bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Any idea which class battleship is best after a Gloriana? Assuming the Scions don't requisition another, they'll need the next best thing to replace theirs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 When do the Scions lose their Gloriana? And my personal opinion would be that the best replacement flagship would be either an Emperor Class or Apocalypse Class. The Emperor Class has better command and control systems, and it's role as a carrier would be greatly benefitial to typical Astarte orbital actions. The Apocalypse, by contrast, is armed with lances and a nova cannon, fairly dedicated in its role as a ship-of-the-line killer, which could be an adequete replacement for a Gloriana's firepower The other option would be a Retribution/Victory class. The Retribution is a dedicated brawler and linebreaker, armed with massive broadside ordinance, as well as being heavily armoured and able to match a cruiser for speed. It also boasts a modest hangar for attack craft. The Victory lacks the hangar space, however instead it has more lances and mounts a Nova cannon. Both variants also mount torpedo tubes. The Retribution/Victory class I feel would be more suitable for a Primarch/Legion whose commanders value being right in the thick of the fighting as opposed to adopting a secondary role in the actual battle (and therefore allowing themselves greater tactical control) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Cheers. Now I need Slips' judgement. The Hell's Heart is destroyed on the DoR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Something to consider...if I remember correctly the Emperor and Apocalypse class battleships were relatively new during the end of the golden crusade and while Glorianas were by no means common you were much more likely to see a one of these versions: Dictates Dominus Goliath Imperator Infernus Ironclad Mortis Rex Retribution Tiamat Ascension Torrent And the Victory class Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 MINOR CORRECTION The Apocalypse class battleship was first used in M30.00 so it would have seen service during the golden crusade though from what I read maybe not in major numbers due to the rarity of the archeotech used in it's construction. The Emperor Class was first discovered as part of a massive space hulk that was theorized to be well over 10,000 years old according to the Wiki...The Wiki also says the Emperor is the oldest class of battleship still in use in the 40th millennia, but makes no mention of it's use during the Golden Crusade Era. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 A Dictatus ends up as a Legion's flagship in canon, so running with that until Slips comments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Sounds alright but a bit more info on the ship class would be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Annoyingly, there's little info on non-Gloriana ships from the Crusade period that I can find. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Lame; Dictatus sounds nice but the Emperor class with its extra C&C suites might fit the role better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Slow and ponderous, mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Gah! True...Dictatus it is then. The lack of info about the ship class is likely to play into our favor since it lets us be a bit more liberal in how customized the ship is since theres no real basis for comparison outside of size class. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Now, we need a name. Blade of the Depths? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 "Dolphin"^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Bladeflipper? ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I mean, if you go that route, Mik, Delphin exists and is a thing :p Thought about the The Cymolopian due to the reference being the goddess of Giant Storm Waves; that or we could go with The Nereian to reference Nereus aka the Old Man Of The Sea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Please be serious, Kel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Oooh, I like Slip's suggestion of The Nereian, very thematic. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 Likewise Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4888997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 *reads super-detailed posts about battleships from Talonair and Blind* I feel like just for that we should name a couple of admirals after them. Talonair, TheBlindPrimarch and bluntblade 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 While we are surprised that Azus has an artifical hand/ arm I realized that there is alot I can't remember. Therefore we should type down 50 facts about our legions. And gather.them in our starting thread. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 *reads super-detailed posts about battleships from Talonair and Blind* I feel like just for that we should name a couple of admirals after them. I wouldn't object :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 *reads super-detailed posts about battleships from Talonair and Blind* I feel like just for that we should name a couple of admirals after them. I wouldn't object Nor I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 General announcement: I'll be absent for the rest of the week, possibly most of the next two weeks. Blame fresher's parties Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 General announcement: I'll be absent for the rest of the week, possibly most of the next two weeks. Blame fresher's parties Stay safe out there. To Talonair and Blind, preferred era and side? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 right during the height of the insurrection and loyalist, obviously lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/90/#findComment-4889742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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