Izlude Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1. Chris Wraight: Doing DG stuff would be awesome. His story with Mortarion has thus far been so good with his protrayal in Scars and that short one in Blades of the Traitor. If he does the Khan and Mortarion, I will be happy. 2. Annandale: I agree not a major fan, his stuff has been neither super good or bad, just ehh. I guess WB is is thing, they always come across as sort of cartoony villains. Sort of bummed he is doing Guilliman for the new Primarch series. ADB and Abnett has done a awesome job portraying 3. Guy Haley: He seems like one of the newer HH authors? I thought his portrayal of Sangunius in Pharos was very well done and much better than what was done in FTT. His nightlords are also well done and come across as more complex than just a bunch of sadist. I certainly look forward to more work from him, he really hit out of the park with Pharos. 4. Gav: He is probably his least favorite author, let someone else do DAs. His RG is okay but I agree let others give it a crack. 5. John French: I think he is awesome and I would love for him to pick up a Primarch. I think his stuff in Ironclad and Perturabo would be good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Yes...John French is solid Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Yes...John French is solid Agreed. I've high hopes for Praetorian of Dorn. And I'd like to see him tackle Horus, be it in this new series or the main HH one. That Warmaster audio short was a great soliloquy and probably my favourite look at him since Horus Rising. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Yes...John French is solid Although I generally like his prose, I do think that Tallarn: Ironclad missed a trick by only mentioning the largest tank battle in Imperial history rather than using the lead-up to focus on it. I was particularly disappointed at how little was said about it. The lead up was, imo, great but I would have preferred the final parts of the story to actually include the climactic battle to a much greater degree. Ah well. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I didn't mind that too much, Olis. It might have never reached a lot of people's expectations. Plus it is always doable later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yes...John French is solid Although I generally like his prose, I do think that Tallarn: Ironclad missed a trick by only mentioning the largest tank battle in Imperial history rather than using the lead-up to focus on it. I was particularly disappointed at how little was said about it. The lead up was, imo, great but I would have preferred the final parts of the story to actually include the climactic battle to a much greater degree. Ah well. :( I am not familiar with that one. I read the short story version of Templar...and I liked his prose. Much better than Kyme, Thorpe, or Swallow. Those three authours are IMO the Black Library baseline. I also like French's style more than those of Annandale, Haley, Sanders, and Smilie. Those guys are OK but not great...again, IMO. I think Parrino is quite good. I liked his very unique rendition of the White Scars "Shape of the Hunt". I read the script version and enjoyed it. So below Abnett, Bowden, and Wraight...I think French is one of the most solid authours Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4334945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yes...John French is solid Although I generally like his prose, I do think that Tallarn: Ironclad missed a trick by only mentioning the largest tank battle in Imperial history rather than using the lead-up to focus on it. I was particularly disappointed at how little was said about it. The lead up was, imo, great but I would have preferred the final parts of the story to actually include the climactic battle to a much greater degree. Ah well. I am not familiar with that one. I read the short story version of Templar...and I liked his prose. Much better than Kyme, Thorpe, or Swallow. Those three authours are IMO the Black Library baseline. I also like French's style more than those of Annandale, Haley, Sanders, and Smilie. Those guys are OK but not great...again, IMO. I think Parrino is quite good. I liked his very unique rendition of the White Scars "Shape of the Hunt". I read the script version and enjoyed it. So below Abnett, Bowden, and Wraight...I think French is one of the most solid authours Tallarn Executioner and Tallarn Ironclad are very good. Definite must read for IW fans Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4335224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If the Amazon blurb is to be believed, the Leman Russ novel will be about the battle of Dulan... the Lion and the Wolf begin their rivalry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4348304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Called it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4348384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Haven't read anything substantial by Annadale yet, I'll wait before judging him. Hopefully he sticks with the Heresy Guilliman trend and doesn't turn him back into our spiritual liege. Just finished Scars, and holy hell does it make me excited for Chris' stuff in this series. Here's hoping he gets Mortarion along with Russ and Jaghatai. I'm still not going to say Gav is all bad, I've been hearing good things about The Emperor Expects, but The Lion and Deliverance Lost are probably my least favourite Novel and Novella from what I've read so far, heck, Kyme's Feat of Iron was better than The Lion. (And no, I have not and am not going to read Kyme's Vulkan Novels or Battle for the Abyss.) If I were to do a maximum of 2 books per author, my dream lineup (Minus Guilliman and Russ) would be: Lion El'Jonson- ADB Fulgrim- Nick Kyme (Just hear me out, Imperfect was really great and he wrote Fulgrim's vanity without having him acting like a drunk peacock or a 5 year old, I'd give him a chance) Perturabo- John French Jaghatai- Chris Wraight Dorn- John French Kurze- Guy Haley Sanguinius- Guy Haley Ferrus- Dan Abnett (Must be saved by a good author) Angron- Matthew Farrer Mortarion- Chris Wraight Magnus- Graham Mcneill Horus- Dan Abnett Lorgar- Anthony Reynolds Vulkan- Matthew Farrer (Must be saved by a good author) Corax- ADB (Must be saved by a good author) Alpharius/Omegon- Rob Sanders Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4348527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If I were to do a maximum of 2 books per author, my dream lineup (Minus Guilliman and Russ) would be: Lion El'Jonson- ADB Fulgrim- Nick Kyme (Just hear me out, Imperfect was really great and he wrote Fulgrim's vanity without having him acting like a drunk peacock or a 5 year old, I'd give him a chance) Perturabo- John French Jaghatai- Chris Wraight Dorn- John French Kurze- Guy Haley Sanguinius- Guy Haley Ferrus- Dan Abnett (Must be saved by a good author) Angron- Matthew Farrer Mortarion- Chris Wraight Magnus- Graham Mcneill Horus- Dan Abnett Lorgar- Anthony Reynolds Vulkan- Matthew Farrer (Must be saved by a good author) Corax- ADB (Must be saved by a good author) Alpharius/Omegon- Rob Sanders Nice selection, and a fun idea! I pretty much agree with you on Kyme in Imperfect too. His take on Fulgrim was decent, and his other EC short, Chirurgeon, was good too. My own picks: Lion El'Jonson - ??? (not sure, none of the portrayals so far have blown me away) Fulgrim - Nick Kyme Perturabo - Graham McNeill Jaghatai Khan - Chris Wraight Rogal Dorn - John French Konrad Curze - Aaron Dembski-Bowden Sanguinius - Guy Haley Ferrus Manus - ??? (another where I'm not sure, since he hasn't appeared that much) Angron - Matthew Farrer Mortarion - Chris Wraight Magnus - Graham McNeill? (he does well, but I would like to see someone else give it a go) Horus - John French Lorgar - Anthony Reynolds Vulkan - Guy Haley? (I just want someone other than Nick Kyme to give it a go, and Guy's Salamanders shorts have been solid, though they haven't involved Vulkan himself) Corax - Dan Abnett Alpharius Omegon - Dan Abnett Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4348639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Lorgar-Anthony Reynolds I will FIGHT you. Over the Internet. With words. ;) More seriously, Reynold's is one of the biggest offenders for me as far as the "Chaos Marines are cardboard cliches who fail at everything" stereotype. (See thousands of Astartes, Titans, warships, an irreplaceable plot McGuffin and a chance to deal a death blow to the Imperium thrown away so Kor Phaeron and Erebus can have an inconclusive slap fight). The idea of him tackling Lorgar... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I've not read anything of his outside the Heresy series, but within that his work has been solid. Scions of the Storm gave us our first glimpse of the Word Bearers, Khârn: The Eightfold Path was a great little short following on from Betrayer, and I loved The Purge for the grim action and Sor Talgron's character and progression. ADB would be the safer pick, but I'd enjoy seeing someone fresh try Lorgar out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlude Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Going by authors: 1. Dan Abnett: He was my first choice for Guilliman as his protrayal in KNF and UE was fantastic. Russ and the Lion would probably benefit with Dan as well. 2. McNeill: Magnus and Perturabo. I think he is a good author and has handled these two really well. 3. French: Dorn-he has a good handle on IF and Crimson Fist and Templar is awesome. Horus-I'd definitely would not mind if he did him, the Warmaster was short but sweet. 4. Wraight: He undoubtable is the most qualified to do the Khan and Mortarion. 5. Haley: After Pharos I think he is justified to do Sanguinius. I'd be okay if he did Curze although ADB would be my first pick. 6. ADB: He must do Lorgar and Angron. There can be no other :) His work with The First Heretic and Betrayer sets the bar. 7. Gav: My least favorite, he will get Corax and the Lion just because. 8. Kyme: I know he is hit or miss but I think he would do well with Fulgrim. As for Vulkan, has anyone really done him besides him? I am not sure what wold make Vulkan interesting, I mean he is the compassionate teddy bear, a bit boring but I think that is okay one of the primarch is not a total dick as opposed to Manus who is the poster child for being a dick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The Word Bearers trilogy is Anthony Reynold's big thing outside of the Heresy. I have very strong feelings about that trilogy. It's the story of a Dark Apostle climbing up the ranks by inserting athames in his battle brothers backs as as hand holds, which is okay, but then the ending... "So...Lord Erebus...you and Kor Phaeron ruined our big attack on the Imperium playing politics." "Yep." "So...we get rid of Kor Phaeron now?" "Don't be silly. This is how we show our love for another!" "So...all those Marines, warships, Titans and the plot Macguffin we lost...all of that was for nothing." "Uh huh! Want to be on the Dark Council? We have comfy chairs." "I do like comfy chairs I guess." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Admittedly, I haven't read his Word Bearers trilogy, I was just going off Scions of the Storm and Khârn: The Eightfold Path, both of which I thought were swell. Of course ADB would be preferable, but Anthony is the only author I've read to write the Word Bearers as anything more than mustache-twirling villains. And if anything, I'd like to see ADB use his sizeable, rock-hard talents to inject new life into one of the many primarchs made lame by bad writing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Oh yeah, seeing him save Vulkan, Fulgrim, Corax or Ferrous would be divine... I just care more about Lorgar Aurelian than any of them, sorry you guys (and all your fans). :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Did any author even covered Ferrus? Haven't read something about him. Or did I missed something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 He was in the novel Fulgrim. His one great moment in HH history cut short when he lost his head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Did any author even covered Ferrus? Haven't read something about him. Or did I missed something? As far as I know he was just in Fulgrim and Nick Kyme's novella Feat of Iron. Neither portrayals were particularly interesting, he definitely needs a better author to be made more interesting than dry toast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Did any author even covered Ferrus? Haven't read something about him. Or did I missed something? The main ones he appeared in are Fulgrim, Promethean Sun and Feat of Iron, he had very minor appearances in Prince of Crows, The First Heretic, The Phoenician and Vulkan Lives (the real Ferrus I mean). Plus the clones in Imperfect. So basically just Nick Kyme and Graham McNeill. Neither of their portrayals were ones I disliked (I actually think Feat of Iron is one of Nick's better works in the series). But I'd like to see something more substantial for him, certainly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4349469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 his sizeable, rock-hard talents to inject new life Lol??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4350528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 his sizeable, rock-hard talents to inject new life Lol??? Lol indeed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4350930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Did any author even covered Ferrus? Haven't read something about him. Or did I missed something? The Horus Heresy Book 2 has info on the Legion and FM as well. I'm hoping they do a good job on Ferrus, he deserves it. Maybe some more detail on Medusa before the coming of the Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4350976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Yeah...in Fulgrim, he just comes across as a hotheaded blowhard who keeps getting his ass handed to him by Fulgrim Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320089-the-horus-heresy-primarchs-series/page/3/#findComment-4351464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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