Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Idea MkVII Tumultus Pattern The MkVII Tumultus Pattern was a pattern of power armour whose template was disseminated throughout the loyal legions by around the end of the first decade of the insurrection. A response to the stretched supply lines and high attrition that was eating away at many legion's armouries, the MkVII built on the work already done by legion techmarines on stop gap measure armours, which were classified under the umbrella term of mkV. While forge worlds continued to produce suits of MkIII, MkIV and MkVI in as large a quantities as they were able, the amount produced was not enough to keep up with the demands of the frontline, particularly not when many units were operating many months warp travel away from the nearest forge world. The MkVII was a response to the need of the legions for a suit which they could quickly and easily produce on the spot. Designed to be fabricated using either spare parts or melted down ceramite from suits that had suffered extensive damage. The armour was fabricated from multiple relatively thin layers of ceramite, with the number of layers in a given area depending upon the danger to that area, with the backs of the legs being relatively lightly armoured while the upper breastplate and helmet were extremely heavily armoured. This system was introduced in order to conserve materials while maximizing protection in those areas that needed it and relied heavily on the bonding studs pioneered in the MkV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Colour me intrigued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) So it's like a MK III.2? I think that we could let the three factions (Imperium, Traitors, Successionists) develop their own variants of power armor? Would say: - Imperium struggles to equip all new legionnaires. Therefore, they would use the existing patterns and maybe Sig's Tumultus pattern - Same with the Traitors, though they would be more dependent on scavenging - Successionists could work on an entire new pattern. Let's say the Tumultus pattern for loyalists and the Lux (enlightened) pattern for them? Could either be a version for mass production or for their elites. Edited August 16, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) The Insurrectionists have the forges of Akira and Cognis' domains in the Ghoul Stars. I'd say they're more likely to come up with new marks than the Secessionists. It occurs to me that Alpharius could render a new mark of helmet in plastic, if anyone designs one. Edited August 16, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Mkay Was just a thought 'cause of the science thing they both are working on. Had something like the Ultima pattern (Dornian Heresy) in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 @Kelborn: I was thinking more like improved mkV. It's still designed to be produced quickly, using the minimum number of materials while providing maximum protection. I'll see if I can sketch what I have in mind over lunch. @bluntblade: If anything I'd say the traitors are the least likely to need to scavenge and innovate than any of the other factions given they also have the allegiance of a lot of the Mechanicum. By contrast the Seccessionists will need to squeeze every ounce of value out of every piece of gear they have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That said, the Insurrectionists' Mechanicus allies will be keen to innovate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Why wouldn't the Secessionists have Mechanicum on their side given, y'know, the whole sciencey aspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 They're more interested in the biological than the mechanical. They'll have some sympathetic elements of the Mechanicus, but I think Xander's offer of uninhibited discovery will sway most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Apologies for the :cussty photo and awful sketch. It was taken on my phone and drawn in a rush. The basic idea comes across. Studded MkIV chestplate with a gorget, MkV legs, arms and shoulder guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I suggest we keep Mk7 as Aquila pattern for modelling purpose, but have the Tumultus designated MkV-b, as I really like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Been thinking some more about the Secessionists and how they will supply themselves with power armour. Other than scavenging, on a more long term basis I imagine they might be forced to fall back on producing the older mks like MkII as they likely require less technological expertise to manufacture than the more recent Mks. What you might then get is an interesting situation whereby the few suits of MkIV that the forge worlds they possess crank out will be reserved for veterans and officers and the armour worn by the lower ranks is MkII which, while worse in almost every respect than MkIV, is easier to manufacture and so the only suit they can produce in large enough numbers. This then opens up the, in my opinion, interesting route of the Suzerainty differing from the Imperium in terms of armour marks but rather than being higher tech the Suzerainty's armour is designed with ease of production foremost in mind. MikhalLeNoir 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Second Sigis Idea. Makes sense and helps differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 While we're focused on this subject, does anyone have an idea for who might be supplied by Forge Worlds Sarum or Mantilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 While we're focused on this subject, does anyone have an idea for who might be supplied by Forge Worlds Sarum or Mantilla?Where are they in the galaxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 While we're focused on this subject, does anyone have an idea for who might be supplied by Forge Worlds Sarum or Mantilla?Where are they in the galaxy?Err... (googles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sarum is in the Golgotha Sector and I can't find anything for Mantilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Closest to Golgotha are the Halycon Wardens and Lightning Bearers. If no one else wants it I can make Mantilla one of the triarchy Edit: Also, just thinking of the aesthetic of the Suzerainty and ways to distinguish it from the empire so I was reading the history of Poland by Adam Zamoyski(good book btw). What struck me was that the Polish nobility during the Commonwealth era invested all their money into portable wealth or buildings. So perhaps a baroque look to the Imperium's gothic look and with the sm suits of armour being covered in gold filigree and studded with as many gems as possible seeing as that's how the Slazchta styled their armour apparently and forgive me if I'm wrong but the overriding influence on the Warbringers seems to be the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth(I mean...blunt even included a character called Jagiello in his last story about the Warbringers) Edited August 16, 2016 by Sigismund229 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Mantilla might just be the name of the voxcaster pattern on the Mk V helmet. Sarum doesn't fit the Lightning Bearers, but it could work for the more aggressive elements of the Halcyon Wardens. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Agreed, although ibviosuly sim has the final say. Btw, what do we think of the idea of the Suzerainty being baroque and gold&gems everywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 @Sigismund229: Actually if I remember correctly I think the cultural inspiration for the Warbringers was Tsarist Russia with a scientific twist, hence the IXth being so elitist, convinced of their own superiority over common humans and pushing their "genetic aristocracy" ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 While the subject's fresh on my mind, do any Legions field an equivalent to Deredeo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 While the subject's fresh on my mind, do any Legions field an equivalent to Deredeo? The eagle warriors yes, we have the Mexicatii pattern and cogno armor pattern power armors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I believe he's referring to Dreadnoughts, not Power Armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 well the eagle wrriors use alot of deredeos.. so I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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