strela? That would imho fit if they rely on something from home^^

 

That was sorta the idea ;)

[Nomus Sardauk]

I do prefer this version, Vitruvian bio-angel. However, I wouldn't have the angel half-black half-white, as this time it is too reminiscent of the Mechanicum. One other modification I'd make is have "bent-wings" (I've forgotten the heraldic term) like most polish eagles have:

or probably the other way

 

 

 

 

 

 

The half-and-half colours weren't intentional on my part, they were simply part of the artpiece that I found most suitible for the concept I was trying to get across so don't worry about them. The Polish-style wings could work, although I thought they might fit better with the rest of the Vitruvian Man image if they, like in the image above, were spread up in place of the second set of sketched arms in the original VM illustration, perhaps the Strelan Aquila is used in place of the standard version by the Suzerainity to show they remain loyal, yet stand apart from the rest of the Imperium?

[~Drakzilla~]

And then there's Drak sitting in the corner. Watching...observing...learning...

So I'm liking a lot of these ideas here, I think I'm going to try and whip up some of them in my spare time to run by you guys.

[Sigismund229]

 

 

 

That could work. Jist thought of 2 pairs of wings (like higher order angels) and feet.

Something like that could work: after all, loyalist or secessionist, the Astartes are still angels of death, and the Suzerainty - unlike the Imperium - is ruled by elements of the Legiones

 

 

Maybe something like this?

 

http://orig04.deviantart.net/9f19/f/2009/218/7/b/vitruvian_icarus_by_swimmajor.png

 

Hum, I think the idea of the eagle/phoenix is a bit too reminiscent of the Aquila, even with just one head.

 

I do prefer this version, Vitruvian bio-angel. However, I wouldn't have the angel half-black half-white, as this time it is too reminiscent of the Mechanicum. One other modification I'd make is have "bent-wings" (I've forgotten the heraldic term) like most polish eagles have:

or probably the other way

 

 

 

 

 

And so begins the tale of the Winged Hussars in space...

[Doctor Perils]

 

And so begins the tale of the Winged Hussars in space...

 

Begins? Oh no, this has been part of the Warbringers' plan all along ;)

[Sigismund229]

 

 

And so begins the tale of the Winged Hussars in space...

 

Begins? Oh no, this has been part of the Warbringers' plan all along http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/msn-wink.gif

 

We remember

In September

That's the night that Terra was freed

We made the enemy bleed

AND THE WARBRINGERS ARRIVED!

The Warbringers battle cry post Insurrection

Edited September 2, 2016 by Sigismund229

[Skalpynock]

But they didn't free Terra, they just razed Madrigal.

[Sigismund229]

Comes to the same thing. The attack on Madrigal puts the traitors on the backfoot and forces Icarion's final gambit. Without the razing of Madrigal Terra would have fallen

Edited September 2, 2016 by Sigismund229

[~Drakzilla~]

Alright! After a long session of graphic designing, I have emerged from my art dungeon.

 

So first thing I wanted to try out was the "Suzerain Dragon" idea I had first. I made them so that they'd intentionally mirror the Aquila, while still maintaining a unique and separate silhouette. In my mind, it's meant to signify the Suzerainty's alleged superiority to the Imperium, with the dragon being the "king" of the mythical world. It is also intentionally looking toward the heavens, keeping its eyes on the future. Finally, it can also symbolize the Suzerainty's work in genetic manipulation, essentially bringing the mythical to life. I did 4 versions with minor differences, so I'd like to see you guys' thoughts on which works best. Personally, I'm leaning toward #4.

http://i.imgur.com/GZdmDXM.jpg

 

Second, here are a couple iterations of the Vitruvian Man concept. Now I think that the man on its own is a powerful enough image that it doesn't need any further embellishment, but your opinions may differ, so I'd like to hear them.

http://i.imgur.com/0QItVJA.jpg

 

This brings me to a problem I've encountered. You may be wondering,"What about the Eagle, or the Phoenix?"

 

So the two "big" factions in 40k both have a very distinct symbology. The Imperium has the Aquila, of course, and Chaos has the 8-Pointed Star. These icons have been reimagined, added to, embellished, and customized in every which way. Countless variants of the Aquila have adorned space marine armor and imperial tanks to the point where anything that bears an eagle or even bird wings is immediately associated with the Imperium. Same applies to Chaos, with anything featuring chaotic arrows and spikes. So if we were to have an eagle as the symbol of the Suzerainty, even with the wings turned down, it would still read as an Imperial symbol. Whatever symbol this faction has needs to be iconic enough that it can be twisted, shrunk, stretched and modified, applied to armor or buildings, and still be recognizable as a symbol of that faction.

 

That's why I'm leaning toward the dragon symbol. Simple enough to encourage variation, distinct enough that a space marine bearing dragon wings on his chestplate won't necessarily be labeled as Imperial. While the Vitruvian man is a great symbol, it is a bit too complex to fulfill that same role in my opinion. Now if anyone has other ideas for a symbol, or would like to tell me why I'm dead wrong, please go ahead. I just thought I'd share my thoughts.

 

/Semi-rant over.

[MikhalLeNoir]

I love #1 od the vetruvian men. Great work