Raktra Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Both arms are bare, this is him not long before the start of the Crusade, just after the Old Blood discovery :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4511008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 EXCLUSIVE LIVE CAMERA FOOTAGE OF THE HOMEWORLD OF THE BERSERKERS: simison and Skalpynock 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4511752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I thought it was more like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hw4w2GhkBKA Actually, everyone should take time out and at least watch The Raid (only 100min, one of my favourite movies ever) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4511755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Added Raktra's final incarnation to the opening post! The points cost is still kinda up for debate, but still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4512777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I think the points will ne settled when sim takes his calculator out. So you never know. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4512798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Soooo many Genestealer cultist bits I could use. AO and I have already planned some stuff, and I'm currently salivating over that circular saw... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4513495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I might actually end up making a legion upgrade kit for that tank so everyone can use it... Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4513543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Revisited Rocket Skates by Deftones recently. Some variation on "Guns! Razors! KNIVES!" might have to be slipped in somewhere. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4517917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Looking at a Death Guard thread in Heresy30k, if you nipped the cranial spikes off some of those helmets they could work nicely for Berserkers. Edited October 3, 2016 by bluntblade Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4518809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 I've pondered the same thing, as well as their very simple-yet-tough looking torso sets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4518983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalripphook Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I feel like your Legion Special Rules are quite limiting and really end up being more negative than positive. Ignoring feel no pain is quite situational at best. "Fearless" is great but then you mandate a point increase on every model and less than great jet packs. Just feels rather under whelming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4519341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 What else could be added/changed for their combat purposes? I don't wanna risk having what is essentially just better dressed World Eaters, see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4519536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalripphook Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Well maybe something like Dark Eldars Power from pain. Where their abilities slowly get better as the game progresses. You could keep the ignore fnp but knocked the fearless down to either in combat or outside of deployment zone. Maybe that way it represents their ability to be more deadly the closer they get to the opponent. Edited October 3, 2016 by Generalripphook Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4519591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I can kind of see your point Generalripphook, the Berserkers are probably not the most powerful in terms of Legion rules. I have to say that my thoughts around tweaking their power up would be more along the lines of the ones made by Forgeworld for the World Eaters and Emperor's Children. That is to say a bonus in challenges to show off that they aren't really interested in honour, just in killing their opponent. I don't think that a characteristic increase would work as it would synergise too much with the RoW and Preferred Enemy would probably overlap with Raktra's Sire rule (though it could still fit). Another option could be to allow Berserker characters to use Look Out Sir while in a challenge (possibly at -1 relative to normal): as they yank others into the way of incoming blows because it doesn't matter how you win, just that you do ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Well it's just ignoring the Fear rule, personally I don't see that as too strong. Death Guard do the same after all. Could give them shred in challenges? Or shred on the charge for whole units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Shred in challenges could work. I think on whole units it would be a bit much and it would overlap with the Sire rule, making that only half as good. I guess you'd be less likely to take something like Lightning Claws, but that could be a plus or a minus depending on your point of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) There was another pair of ideas that I had, but I fear they may be overpowered - 1, rending in the first round of combat, 2, murderous strike in challenges. Edit: part of my logic on the very tame Legion rules was as a partial gateway to being able to make more powerful characters/units without it all combining into some kind of gigantic overpowered clutser:cuss. Edited October 4, 2016 by Raktra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Rending is always a rule I treat with caution and respect, because it can be incredibly powerful in certain situations. I wouldn't want to have whole armies of Berserkers gaining it, even if only in the first round. However I think that that or Murderous Strike would be fine if given only in challenges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 The murderous one I'm quite keen on, it fits the "death cures all pain" bit nicely. Plus it helps make Hell's Teeth a really terrifying alternative to a power weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 *goes to check Hell's Teeth* Oh, yeah. Either Rending or Shred would really diminish the utility of those, so Murderous Strike would provide some really nice synergy with them, which is good to have. I actually really like that as a combination, though it does mean you'll be constantly fishing for those lucky sixes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 At least it's 5+ when the "Only the Strong" conditions are met :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Ouch. That's a bit mean :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4520473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Is it worth doing an RoW for the Blood Boilers? Squads get the option to take Destroyer gear for however many points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4532887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 I'm veeeery tempted. I might see if I can do that as a replacement option for the third character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4532898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Did we give Slynnat and Riktus Destroyer armaments? You could call it We Go Further, as that's become the motto of the Blood Boilers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/3/#findComment-4533051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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