Slips Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Explain to me how you'll get that Moritat there in the First Place, then. You can no longer Phase Walker him across the Board and if that Super-Heavy is within a No-Scatter Deepstrike Bubble or outside an Interceptor Bubble, it deserves to get #REKT. The Inferno Moritat is, like the Plasma Moritat before him, a One-Trick-Pony that is even more limited in scope since he has to be 6" or less Away from his Target to shoot it. And if you Deepstrike him? Well, safest placement is 12" from anything that could screw that up so, guess what? He isn't shooting jack that turn. StepSonOfDorn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) What about 5 attack bikes with assualt cannons? That's 20 fast shots for some good mc hunting. I don't think that he BA will have trouble with mechanicum considering how many assualt cannons you can fit. Edited February 6, 2016 by ThatOneMarshal Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) I can imagine it now: Tech Priest: Lord Sanguinius, we've just developed a new prototype weapon, we call it an Assault Cannon Raldoron: Lord, the initial data suggests a propensity to jam which should be ad.. Sanguinius: Put it on everything Azkellion: Perhaps an initial...limited de- Sanguinius: EVERYTHING Raldoron: but Lord, the jamming, surely more tests ar- Sanguinius: DID I :cuss STUTTER? And lo, the Blood Angels Legion took the Great Crusade in style. Edited February 6, 2016 by Slipstreams DONT DODGE THE SWEAR FILTER Terminus, simison, Reyner and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I can imagine it now: Tech Priest: Lord Sanguinius, we've just developed a new prototype weapon, we call it an Assault Cannon Raldoron: Lord, the initial data suggests a propensity to jam which should be ad.. Sanguinius: Put it on everything Azkellion: Perhaps an initial...limited de- Sanguinius: EVERYTHING Raldoron: but Lord, the jamming, surely more tests ar- Sanguinius: DID I F**KING STUTTER? And lo, the Blood Angels Legion took the Great Crusade in style. Haha that's EXACTLY how it happened Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DODGE THE SWEAR FILTER. WE HAVE AN EMOTE FOR THAT REASON AND ITS AGAINST BOARD RULES TO DO SO. Edited February 6, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DODGE THE SWEAR FILTER. WE HAVE AN EMOTE FOR THAT REASON AND ITS AGAINST BOARD RULES. Oops, sorry. I knew swearing isn't allowed so I thought starring it was ok. My bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 For that, you are to executed by..assault cannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Its fine LOL. Also, gotta remember not to Hold Shift (like a man, Caps is for kids) when doing that :P ahhh today has been draining so sorry for any aggro. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where are people getting that you can replace all heavy flamers? The only blurb I've seen is that legion terminators can trade, just like IF. that's it as far as I've seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1454793622180.jpg Boop Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Nope, any ba unit, including vehicles. If equipped with a heavy flamer, can swap out to assault cannon for 5pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Nope, any ba unit, including vehicles. If equipped with a heavy flamer, can swap out to assault cannon for 5pts Though that means in certain cases they have to buy the Heavy Flamer first and then upgrade it for +5 over the HF Cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 The photo I saw cut off at the deathfire rules. This... Changes things. Hmm.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Nope, any ba unit, including vehicles. If equipped with a heavy flamer, can swap out to assault cannon for 5pts Though that means in certain cases they have to buy the Heavy Flamer first and then upgrade it for +5 over the HF Cost. The extra points cost over a heavy flamer purchase will stop exactly -1 Blood Angel players from upgrading no less than all the heavy flamers they have. Edited February 7, 2016 by Flint13 1ncarnadine, Slips, Supe robot gangster #1 and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Nope, any ba unit, including vehicles. If equipped with a heavy flamer, can swap out to assault cannon for 5pts Though that means in certain cases they have to buy the Heavy Flamer first and then upgrade it for +5 over the HF Cost. Of course Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 It sure as hell isn't going to stop me if the IF did get the same deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Nope, any ba unit, including vehicles. If equipped with a heavy flamer, can swap out to assault cannon for 5ptsThough that means in certain cases they have to buy the Heavy Flamer first and then upgrade it for +5 over the HF Cost. Of course But..assault cannons..like assault cannons everywhere. I hope fw have assault cannon conversion kits ready because they are going to get assault cannon requests. Assault cannon. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/Legion-Rotor-Cannon-Set-2015 Not like anyone else was using them :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 The photo I saw cut off at the deathfire rules. This... Changes things. Hmm.... And you said they sucked :D. Going back to what I was once told by a vet when I first started back in 4th, it pays to bum rush those [expletive relating to mother] blitzkrieg style since their so fast. We can so a hammer and anvil style approach to BA where we deepstrike some assualt marines for pressure then flat out everything in turn for a turn 2 assault. Anything that's deemed scary gets destroyed by any assault cannons we got on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm not sure if it makes up for other issues, but that is a lot of dakka. And you can never have enuff dakka. The points efficiency of multiple assault cannons on say predators, could help offset the horrible points inefficiency of assault marines. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Haha, rotors will convert well into nipple guns for a deredeo. Like a massive..massive fembot from Austin powers. I'm not sure if it makes up for other issues, but that is a lot of dakka. And you can never have enuff dakka. The points efficiency of multiple assault cannons on say predators, could help offset the horrible points inefficiency of assault marines. I have heard they are getting a price drop soon in the updated book.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 ..... I'm ordering some rotor cannons now. And assault marines are so drastically overcosted its silly. 10 pts to lose bolter and fury of the legion, pick up EITHER a 12" move or a reroll charge+HOW. I'm now thinking that FW drastically undercut the legion rules as a whole, and to compensate, you can slap AC everywhere. Not exactly what I would've expected. Problem is going to be if that becomes an issue down the line, and they take away said option, thats going to be a lot of angry nerds. Though now I get the vehicle restrictions, but such a weird way of balancing that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaz Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Blood Angel Deredeo to be best Anti-Flyer in game? Auto Include Heavy Support even? 2x Assault Boob Cannon's, Autocannon's. That's a lot of Dakka. Assuming this rule applies to walkers. ** Also keep in mind we could see assault marines drop in price dramatically come the new red book. Edited February 7, 2016 by Vaz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 So wait is it heavy flamers that can be exchanged or heavy bolters? Either way we get assault cannons on rhinos now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Blood Angel Deredeo to be best Anti-Flyer in game? Auto Include Heavy Support even? 2x Assault Boob Cannon's, Autocannon's. That's a lot of Dakka. Assuming this rule applies to walkers. ** Also keep in mind we could see assault marines drop in price dramatically come the new red book. Nope. If the Deredeo chooses to neither move nor Run in its turn it may, if its controlling player wishes, gain the Skyfire and Interceptor special rules for that entire game turn (ie, both the controlling player’s turn and their opponent’s following player turn) for all of its weapons except its heavy bolters/ heavy flamers. from the Deredeo PDF: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Deredeo.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm going to laugh when they later change the Legion rules and people have to break their 15 assault cannon tanks. Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/2/#findComment-4297255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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