General Strike Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Notes in general about us: Our whole army is slow outside of our three fast attack choices We are very durable We have high damage output between lowering morale, mortal wounds, auto hit weapons, and our legion trait. Mortarion is mean and flexible, good for killing most things. Thoughts: A army built around lowering morale to increase losses, feeding those deaths into poxwalkers, and using Mortarion and Typhus to reap more deaths sounds cool. I want to use our Terminators, and they are at least as tough as Scarab Occult. I really need to deep analyze our codex, but I think pouring into poxwalkers and armor, mass plague marines and shooting, with haulers or drones to react, or just pure shooting/melee either direction. My opinions may change once I get my codex, and I'm sure many builds will come out of you guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4882939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelancholic Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Apparently Morty is a Psyker who knows three powers from Contagion, can cast two and deny three. I mean...doesn't the guy like hate psykers. Like...more than any other primarch. Still I guess it makes sense, all Primarchs are meant to have psychic potential and Morty might have softened his views considering...you know...he's a Daemon Prince now. If this is true (Miniwargaming said specifically that he's a psyker with three powers and stuff, so I don't think it's a mistake) he's even better. Seriously, for all he does...at 470 points he's honestly a steal. Take him in 1000 point games if you want to lose friends. Hell take him in 750 games...even five hundred points. Nobody can field anything at 500 points that can reliably nuke him in one turn. He could literally be your entire army...he seriously looks that good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4882951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Apparently Morty is a Psyker who knows three powers from Contagion, can cast two and deny three. I mean...doesn't the guy like hate psykers. Like...more than any other primarch. Still I guess it makes sense, all Primarchs are meant to have psychic potential and Morty might have softened his views considering...you know...he's a Daemon Prince now. Yeah and he also used to be fighting for the IoM, be loyal, not mutated/daemonized and so on. The warp does weird stuff to you....especially over the course of about 10k years. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4882963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelancholic Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Apparently Morty is a Psyker who knows three powers from Contagion, can cast two and deny three. I mean...doesn't the guy like hate psykers. Like...more than any other primarch. Still I guess it makes sense, all Primarchs are meant to have psychic potential and Morty might have softened his views considering...you know...he's a Daemon Prince now. Yeah and he also used to be fighting for the IoM, be loyal, not mutated/daemonized and so on. The warp does weird stuff to you....especially over the course of about 10k years. Very true. There was also that weird drunken bender he had after fighting the Khan on Prospero where he started dabbling in sorcery before deciding that sorcery was for chumps. He seems to have changed his views again although...that might have something more to do with joining Chaos. I mean...sorcery is mainly looked at with disdain because it is a pathway to corruption. Mortarion is...well...he's probably a bit further than corrupted at this point, so why not use go the whole hog and start using magic right? Unless you worship Khorne of course...in which case you'll be getting an angry flesh-hound in the mail. Anyway, long story short I get Morty is a psyker now. Makes sense. Please...just...GW, don't make Angeron a psyker if you give him rules further down the track. If you read the Black Crusade sourcebooks (and take FFG fluff as canon) then Khorne does allow psykers to work for him. They just aren't allowed to use their psychic powers at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4882974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterkho Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 idea for 2k: Detachment 1 (3CP) Necrosius Malignant caster 18 poxwalkers 5 plaguemarines 5 plaguemarines detachment 2 (1CP) Typhus Kharybdis Blightdrone blightdrone detachment 3 alpha legion(1CP) chaos lord hell brute with twin lascannon decimator with 2 butchercannons 3X heavy bolter rapier unit. the alpa legion detachment stays behind, 2 plague marine squads defending them to push out deep strikers. Drones are flanking and grabbing objectives the pox walkers with sorcerers are in the kharybdis and typhus is joining them. The charybdis can take a dreadnought equivalent out in 1 turn with his melta attack. and with all sorcerers and typhus bunched up with the pox walkers you get massive mortal wounds splurging around... jay or nay? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4882990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I guess it shows how corrupted Morty now is. He hated Pyskers but after falling to Chaos he has become one. Also he might see it as spreading Nurgles gifts rather then sorcery like what Magnus does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGuy Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Morty doesn't see himself as a Psyker. In the new short story that came out as part of the summer of reading he says that he is a scientist and uses numerology to shape reality as he wishes. The daemon he talks to remarks that this sounds a lot like psychic powers but Morty vehemently denies. So yes Morty is a Psyker but he doesn't view himself as one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Morty doesn't see himself as a Psyker. In the new short story that came out as part of the summer of reading he says that he is a scientist and uses numerology to shape reality as he wishes. The daemon he talks to remarks that this sounds a lot like psychic powers but Morty vehemently denies. So yes Morty is a Psyker but he doesn't view himself as one. So....kinda like Space Wolve Runepriests. Gotta love the 40k universe. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Got ourselves the rules and some art for our new little scuttlebugs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 a little surprised they dont have any weapon options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 also affectionately known as Stink Tanks. Or Stanks for short ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Man, I love those little guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasadarMadBear Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 While I think these haulers are awesome, I'm a little bummed they don't have any options for exchanging the missile launcher and multimelta for plague weapons of some kind. Still plan on getting at least 1 for that 7" cover bubble though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yeah it's kinda sad they don't have more than just that one weapon loadout but it's still an awesome unit imo. I'd always take three of them in my army just because. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'm in love with them. I'll be taking three most of the time along with at least one mower-drone. They're all so damn *cute*. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Can anyone imagine their Lord playing "fetch" with thier Blight Hauler.... Admittedly he's hurling a rather put out Pox walker but that's by the by. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I will start with 1 (or maybe even a proxy) to see how that plays. After that I will try a unit of 3. I wonder how much their kit is going to cost, because I can very easily convert them out of plaguedrones glued on to kataphron tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Unsure if it's been posted elsewhere, but Deathshroud are 35 quid, which means for other countries they should be priced equivalently to Scarab Occult Terminators. Slightly more expensive than Aggressors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Kinda sad the haulers are tracked and don't have feet (though that Nurgle snail from blightwar could be good conversion opportunity to give them feet, Death Shroud sound expensive though for how gorgeous the kits are I'm sure they'll be worth it :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Unsure if it's been posted elsewhere, but Deathshroud are 35 quid, which means for other countries they should be priced equivalently to Scarab Occult Terminators. Slightly more expensive than Aggressors. It's also the same price as the Exalted Sorcerers. Hopefully they come with a similar amount of customization options too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Unsure if it's been posted elsewhere, but Deathshroud are 35 quid, which means for other countries they should be priced equivalently to Scarab Occult Terminators. Slightly more expensive than Aggressors. It's also the same price as the Exalted Sorcerers. Hopefully they come with a similar amount of customization options too. ermmm scarabs come in boxes of 5 not boxes of 3. Deathshroud are much much more expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ermmm scarabs come in boxes of 5 not boxes of 3. Deathshroud are much much more expensive. I am... unsure about what your point is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ermmm scarabs come in boxes of 5 not boxes of 3. Deathshroud are much much more expensive. I am... unsure about what your point is? I am sayin the points and the wallet be tight with kits like these man >.< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Note that the Stink Tanks have a pretty high chance to explode, which deters keeping units in their aura range. However, since they are a 3 model unit, they are a great target for psychic buffs and stratagems. Makes a good fire magnet! Give them the -1 to be hit power, then keep them healed with Grandfather's Blessing Stratagem or with a Herald's healing power. People won't be able to resist trying to pop them. Bring some characters for re-rolls to hit and they're a solid fire base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Has there been indication on whether or not DG will be limited in what they can take from Imperial Armor Chaos index? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/18/#findComment-4883521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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