Petragor Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Petragor and Adesro - I would encourage you both to requisition a fire selector for your combi-meltas. Particularly in Maladon's case, as I assume you will choose to replace the bolter with the combi-melta. Having the fire selector gives you greater flexibility when it comes to your Special Issue Ammunition. I don't have special-issue ammunition, I'm an Assault Marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 All Marines can Requisition it. The benefit is, that it costs half for your pistol :) MR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petragor Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I'll just stick to normal thanks. Although, another modification might be nice. @CM would a red-dot sight work on a Combibolter with Melta? The base modification can't be used with meltaguns, but I'm not sure if this counts... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I demand you fire it on Maximal. ALL the time. MR. I was planning on that, sure one shot every other round, and it's an ammo hog, but well things will die. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I was planning on that, sure one shot every other round, and it's an ammo hog, but well things will die. This is truly the way. MR. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just as a note, Steel - you are starting to become a little over-encumbered. (Perhaps not rules-wise, but it does strain my credulity somewhat...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I know CM, about the last space I can think of is the small of the back, but even then I'm not sure about actually going for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Reconsidering my choices given how much requisition he have at our disposal: flamer or plasma pistol, I wonder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Plasma pistol! No marine sidearm is more stylish. Lysimachus and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Plasma pistol! No marine sidearm is more stylish. ;)Agreed, plus bonus style points if it's the elegant looking Heresy era version like in the MkIV Tac Squad set... Edit: What kind of things might we want to club together for, Swordhand? I'm guessing it's mostly the big stuff like if the Devs want to carry alternative heavy weapons? (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in jest, but I do think Vorr would look pretty cool carrying Akkad's Cadence, and 40 Req doesn't sound too bad between all of us?) Also, I know I took Demo off of Titus' sheet as one of the losses to pay for Guerilla Training, but did Vorkys keep it? If so, could be worth clubbing together and gifting our Sgt with one for the mission? (That said, it seems like we've got a few combi-meltas on the squad already so it might not be needed...) Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) Decided to adjust my refund xp purchases: - Awareness +10 - 400 xp - Dodge +10 - 400 xp - Lore: Forbidden (Adeptus Astartes) +10 - 400 xp - Rapid Reload - 300 xp 1500 xp total Edited March 7, 2021 by Necronaut Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) Edit: What kind of things might we want to club together for, Swordhand? I'm guessing it's mostly the big stuff like if the Devs want to carry alternative heavy weapons? (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in jest, but I do think Vorr would look pretty cool carrying Akkad's Cadence, and 40 Req doesn't sound too bad between all of us?) Also, I know I took Demo off of Titus' sheet as one of the losses to pay for Guerilla Training, but did Vorkys keep it? If so, could be worth clubbing together and gifting our Sgt with one for the mission? (That said, it seems like we've got a few combi-meltas on the squad already so it might not be needed...) If Reyner would like to get his hands on Cadence, I'd be happy to donate those 20 Req I'd use for a Motion Predictor otherwise. I'm fairly content toting a heavy bolter for now! That said, I also took a peek at the bulkhead shears from Rites of Battle, which look really, really scary stat-wise. They could get us through locked doors in the shipwrecks we may end up exploring and can be carried by any one of us - no Demolition skill needed. This assumes that Mol is okay with us using RoB weapons, of course. Edited March 7, 2021 by AHorriblePerson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Edit: What kind of things might we want to club together for, Swordhand? I'm guessing it's mostly the big stuff like if the Devs want to carry alternative heavy weapons? (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in jest, but I do think Vorr would look pretty cool carrying Akkad's Cadence, and 40 Req doesn't sound too bad between all of us?) Also, I know I took Demo off of Titus' sheet as one of the losses to pay for Guerilla Training, but did Vorkys keep it? If so, could be worth clubbing together and gifting our Sgt with one for the mission? (That said, it seems like we've got a few combi-meltas on the squad already so it might not be needed...) If Reyner would like to get his hands on Cadence, I'd be happy to donate those 20 Req I'd use for a Motion Predictor otherwise. I'm fairly content toting a heavy bolter for now! That said, I also took a peek at the bulkhead shears from Rites of Battle, which look really, really scary stat-wise. They could get us through locked doors in the shipwrecks we may end up exploring and can be carried by any one of us - no Demolition skill needed. This assumes that Mol is okay with us using RoB weapons, of course. Need to convince your resident tech marine to spring for the breaching augur for maximum rip & tear. ;) Deadass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 After taking time t think on it more CM, Tyber's equipment load: Standard equipment: Arming Sword (Sig Wargear) Harvest (Sig Wargear) Sonnet (Bolt Pistol) Krak Grenades (3) Frag Grenades (3) Requisition equipment: Plasma Pistol (25 Rec.) That should leave an extra 20 for Blackthorn to work with. Does that look good to you CM? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Edit: What kind of things might we want to club together for, Swordhand? I'm guessing it's mostly the big stuff like if the Devs want to carry alternative heavy weapons? (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in jest, but I do think Vorr would look pretty cool carrying Akkad's Cadence, and 40 Req doesn't sound too bad between all of us?) Also, I know I took Demo off of Titus' sheet as one of the losses to pay for Guerilla Training, but did Vorkys keep it? If so, could be worth clubbing together and gifting our Sgt with one for the mission? (That said, it seems like we've got a few combi-meltas on the squad already so it might not be needed...) If Reyner would like to get his hands on Cadence, I'd be happy to donate those 20 Req I'd use for a Motion Predictor otherwise. I'm fairly content toting a heavy bolter for now! That said, I also took a peek at the bulkhead shears from Rites of Battle, which look really, really scary stat-wise. They could get us through locked doors in the shipwrecks we may end up exploring and can be carried by any one of us - no Demolition skill needed. This assumes that Mol is okay with us using RoB weapons, of course. Need to convince your resident tech marine to spring for the breaching augur for maximum rip & tear. I thought about bringing that up, but wouldn't adesro need a Servo-Harness to carry it comfortably? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Edit: What kind of things might we want to club together for, Swordhand? I'm guessing it's mostly the big stuff like if the Devs want to carry alternative heavy weapons? (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in jest, but I do think Vorr would look pretty cool carrying Akkad's Cadence, and 40 Req doesn't sound too bad between all of us?) Also, I know I took Demo off of Titus' sheet as one of the losses to pay for Guerilla Training, but did Vorkys keep it? If so, could be worth clubbing together and gifting our Sgt with one for the mission? (That said, it seems like we've got a few combi-meltas on the squad already so it might not be needed...) If Reyner would like to get his hands on Cadence, I'd be happy to donate those 20 Req I'd use for a Motion Predictor otherwise. I'm fairly content toting a heavy bolter for now! That said, I also took a peek at the bulkhead shears from Rites of Battle, which look really, really scary stat-wise. They could get us through locked doors in the shipwrecks we may end up exploring and can be carried by any one of us - no Demolition skill needed. This assumes that Mol is okay with us using RoB weapons, of course. Need to convince your resident tech marine to spring for the breaching augur for maximum rip & tear. I thought about bringing that up, but wouldn't adesro need a Servo-Harness to carry it comfortably? Pretty sure that's what Techmarines come with out of the tin, ain't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 They get the servo arm, the full rigging comes later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) I looked it up, and it seems like they don't - Techmarine-specific starting equipment consists of their boltgun, a servo-arm which is specified as being part of their power armor and one cybernetic replacement. A harness would cost Maladon 50 Req and he'd need renown level 'Famed'.Edit - got ninja'd by SC! Edited March 8, 2021 by AHorriblePerson Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Sorry about that AHP, I just happened to be checking in at that time. Deadass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 All good, man. But yeah! My vote's on the Bulkhead Shears. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Should be able to, we had them on the last mission. Deadass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Ah my mistake! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) You can, technically, replace the Servo-Arm with a Breaching Augur if the GM allows it (I, personally, wouldnt pre-rank 4 after the experiences Ive had with it); I was able to in a previous game a good 5 years back now where we wouldn't be needing the arm to repair or lift things. The main reason being that, while it is a cybernetic, its attached to you via your Power Armor and the only thing you were replacing was the head of the tool itself. The Techmarine really comes online at Rank 4, however, when they have access to making their own suit of Artificer Armor, the Forge Lord specialization and access to a Servo-Harness. Bonus points for loading up on THE FLESH IS WEAK, among other things, and walking around with AP values nearing, if not surpassing, TDA (minus the forcefield). Couple it with a high toughness bonus and I have been able to make characters with damage reduction in the 40s (before AP and other mods). Edited March 8, 2021 by Slips Steel Company, Deadass and Necronaut 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 And then add in auto sanguine for self heals and laugh your rear off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Steel - Plasma pistol is fine, even if you are going full Cypher..! AHP - I'm happy for a Swordhand member to requisition Bulkhead Shears. They are bulky (effectively a two-handed weapon) and so this is something that should be kept in mind. Edited March 8, 2021 by Commissar Molotov Deadass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/253/#findComment-5675648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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