Brofist Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Snippy claw vs drill is pretty poor balance. Right now each has a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Snippy claw vs drill is pretty poor balance. Right now each has a purpose. If it retains its +5 upgrade cost, yes. If its +15-20, not SO much. But yeah, if they dont do anything else special, its a straight upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 CONFIRMED STAYING IN 7TH (for now) RULE BOOK SPECIFIC TO AGE OF DARKNESS COMING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I'm disappointed by this news, now I'm still stuck with the horrible editing and balancing mess that is Inferno. FW needs to rewrite and rebalance all three army lists from Inferno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 While I'm glad since it'll keep some friends in the hobby, I'm extremely disappointed in inferno. The fact that they're releasing more custodes stuff that are missing from the book is even more annoying on top of the terrible editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athrawes Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I think this rulebook is just a stopgap, while they update to 8th. HH really has to go to 8th eventually, they have said as much. But to me, it always seemed like that update could take a year or more, and if that was the case, releasing this HH 7th ed rulebook makes sense. They can't have a system without rules being available, so since GW will stop producing the rulebook, FW will instead. I think a better solution would have been as a free pdf on the FW site, not a book to buy and be replaced in a year, but I'm still convinced that FW will use this book to buy time and transition/rebalance 30k for 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 HH is probably dead in my parts if this is the case. Very sad Saturday all round. With how excellent 8th edition is looking there isn't going to be any organizational will. I could have possibly driven it forward but with nothing coming for SW again I'm hardly stirred to move a muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I don't usually like to gloat but in this caee i shall permit myself a delicious I TOLD YOU SO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaone Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 For now ? So it'll change ? But Warhammer Community said that 30k would change to v8 a bit after 40k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Suits me just fine, keeping on playing with the current set of rules, until they (FW) figured out how to transition properly after there is some experience with the 8th ed. rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I'm genuinely surprised that there are no plans to move to 8th. I knew it wouldn't happen soon but figured they'd be thinking about it. Maybe once all factions have been done? Then they'd just need a single rule book to update everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Possibly the illness and sad loss of Alan Bligh has slowed the change to 8th edition for HH given how pivotal to the whole setting he was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunk Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I read the statement "Horus Heresy will use 7th edition rules for now" as "Horus Heresy will use 7th edition rules until Forge World release their Battles in the Age of Darkness red book, a tweaked and updated version for 7th edition designed to be compatible with all existing Horus Heresy books", rather than FW saying they will update to 8th edition eventually. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u72/Bob_Hunk/Horus%20Heresy/18765083_10154745772598831_224826592_o_zpsgvy73ulu.jpg Image Credit: Battle Bunnies BOOM! Totally called it! Not certain I'm happy about being right though. On one hand it's good that I don't have to re-buy the HH books I already own, but on the other hand I really like the direction 8th is taking, a vast improvement on 7th, IMO. Still, I suppose we don't know exactly what the Age of Darkness tweaks to 7th will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 This is the right decision. Three systems for three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 While HH isn't the horribly broken mess that 7th ed 40k was, 8th seems like a far better ruleset. And all the guys that can only get games against 40k armies are completely . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Because people were already not divided? 30K was hardly a game that allowed a lot of other armies to play in it, and cases like Orks and Eldar are technically not legal. In fact that were dozens of things that could only be used in 30K and never in 40K. Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 That's a bummer. Was looking forward to the option of more narrative play and game duration unde " take the weekend off". Guess my Heresy stuff is going to be more allong my painting style - more single models / units for the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Today I bought the Heavy Dread, Transport and Gunship. Now I'm not even sure how I feel as it's staying 7th, especially with all of the 8th ed hype flying around right now. The room was definately filled with an air of "oh..." when Tony said it. I'd like to say that they are going to update the rules and make them a little better, but they are just releasing a stripped back rulebook with the extra heresy bits in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Because people were already not divided? 30K was hardly a game that allowed a lot of other armies to play in it, and cases like Orks and Eldar are technically not legal. In fact that were dozens of things that could only be used in 30K and never in 40K. Ran uhhhh....What? 30k is just 40k by another name in 7th, its the same game. I played literally *hundreds* of games against necrons, orks, tau, and every other kind of army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Today I bought the Heavy Dread, Transport and Gunship. Is there a rules sheet coming with the Telemon Dread ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Because people were already not divided? 30K was hardly a game that allowed a lot of other armies to play in it, and cases like Orks and Eldar are technically not legal. In fact that were dozens of things that could only be used in 30K and never in 40K. Ran uhhhh....What? 30k is just 40k by another name in 7th, its the same game. I played literally *hundreds* of games against necrons, orks, tau, and every other kind of army. The Age of Darkness rules are not supposed to be played with Necrons, Orks and Tau, because they are not part of the Age of Darkness ruleset - specially because these armies are not balanced against the Age of Darkness armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Because people were already not divided? 30K was hardly a game that allowed a lot of other armies to play in it, and cases like Orks and Eldar are technically not legal. In fact that were dozens of things that could only be used in 30K and never in 40K. Ran uhhhh....What? 30k is just 40k by another name in 7th, its the same game. I played literally *hundreds* of games against necrons, orks, tau, and every other kind of army. The Age of Darkness rules are not supposed to be played with Necrons, Orks and Tau, because they are not part of the Age of Darkness ruleset - specially because these armies are not balanced against the Age of Darkness armies. They are fine. I have played more then enough to know. Every single army in 40k is perfectly fine against 30k armies. We just use the same force-org chart. game fits perfectly. the game was always balanced around T4 3+ save models, well just so happens horus heresy was designed around the same thing for some odd reason ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 AWFUL decision. Idiotic one to. Dividing a gaming community has Never, ever, ever shot a company in the foot...... Oh... Wait....... Because people were already not divided? 30K was hardly a game that allowed a lot of other armies to play in it, and cases like Orks and Eldar are technically not legal. In fact that were dozens of things that could only be used in 30K and never in 40K. Ran uhhhh....What? 30k is just 40k by another name in 7th, its the same game. I played literally *hundreds* of games against necrons, orks, tau, and every other kind of army. The Age of Darkness rules are not supposed to be played with Necrons, Orks and Tau, because they are not part of the Age of Darkness ruleset - specially because these armies are not balanced against the Age of Darkness armies. They are fine. I have played more then enough to know. Every single army in 40k is perfectly fine against 30k armies. We just use the same force-org chart. game fits perfectly. the game was always balanced around T4 3+ save models, well just so happens horus heresy was designed around the same thing for some odd reason ;-) What? 7th edition is well known of having horribly unbalanced armies it is one of the reasons why so many people enjoys 30K because it takes a good ruleset, but it makes armies that dont stomp over the others. You don't see a lot of post regarding "How to defeat - specific army", like in 40K (where we see - How to defeat Tau/Necron/Eldar). Ran Edit:And even then, they are still not rulebound because these armies ARE NOT part of the Age of Darkness ruleset. So Forgeworld shouldn't have to worry about keeping with the 40K game armies that they never really had to worry about or play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Vale Alan Bligh. I don't know what I expected, and right now I'm too upset to think straight. But I'm sure it will work out for us. I love how HH is currently. I look forward to what awaits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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