New codex coming this year...

[Indefragable]

Stormhawk, but not Stormtalon would be infuriatingly frustrating. Unless we get some special bird?

 

Hunter/Stalker = good for the like 2 people on Planet Earth who are interested (not knockin’ if if you are, just I don’t think anyone really actually ever uses those).

 

Inferno pistol for 9pta is actually completely fair. It’s literally half a melta gun so it might as well cost literally half the points (rounded up).

 

Unless they re-worked the hand flamer, 3pts is still too much. Compare a stormbter that gets 4x S4 shots at 12”...for 2pts...to a 8” D3 S3 pistol for 3pts. Still not worth it. (As I’ve griped a hundred times before) D6 S3 or D3 S4 and maybe we’re talking.

 

Here’s hoping that there’s entries for post-DoB Dante and Mephiston.

 

Hidden Content

Lord Commander Nihilus Dante

12” BS2+ WS2+ S4 T4 W8 A8 Ld10 Sv2+

3++

 

 

Sorry, the above came off negative. Just first thoughts. I’m pumped to see what the book contains. <everything crossed>

Edited November 23, 2017 by Indefragable

[Lord_Caerolion]

I can just imagine the Lamenters getting their Primaris Marines...

 

"Oh, so they told you they cured the Flaw too? They told us the same thing, and let me fill you in on the history of our Chapter..."

[Jorre]

If Inferno pistols are 9 points down from 20.... Well thats at least a 11 point drop for Dante. That would be a good start!

[Quixus]

Basket hilts make a lot of sense for us given the whole Italian Renaissance motif we have. I'm a little surprised we haven't seen them before that I can think of.

There are quite a few already:

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/blood-angels-death-company-chainsword-p-1884

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/space-marine-commander-chainsword-p-2134

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/space-wolves-grey-hunters-chainsword-p-901

[sebs_evo7]

Access to new units is interesting. I know im probably in the minority but assault centurions please!

Also can't wait to read some primaris fluff for when they start falling to the flaw

[TheHarrower]

 

 

Was hoping for some spoilers for my birthday. Mischief managed. THANKS Harrower!

 

Glad I could help. Happy Birthday!

 

So the only other thing I could glean from the design commentary article is they mentioned that there were no Death Company Primaris yet, and it appears that the flaw was cured. There was also a similar line for the Dark Angels about Death Wing and if they could be trusted with the Chapters darkest secrets. The feeling I got from that is that there is more Primaris stuff coming for both armies down the road.

 

 

And the goodies keep on coming! Do you know if the White Dwarf will be release with any special miniatures for BA or DA?

 

 

What do you mean by special? We are just getting the new Primaris Lieutenant, Primaris Upgrade Kit, and the standard stuff (Codex, cards, and dice). Dark Angels release is essentially the same. There was a pic of a box that said Blood Angels Intercessors, but I'm pretty sure it just included the upgrade kit. No pic of the dice and it said the symbols are on the 1.

[TheHarrower]

Stormhawk, but not Stormtalon would be infuriatingly frustrating. Unless we get some special bird?

 

Hunter/Stalker = good for the like 2 people on Planet Earth who are interested (not knockin’ if if you are, just I don’t think anyone really actually ever uses those).

 

Inferno pistol for 9pta is actually completely fair. It’s literally half a melta gun so it might as well cost literally half the points (rounded up).

 

Unless they re-worked the hand flamer, 3pts is still too much. Compare a stormbter that gets 4x S4 shots at 12”...for 2pts...to a 8” D3 S3 pistol for 3pts. Still not worth it. (As I’ve griped a hundred times before) D6 S3 or D3 S4 and maybe we’re talking.

 

Here’s hoping that there’s entries for post-DoB Dante and Mephiston.

 

I don't think we are getting a special bird. I bet they just forgot and left it out.

 

I wanted the Hunter and Stalker so bad in the beginning of 6th when flyers were an issue. Now I couldn't care less. Just looked over their stats. I would never take either of those. They look nice though.

 

On the points for Infernus Pistol and Hand Flamer, keep in mind that is for Sisters from Chapter Approved. The price could be different for us. I agree on the Hand Flamer. I'd prefer S4.

[Indefragable]

Speaking of LT’s....I’m a documented um...non-fan...of the New Coke Primaris SM, so a special Primmy LT has me colored completely non-excited.

 

That being said, if we don’t get a regular LT that can take jump pack or bike like Codex: SM then we are going to remain far down the power totem pole.

[Jorre]

LT with jump pack would be A+

[TheHarrower]

Speaking of LT’s....I’m a documented um...non-fan...of the New Coke Primaris SM, so a special Primmy LT has me colored completely non-excited.

 

That being said, if we don’t get a regular LT that can take jump pack or bike like Codex: SM then we are going to remain far down the power totem pole.

 

No reason to get excited. The model is what you would expect for a Primaris Lieutenant. The sword is really cool though. Unless he has some really good rules though, he is a pass for me.

 

I didn't realize we couldn't do a regular Lieutenant until just the other day. I thought they were in the Index. I'm sure they get added.

[Brother Crimson]

Meh named lieutenant, I was hoping for a new sanguinor or Lord Commander Dante, Warden of the imperium nihilus or DC primaris.

 

That being said I’m still really looking forward the book.

[bushman101]

I for one am happy to get access to the Hunter/Stalker tanks.Sometimes you need a nanti-flyer option that isn't a flyer itself.

[Morticon]

Hey all. 

Please, lets not kill the goose that laid the golden egg, so to speak.  Asking the poster to account for or at least put their rep on the line for the rumour is one (totally acceptable) thing, but asking them to reveal a trusted source is entirely another - especially given the risks involved. 

 

[TheHarrower]

I for one am happy to get access to the Hunter/Stalker tanks.Sometimes you need a nanti-flyer option that isn't a flyer itself.

 

A Hunter is basically an 11W T8 3+ Lascannon with a 60" range that rerolls misses for 75 points and hits Flyers on a 2+. That I would definitely take. I don't like the Stalker. The -1 to hit everything stinks even though it is putting out 6 shots.

[Indefragable]

 

 

I for one am happy to get access to the Hunter/Stalker tanks.Sometimes you need a nanti-flyer option that isn't a flyer itself.

A Hunter is basically an 11W T8 3+ Lascannon with a 60" range that rerolls misses for 75 points and hits Flyers on a 2+. That I would definitely take. I don't like the Stalker. The -1 to hit everything stinks even though it is putting out 6 shots.

...well there you go. The 2 people on earth excited by BA getting the Hunter/Stalker :p

[Pendent]

The symbol is seriously on the 1 for the new dice? Seriously? I've been in the market for a good set and apparently I'm going to get to keep looking...

[sebs_evo7]

Looks like leaks of sly from the new WD. Hopefully we'll get some of the Ba stuff soon

[Indefragable]

The symbol is seriously on the 1 for the new dice? Seriously? I've been in the market for a good set and apparently I'm going to get to keep looking...

No kidding. I’m not sure who I am more mad at:

 

-the GW folks for not hearing the backlash about how dumb it is to have the “good” part on the 1

-or all the folks who BUY those sets with the symbol on the 1, thus encouraging GW to keep doing it

[Lord_Caerolion]

They're "encouragement dice", they show who you've let down every time the symbol is shown, to encourage you to fail less in the future.

[9x19 Parabellum]

I for one am happy to get access to the Hunter/Stalker tanks.Sometimes you need a nanti-flyer option that isn't a flyer itself.

A Hunter is basically an 11W T8 3+ Lascannon with a 60" range that rerolls misses for 75 points and hits Flyers on a 2+. That I would definitely take. I don't like the Stalker. The -1 to hit everything stinks even though it is putting out 6 shots.

...well there you go. The 2 people on earth excited by BA getting the Hunter/Stalker

Make it 3. I like the Hunter too (not the stalker). Here's proof (RG, but still)

[NTaW]

I'll take more guns that fit on a Rhino chassis as well.

[The Unseen]

 

 

 

I for one am happy to get access to the Hunter/Stalker tanks.Sometimes you need a nanti-flyer option that isn't a flyer itself.

A Hunter is basically an 11W T8 3+ Lascannon with a 60" range that rerolls misses for 75 points and hits Flyers on a 2+. That I would definitely take. I don't like the Stalker. The -1 to hit everything stinks even though it is putting out 6 shots.

...well there you go. The 2 people on earth excited by BA getting the Hunter/Stalker :p

If the hunter got 2 shots, I would consider it.

But when you can spend 1.5 times the points and get 4x the firepower in the not all that effecient quad Las predator, it shows poorly.

It pays to much for the chassis for its low damage output.

Something that a lot of marine units have an issue with, and it isn't anywhere near the worst example, but it doesn't help.

[Xenith]

 

The symbol is seriously on the 1 for the new dice? Seriously? I've been in the market for a good set and apparently I'm going to get to keep looking...

No kidding. I’m not sure who I am more mad at:

 

-the GW folks for not hearing the backlash about how dumb it is to have the “good” part on the 1

-or all the folks who BUY those sets with the symbol on the 1, thus encouraging GW to keep doing it

 

 

If they put the symbol on the six they would get backlash from the waac guys as having a large cutout on one side and not on the other unbalances the die. The icon goes on the 1 side so that equal amounts of material are drilled from each side, keeping the weight the same. Not that it really matters, just that GW can never win.

 

I think the thousand Sons dice were prefect. Skull on the one, legion icon on the six.

[Panzer]

 

 

The symbol is seriously on the 1 for the new dice? Seriously? I've been in the market for a good set and apparently I'm going to get to keep looking...

No kidding. I’m not sure who I am more mad at:

 

-the GW folks for not hearing the backlash about how dumb it is to have the “good” part on the 1

-or all the folks who BUY those sets with the symbol on the 1, thus encouraging GW to keep doing it

 

 

If they put the symbol on the six they would get backlash from the waac guys as having a large cutout on one side and not on the other unbalances the die. The icon goes on the 1 side so that equal amounts of material are drilled from each side, keeping the weight the same. Not that it really matters, just that GW can never win.

 

I think the thousand Sons dice were prefect. Skull on the one, legion icon on the six.

 

Eh that would be a really odd reason considering that not all cutouts are the same size either. It's more likely that it's just a dumb design decision and now they are either stubborn and stick with it or produced so many in advance that they can't switch it easily.

 

Skull on 1 and special thing on 6 indeed is perfect tho but likely also more expensive to produce I guess.

[Xenith]

 

Skull on 1 and special thing on 6 indeed is perfect tho but likely also more expensive to produce I guess.

 

More expensive, maybe, but it's not like GW will be the ones who are paying for them!

 

Storm hawk. I'm happy for this. I also have a stalker/hunter on sprues somewhere that I was going to convert to a damocles, however since I got the Rhino Primaris, it might become a hunter.