Apothecary Meros Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Since Simison asked ever so nicely for me to write a preface for book 2, I must know, what actually happens in book 2? I see we have three legions and some Insurgos (I'm afraid I haven't a clue who they are either) and we have some attacks on loyalist worlds by the heretics in the galactic east. I'm going to need some names. Specific planets, events and characters that I can mention in this preface. As much as I'd like to go wild with imagination and detail about what the legions do, this is the kind of thing where I need to mix accurate information with powerful storytelling, so anything that could be deemed appropriate for me to insert is something I'd appreciate knowing about. Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalripphook Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Stygian Jackels Dune Serpents Void Eagles Insurgos: Shepherds of Eden, Morning Stars, Traitor Dune Serpents, Traitor Iron Bears Clans Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Since Simison asked ever so nicely for me to write a preface for book 2, I must know, what actually happens in book 2? I see we have three legions and some Insurgos (I'm afraid I haven't a clue who they are either) and we have some attacks on loyalist worlds by the heretics in the galactic east. I'm going to need some names. Specific planets, events and characters that I can mention in this preface. As much as I'd like to go wild with imagination and detail about what the legions do, this is the kind of thing where I need to mix accurate information with powerful storytelling, so anything that could be deemed appropriate for me to insert is something I'd appreciate knowing about. Cheers. We've not come up with any specific battles. All we've come up with so far is a rough outline. Following the Day of Revelation, Icarion's forces begin to spread out from the heart of his power around Madrigal. At this stage, the Imperium is ripped apart into hundreds of tiny pockets of conflicting loyalties. The two major campaigns we're going to be focussing on here are the Stygian Jackals campaign against the Dune Serpents, who are the last force resisting Icarion on the Eastern Fringe with hit and run tactics. The Stygian Jackals are sent to beat the Dune Serpents at their own game and secure Icarion's Eastern flank. The other campaign is another legion, currently the Drowned, being sent to secure the north east of the galaxy, which is protected by the Void Eagles who Alex has sent as a rapid response to try and shore up his line there after the devastation of the Iron Bears on the Day of Revelation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Rereading the Prefaces for canon books 1,3, & 4 reveal that the Prefaces don't rely on a lot of hard details. They're supposed to be more poetic in nature, trying to grasp the the deeper stuff of the conflict. So, at most, you might have a few lines about the war in the East and a couple of mentions about the Day of Revelation. Which is good for us because we don't have a lot of details right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Not really a campaign or anything per say but on Accer Ferris when Daer'dd dies there is "the day of blood" in which a couple Titan Legios and Knight houses revolt as they're still resentful of Daer'dd taking their Aristocratic power; but they're quickly put down by loyalist Bears, Daughters, and houses and Legios though there is a lot of civilian death as the traitors have multiple Imperators. This is also the distraction the Naagloshii and Wendiigo use to escape from the Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I thought that was hypothetical? I remember I suggested we move it down the timeline a ways, to late or even post-Insurrection Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 No you're thinking of the BIG rebellion, this is just the little one where a couple hives get wasted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Ah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4529479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 For the sake of knowing we won't get sued, I'd say the latter Yep, just add that retribution is needed.in order to play the insurgos and fin. No stress, no sues. Only happy players Well, it's just for the Blackshields and any force fitting the criteria for Shattered Legion rules. This book will provide all of the necessary rules to play an Insurgo force. Alright, as a reminder, this book is in Alpha Phase. That means the fluff and rules for the factions are the top priority. If we can get the general history section done, that's a bonus. Campaign fluff is considered Delta Phase, while campaign rules are Omega Phase. Squig, Skal, and ....Invictus, do any of you need help with the fluff chapters? For the Insurgos, we're going to have one-page introduction to cover the concept. Who wants to do that? Likewise, Squig, Skal, and Redd, do any of you want help with any of the Insurgo factions? I think Blunt has done some work for the Traitor Dune Serpents, am I correct? Finally, who is in charge of the Shepherds? Blunt, are you their 'owner' or is Raktra? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yes, I've done some stuff for the Traitor Serpents. I think Raktra and I have a joint ownership thing going on, though we've never really discussed it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yes, I've done some stuff for the Traitor Serpents. I think Raktra and I have a joint ownership thing going on, though we've never really discussed it. So, it'd be okay if I assigned their work to you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Fine by me. I've been thinking a little about their units, and I'm leaning away from Terminator elites and towards sharpshooters to reflect their ethos and how they're not as well-equipped as a full Legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Fine by me. I've been thinking a little about their units, and I'm leaning away from Terminator elites and towards sharpshooters to reflect their ethos and how they're not as well-equipped as a full Legion Alright. I'll start working on the Insurgos intro page, and Meros has the Preface for the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just a little thought. If we mention Thunderhawks and other smaller transports, how about it was the Dune Serpents who first adopted them? As they operate in small units most of the time and value less conspicuous craft Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just a little thought. If we mention Thunderhawks and other smaller transports, how about it was the Dune Serpents who first adopted them? As they operate in small units most of the time and value less conspicuous craft Sure. Let it be known that it is the Dune Serpents who came up with the Thunderhawks...unless someone else has already called dibs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Well, I assume that they were devised by the Mechanicus as in canon, but no one had popularised them by Istvaan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Thunder hawks were derived from STCs recovered during crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 They could discover them and implement them first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4531973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I quite like the possibility that the Jade General might have discovered the STC and found little use for it among his own Legion. Just to break from the "we found it, we're gonna play with it" thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 So what do the Morning Stars and Shepherds need? Intro blurb obviously, but units, War Disposition, that sort of thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 So what do the Morning Stars and Shepherds need? Intro blurb obviously, but units, War Disposition, that sort of thing? Hm, thought I wrote it down. Anyway, here's the layout: General information, Command Hierarchy, and Material Strength. My intro page will establish what the Insurgos are, so when you start writing the actual forces, go straight into the relevant details. For example, the general information for the Blackshields are sub-divided into three sections: The Steadfast, the Turncoat, and the Renegade; The Disavowed; and The Damned to cover every kind of Blackshield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Jotting down ideas in the Shepherds thread. For clarification, when we talk about material strength that takes in Titans, tanks and all that, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Not titans, as they are separate forces to the Legions, even if deployed with them. But tanks, Super-heavies, flyers and ships (I guess) should all be fair game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Jotting down ideas in the Shepherds thread. For clarification, when we talk about material strength that takes in Titans, tanks and all that, right? Rereading the entry, it's about legion assets proper. So, I don't think you'd include Titans or the state of allies, but you could mention how limited their air units are or the state of their armoury. Or what Grifft side, ninja. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325484-black-book-the-eastern-expansion-campaigns/page/11/#findComment-4532794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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