Emperor's Spears covered by A D B

[Captain_Krash]

Ah okay thanks Phoebus!!!!

 

Krash

[A D-B]

A D-B I'm not sure this was asked but on the Lexicanum for Emperors spears it states that the Emperors Spears are charged to protect the region known as Elara's Veil. Is this going to cannon in your novel? I can't seem to find the source of this info anywhere.

 

Krash

 

Like Phoebus already covered, yep. Who knows what'll get changed in later drafts, but that's where it stands right now.

 

The Celestial Lions, the Star Scorpions, and the Emperor's Spears are an alliance of three Chapters that serve as the Guardians of the Veil. They wear that badge on their armour, too. (Much like how the Astral Claws, the Lamenters, the Charnel Guard, and the Mantis Warriors were the Maelstrom Wardens.)

 

But the Spears are suffering, because the Scorpions disintegrated and the Lions were rendered nearly extinct. So they're stretched thin over a region of space that needs three Chapters to defend it. And that was before the Great Rift opened. Things got even worse after that.

 

 

By the way, is it intended to be a standalone book like The Emperor's Gift or is it more like Rob's Red Tithe - "let us see how it will be received and then decide if we want to continue it"?

 

Another point I'd like to ask (bit off topic, sorry): The author, you suggested, Steven Pressfield did some, let's say "Get some  done" books. Are you familiar with this work as well?

 

It's along the lines of whether I want to do any more, yeah. I never know what I want to do year by year, because I like to try lots of new stuff and because the IP is always in flux. (I have no idea if the Black Legion series is even continuing at this point, for example. I think it probably will, but I need to have some meetings to make sure I know the lie of the land before I commit to it.) 

 

I try to do something new with every novel - like any author, I guess - and the perspective in Spear of the Emperor has been a great change of pace ("I'll do a Space Marine novel from the POV of a Chapter thrall..."). There's definitely scope for it to continue onward as a trilogy or series, as the prologue and epilogue will make obvious - or as I'm sure many people can guess already.

 

(And yeah, The War of Art was great! Second only to Ego is the Enemy in terms of creative motivation and perspective.)

[Kelborn]

Great insight, thanks for that.

 

Well, it feels good to see that others do want to do something new with each new project. As far as I can tell, there are some authors who want to focus on certain aspects / chapters in order to flesh them out like Kyme. And there are some others like you (A D-B ), who want to try something different every now and then.

 

Having both kind mixed in a team is the best way to go with, imho.

 

Having the story of the spears told by a thrall somehow reminds me of Septimus. Yes, he was part of a chaos warband but in the end, the story of Talos was partially told by Septimus and Octavia as well. The most intimidating scenes were written through their eyes (does this sentences make even sense? ^^)

 

Do they (Star Scorpions, Celestial Lions and Emperor's Spears) have a name for their brotherhood like the Astartes Praeses? I sill enjoying this bond. Think there should be more implemented. It's just a natural decision to ally yourselves with close by Chapters. Can you tell us how big said region is? Is it of sector size or bigger?

 

Eager to read Spear of the Emperor. Here's already hope for a continuation.

 

(Thanks for the reply regarding The War of Art. I'm kind of struggling with finishing started stuff. Most of the time, I get distracted and find the distraction way more interesting than my actual project (current example: writing about Iron Warriors and being distracted by Dusk Raiders / Death Guard). In this, I'm a typical representative of the Gemini star sign ^^")

 

Sorry for pumping you. ^^"

Edited September 22, 2017 by Kelborn

[b1soul]

I'm still waiting for a chapter to be called the Emperor's Jewels

 

So far we have spears, swords, scythes, shields, shadow, children, hands, etc.

[Captain_Krash]

WOW awesome reply A D-B thanks for the insight and cool use of sadly damaged chapters! Can't wait to order this book!

 

Krash

[Mellow]

I'm still waiting for a chapter to be called the Emperor's Jewels

 

So far we have spears, swords, scythes, shields, shadow, children, hands, etc.

Emperors Jewels.

 

Emperors Spear.

 

 

There’s a filthy joke there! It’s all about Lords Holy countenance. I won’t say it. Imaginations people. Imaginations.

[Thurservor]

I'm still waiting for a chapter to be called the Emperor's Jewels

 

So far we have spears, swords, scythes, shields, shadow, children, hands, etc.

 

If you add:

1. Emperor's Warbringers

2. Emperor's Wolves

3. Emperor's Storm

 

You got complete list of Emperor's belongings and live stock that got a chapter of SM named after it

[Cleanse And Purify]

As a kickboxer, I feel certain martial implements are underrepresented in the Astartes Chapter name lexicon. We have the Imperial Fists, and fists are a great weapon (though occasionally fragile if unprotected), but what about the elbow and the knee? Or the shin? Sure sure, The Scythes of the Emperor describes the Emperor and his love for antique agricultural implements, but what of The Emperor's Legkicks, or the Emperor's Spinning Elbows? I daresay those have injured just as many people as the humble fist

[Dagoth Ur]

As a kickboxer, I feel certain martial implements are underrepresented in the Astartes Chapter name lexicon. We have the Imperial Fists, and fists are a great weapon (though occasionally fragile if unprotected), but what about the elbow and the knee? Or the shin? Sure sure, The Scythes of the Emperor describes the Emperor and his love for antique agricultural implements, but what of The Emperor's Legkicks, or the Emperor's Spinning Elbows? I daresay those have injured just as many people as the humble fist

How about the Emperor's Roundhouse Kicks?

[Mellow]

Emperors Chuck Norris?

[A D-B]

Do they (Star Scorpions, Celestial Lions and Emperor's Spears) have a name for their brotherhood like the Astartes Praeses? I sill enjoying this bond. Think there should be more implemented. It's just a natural decision to ally yourselves with close by Chapters. Can you tell us how big said region is? Is it of sector size or bigger?

 

1. The Adeptus Vaelarii, more commonly known as the Sentinels of the Veil.

2. Biggish.

3. "Many systems."

 

My friend Lee did this, and I sort of love him for it:

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by A D-B

[Conn Eremon]

Is this Sentinels of the Veil institution (or alliance or what have you) going to feature prominently in the book, outside of the cast of characters and the Chapter itself?

 

We have very little information on these kinds of organizations beyond the Maelstrom Warders, or to an even lesser extent the Astartes Praeses. It'd be nice to have something else with which to wrap one's head around, something like what The Talon of Horus did for the Eye of Terror.

[Ascanius]

There should definitely be more of this stuff in the Dark Imperium era - Guilliman's created a whole bunch of chapters like the Wolfspear whose job it is to guard specific warp rifts and whatnot, so there should be some more brotherhoods of chapters within neighbouring subsectors.

[Kelborn]

 

Do they (Star Scorpions, Celestial Lions and Emperor's Spears) have a name for their brotherhood like the Astartes Praeses? I sill enjoying this bond. Think there should be more implemented. It's just a natural decision to ally yourselves with close by Chapters. Can you tell us how big said region is? Is it of sector size or bigger?

 

1. The Adeptus Vaelarii, more commonly known as the Sentinels of the Veil.

2. Biggish.

3. "Many systems."

 

My friend Lee did this, and I sort of love him for it:

 

 

 

[Mellow]

There should definitely be more of this stuff in the Dark Imperium era - Guilliman's created a whole bunch of chapters like the Wolfspear whose job it is to guard specific warp rifts and whatnot, so there should be some more brotherhoods of chapters within neighbouring subsectors.

Say what you will about Guilliman but he did see the advantage of mixing Primaris Astartes from different Legion heritage to increase a sense of brotherhood so seeing various chapters working together is good for this reason.

 

It’s also bad because if one group goes traitor. All members of the group go traitor.

 

Do Primaris even get corrupted? We haven’t seen any yet and Has Cawl made them more resistant?

[bluntblade]

Urgh, I hope it doesn't go down that route. That would take so much away from the Loyalist-Traitor marine dynamic.

[RikuEru]

Urgh, I hope it doesn't go down that route. That would take so much away from the Loyalist-Traitor marine dynamic.

Do not worry. In Dark Imperium, Captain Felix, probably one of the most promising Primaris, going by Guilliman's choice of making him his Equerry and the words of praise he has for him, was suffering HEAVILY under the influence of a Chaos Artefact in his vicinity. Visions of Despair, Voices, wanting to give up, etc.

He was most definitely tempted and !could! have fallen to Nurgle, just like a regular Marine, only the Librarians' help saved him.

 

So maybe we will some day see Primaris Marines facing their Brothers from the Indomitus Crusade that have fallen to Chaos... ...maybe written by Aaron. Or I have now jinxed that possibility entirely.

 

 

Aaron D-B, have you already proposed to GW to release Emperor's Spears Chapter Tactics/Stratagems/Relics in the Chapter Approved Book? ;)

...or rather - if it doesn't spoil too much - what would you give to them ruleswise?

 

...and is there a "Spear" of the Emperor (presumably once owned/crafted by him) as a Artefact in their Highest Sanctum?

(Similiar to how the Space Wolves have a shrine for the Spear of Russ)

Would be interesting if it wasn't really a literal spear, but a scepter, a tool or some such that was only dubbed as "spear".

(Or a Spear, the tip of it crafted from a broken of piece of his armor - lost at Ullanor, in his fight against Horus or someplace else.)

 

And (obviously not fully serious):

Or is it a Weapon named "The Emperor's SpearS", because it isn't a Spear, but a Crossbow-like Archaeotech Weapon (...maybe one the Emperor used in Ancient Times, before he became a Warlord among Barbarians ;D)

[Mellow]

It’s provably something simple.

 

The spear is a weapon

 

Or

 

(My personal theory) The trident pattern represents a battle tactic of some kind.

[Sete]

Or maybe they have a relic that is just a fork used by the Emperor.

And the Emperor used it as a spoon.(skyrim reference ;) )

Edited September 23, 2017 by Sete

[Doctor Perils]

That helm design is quite nice - is it personal heraldry, or does it indicate veteran/primaris status?

[b1soul]

I honestly think a SM novel written from a human serf's perspective would be utterly fascinating

 

I'm currently working my way through Dante by Guy Haley, and a group of boys are denied ascendancy but allowed to serve the BA as serfs. It would be most interesting to be placed in their shoes.

[R_F_D]

I think I saw a tweet from A-DB saying that the main character was female, and from the above that would be a serf/assistant?

https://twitter.com/adembskibowden/status/911350614369738753

(Am putting 2+2 together and equating latest work to the Emperor's Spears)

[Marshal Rohr]

She's actually a female marine dating the main character. :P

[A D-B]

She's actually a female marine dating the main character.

 

This is the cover:

 

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/EXTATE/1990s-uk-mills-boon-book-cover-EXTATE.jpg

[A D-B]

I honestly think a SM novel written from a human serf's perspective would be utterly fascinating

 

I'm currently working my way through Dante by Guy Haley, and a group of boys are denied ascendancy but allowed to serve the BA as serfs. It would be most interesting to be placed in their shoes.

 

Oooh. I don't usually like to read Special Character books, but that tempts me a lot. Sold! I'll give that a go.

 

As for Anuradha, the serf in question, she and the two other serf characters (Tyberia and Cato) have a lot of opportunities some thralls never would. Being a Mentor Legion serf means specialist assignments and training compared to, say, the kinds of Chapter serfs that spend their lives maintaining and cleaning and firing gun turrets on the walls of a fortress-monastery.