DogWelder Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 You guys seem fairly confident that the loyalists will win lol. Most of the Ultramarine players I know are panicking quite a bit. One of my friends moved all her college classes up to July so she can dedicate all of August to scoring points for the loyalists with her Guilliman/Primaris models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Well we have lived through this before so we know the out come . D3L 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) You don't need to be a bitter cynic to do math. [All Loyalist SM Combined] > [Nurgle CSM]. Unless GW goes to extreme lengths to fudge the numbers, Chaos can't possibly win. Edited July 3, 2017 by Shinespider Lord Marshal and D3L 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garreck Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 You don't need to be a bitter cynic to do math. [All Loyalist SM Combined] > [Nurgle CSM]. Unless GW goes to extreme lengths to fudge the numbers, Chaos can't possibly win. The numbers are definitely tilted in the Imperium's favor, but according to this it's not just Nurgle CSM, and xenos players can disrupt either side as they see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calyptra Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 [xenos players can disrupt either side as they see fit. But they have nothing to gain, so I'm not sure why they'd bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The Tau do, for one. Disrupting the UM/Imperium could significantly lessen the stress they face from then on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 It really depends on how the xenos players look at it. Can their (sub)faction "win" the campaign? No, no they can't. In which case, why bother? Does the player care enough about the game's story to try to tilt things either for or against Chaos or the Imperium? If no, see above. If yes, they can swing the results. If I was planning on playing my Eldar, for example, then yes I would want to participate because story-wise from the view of the Eldar, defeating Chaos is very important. But I'm not, I'm going Chaotic for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garreck Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 xenos players can disrupt either side as they see fit. But they have nothing to gain, so I'm not sure why they'd bother. None of us really have anything to "gain." An Imperium victory is almost assured, and it's doubtful a victory for Chaos would result in any meaningful benefit to Chaos players beyond bragging rights. Unless you're talking fluff-wise, in which case I believe it's demonstrably untrue that certain factions would feel they have nothing to gain or lose in the outcome of an Imperium vs Chaos conflict. It's just some added context to play in. Added motivation to finish up some units that have been sitting on the shelf. A means to participate with the global gaming community if you're so inclined. I suppose if one is already involved in a juicy campaign with a local club this campaign has little appeal, but it sounds like good fun otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 So, the loyalists are going to get a proper Codex with deeper rules, relics, commands etc just in time for the campaign. What chance! Totally unplanned! :P Just like the first painting challenge of the campaign being "paint a Start Collecting: Space Marines". GW hasn't already picked a winner. Nuh-uh. Well, it doesn't matter. Konor will burn. Your corpse-Emperor and your zombie-Primarch will not save you. Iron Father Ferrum, the jeske, Plaguecaster and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 So, the loyalists are going to get a proper Codex with deeper rules, relics, commands etc just in time for the campaign. What chance! Totally unplanned! Just like the first painting challenge of the campaign being "paint a Start Collecting: Space Marines". GW hasn't already picked a winner. Nuh-uh. Well, it doesn't matter. Konor will burn. Your corpse-Emperor and your zombie-Primarch will not save you. Yes because Khârn has not been resurrected like a dozen times by now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Fate of Konor website is now up: https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Imperium will win with ease :-D The Primaris sales will be through the roof. Guilliman lists will overcome Chaos oppositions :-D #trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yeah I expect for the imperium to easily win. A ton of new models, more updated model range overall, more fleshed out rules. Opposed to that Chaos has ancient models on the marine range and the Deathguard release about a month or so later. deathspectersgt7 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 You're probably right about the sales, Ishagu, but I've arranged with my local GW to count everything I purchase/build/paint towards the Chaos tally, and have been encouraging others to do the same. Big Bobby G has been rescuing everyone everywhere in the new fluff, even the Blood Angels and their successors at Baal, and it's about time he came down a peg, IMHO. I say this as a staunch loyalist - The Imperium's been due for a big loss for a while, and it's beyond time it actually happened. Doctor Perils, dansupvi, deathspectersgt7 and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Picked up a spare RG head from a friend now to get that proper Chaos Marine to hold it. Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The putrid warbands of the Death Guard, led by the Daemon Primarch Mortarion, have launched a furious assault upon the Ultramarines’ stellar empire. A lot of telling, but an increasingly frustrating lack of showing. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 the website they showed off today for the date of konor is pretty cool. nice interactive google map with an overlay to show which side is winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 But we already know that chaos lost ? In the fluff, because I don't think people hope for a nurgle[sub faction of all chaos] winning vs whole empire[ with a new codex for marines]. I don't understand events like this, or the one AoS had, are they ment for painters to show off or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 But we already know that chaos lost ? In the fluff, because I don't think people hope for a nurgle[sub faction of all chaos] winning vs whole empire[ with a new codex for marines]. I don't understand events like this, or the one AoS had, are they ment for painters to show off or something? They are meant for GW to earn quick money and for people who don't exactly think campaigns like this through to have some fun. Iron-Daemon Forge, deathspectersgt7 and Marshal Loss 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Website is pretty NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I just hope that everyone follows the rules and plays fair. Regardless of what you think about the narrative/story, falsifying victories for either faction would be pretty rotten no matter who does it. BluegrassGamer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'm probably playing my Orks instead of my Alphas. I tend to lean toward the cynical, with Chaos already predetermined to lose (isn't the GK codex next up?). I'll fight whomever, and report the battle appropriately. I'm not in this to win. I'm in it for the WAAAAAGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Imperium will win with ease :-D The Primaris sales will be through the roof. Guilliman lists will overcome Chaos oppositions :-D #trolling? It's not trolling if everybody knows it's going to be like that already. Any campaign where sales count is going to result in an Imperial victory, especially when Xenos players can count their wins for 'em as well. D3L 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Imperium will win with ease :-D The Primaris sales will be through the roof. Guilliman lists will overcome Chaos oppositions :-D #trolling? It's not trolling if everybody knows it's going to be like that already. Any campaign where sales count is going to result in an Imperial victory, especially when Xenos players can count their wins for 'em as well. It's why im considering using my wolves to fight for chaos, just to make sure guilli loses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Imperium will win with ease :-D The Primaris sales will be through the roof. Guilliman lists will overcome Chaos oppositions :-D #trolling? You're the only Ultramarines player I met who's so calm about this. Most of the ones I know on fan sites are in full blown panic over this and a lot of them are complaining that GW might destroy a major world of Ultramar just for the sake of a player event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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