Beams Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yeah. Exorcists are solid, sure, and they are competitively costed, more or less, but they can still whiff big time, and they really aren't that bad. They are good ranged support with solid front armour. No more, no less. I ran a bunch of figures awhile ago that basically says they are a little worse than a three las pred, on avg, unless they are firing at a target with low toughness, IE Terminators. Then they are a little better on avg. Against vehicles, its about armor 12 where press start doing better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yeah. Exorcists are solid, sure, and they are competitively costed, more or less, but they can still whiff big time, and they really aren't that bad. They are good ranged support with solid front armour. No more, no less.I ran a bunch of figures awhile ago that basically says they are a little worse than a three las pred, on avg, unless they are firing at a target with low toughness, IE Terminators. Then they are a little better on avg. Against vehicles, its about armor 12 where press start doing better.Good to know! I generally use mine for taking out heavy infantry or light vehicles in any case. Against heavy vehicles . . . there's a reason the Emperor gave us the Meltagun :P I'm out of likes for the day or you'd get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dawnstar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Personally I find Exorcists are good at putting the fear up people because of their swingy nature. They'll have a few nondescript turns and then suddenly pull off an Explodes result or put 4-5 wounds on an elite unit, making themselves a priority target for elimination in the process. Having something like that happen to you once tends to create an underlying worry that it could do so again and push them from a modest threat to a must kill target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I ran a bunch of figures awhile ago that basically says they are a little worse than a three las pred, on avg, unless they are firing at a target with low toughness, IE Terminators. Then they are a little better on avg. Against vehicles, its about armor 12 where press start doing better. These days the las-vindicator and various other vehicles beat out both, but the exorcist always had that random shot fear factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 My thought: Use the Castellan FOC. Run all sisters units except for a few cherry-picked marine units which you model as sisters in more elaborate or heavier armour. That way those vanguard vets escorting Celestine are just veteran Seraphim. Also gives us some flyers and tanks. Not perfect, but I'm trying to find positives. Run them as Vanguard Vets so you can run a fully kitted unit of Bolt Pistols and Power Swords with Shields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I don't do Sisters counts-as Space Marines :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 then play an inquisitor or convert yourself an ephrael stern dread. boom! job's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 then play an inquisitor or convert yourself an ephrael stern dread. boom! job's done!I have an Inquisitor who I will use. My main issue now is that I only have 5 Sisters Superior :P I like to run 2 melta dom squads, so I don't have enough for the 4 BSSs. Anyway, you're right, I can, I just don't find the idea incredibly exciting. Should be a cool detachment for combining (for example) Sisters and Guard in whatever fluffy way you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The thing that annoys me, is she lost act of faithm. We should mass email GW to see if they can errata that Miraculous Intervention into Act of Faith: Miraculous Intervention... She lost it as an Act of Faith because of how the Act of Faith rules work. Being an Act of Faith, it would prohibit her from using it if she joined any unit/model (like the Triumverate formation) without the rule. Nope, she always had a very specific loophole on her AoF. Since the AoF is stated to go off AFTER she dies and you aren't technically part of the unit anymore. You technically can't benefit from laud hailers either though per some precedense set in the faq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The thing that annoys me, is she lost act of faithm. We should mass email GW to see if they can errata that Miraculous Intervention into Act of Faith: Miraculous Intervention... She lost it as an Act of Faith because of how the Act of Faith rules work. Being an Act of Faith, it would prohibit her from using it if she joined any unit/model (like the Triumverate formation) without the rule.Nope, she always had a very specific loophole on her AoF. Since the AoF is stated to go off AFTER she dies and you aren't technically part of the unit anymore. You technically can't benefit from laud hailers either though per some precedense set in the faq. Anything is possible if you believe ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Holding the box in hand. Far smaller than expected. Will be a pain to work it Oo Oh well, that'll be my self flagellation :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Holding the box in hand. Far smaller than expected. Will be a pain to work it Oo Oh well, that'll be my self flagellation :D I am incandescent with envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Holding the box in hand. Far smaller than expected. Will be a pain to work it Oo Oh well, that'll be my self flagellation I am incandescent with envy. It's a very pretty box. It was actually bigger than I thought considering how small her two blisterpack sized sprues are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I actually hate myself for picking it up. I was happy with my Wolves and Stormcasts. However, the Saint threw everything into turmoil and I am questioning my choices in life. I need more holiness in my armies D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I join Immersturm: I too now own the Triumverate of the Imperium! The art on the back of the box (under the sleeve) is rather steampunk-ish. I think I'm going to be very grateful for the detailed assembly guides. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I am annoyed at how small she is. I know that she is just a human in terms of body size, but I am running my Marines slightly bigger than GW scale (read: the occasional stormcast). It looks really silly when you have a massive wall of armoured ceramite and this pretty little wall flower floating close by. It just seems so... insignificant, especially when a living saint should be the center piece of the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqualine47 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Can those of you whom have the models in hand do me a favor? I would appreciate it if you would compare a metal sister to Celestine's/Greyfax's/Geminaes' bits for scale. Pics would be even better. I want to find out if Sisters (assuming we get new ones) are going to stay small / guard-sized or they are having scale creep up to marine size (like Sisters of Silence are). Thanks. Scale shots of assembled models would be better obviously, but I don't expect you to have any built yet. I'd check myself this weekend, but the FLGS I pre-ordered at got screwed and was allocated 0 (yes, ZERO) boxes due to the nationwide selling out. Gonna check elsewhere, but I'm probably looking at having to wait a long time for the boxset to come back in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Well, I started this year determined not to buy any more 40K models and to reduce my extensive backlog of models and also to save money. Today I caved and ordered the Triumvirate box. It's not quite 'I regret nothing' until I have the new Celestine in my hands :P Looking forward to seeing people painting her up - I'll be painting mine in my Sacred Rose scheme again. With all the new paints and my modest increase in skill over a decade or so I hope to do a good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonbandito Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Can those of you whom have the models in hand do me a favor? I would appreciate it if you would compare a metal sister to Celestine's/Greyfax's/Geminaes' bits for scale. Pics would be even better. I want to find out if Sisters (assuming we get new ones) are going to stay small / guard-sized or they are having scale creep up to marine size (like Sisters of Silence are). Thanks. Scale shots of assembled models would be better obviously, but I don't expect you to have any built yet. I'd check myself this weekend, but the FLGS I pre-ordered at got screwed and was allocated 0 (yes, ZERO) boxes due to the nationwide selling out. Gonna check elsewhere, but I'm probably looking at having to wait a long time for the boxset to come back in stock. The Geminae are proportioned very similar to the metal Seraphim (the Geminae's legs are slightly slimmer though). The plastic models stand significantly higher off the base of course, due to the floating scroll stand thing. Plastic Celestine, head to toe, is almost identically proportioned to the metal Celestine. One thing to note is that the plastic Geminae and Celestine are designed to evoke a sense of forward movement, so the plastic models are 'leaning forward' in their flight poses as opposed to the stationary 'straight up and down' of the metal models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 To add on to what Goonbandito said, they also have hair that is flowing in the wind to add to the illusion of movement, something none of my metal Sisters have. I also compared Eleanor (one of the Geminae) to a model of a Seraphim Superior. Eleanor is slightly taller head to toe, with a much larger jump pack. Sword is the same length. The breastplate seems a little wider on Eleanor and her bolt pistol is a little slimmer, but it matches plastic bolt pistols on my Space Marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqualine47 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ok, so you are saying that were they reposed to match an old model, they would be the same size? So no scale creep? If so, that is pleasing. Edit: hmmm with the additional info I feel less certain. Trying to decide between Grishnak sisters now or waiting for plastic at an unknown point in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What size base does Celestine and her bodyguard have? The Geminae looked like regular 25mm but Celestine's looked a bit bigger but not so much that it could not have been an optical illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Celestine 40mm and Gemini 32mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezr91aeL Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I was sure that Gemini weren't 25mm... I'm wondering if plastic sisters (when they will make them) will have 25 or 32 mm base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I hope not. Then they will look tiny assuming they keep similar size to differentiate them from SM power armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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