Indefragable Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I've been theoryhammering a ton recently, and Warriors --unless get dropped to like ~10pts/ea--have become more and more like IG Conscripts or Infantry Squads: either take big giant blobs of them or keep them and cheap and minimal threat for sitting on back objectives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5034825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I've been theoryhammering a ton recently, and Warriors --unless get dropped to like ~10pts/ea--have become more and more like IG Conscripts or Infantry Squads: either take big giant blobs of them or keep them and cheap and minimal threat for sitting on back objectives. I think 5 tessla immortals make better objective campers. I have found a use in my list for 15ish Warriors. They make a good anchor or anvil unit with a little character support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5034843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I've been theoryhammering a ton recently, and Warriors --unless get dropped to like ~10pts/ea--have become more and more like IG Conscripts or Infantry Squads: either take big giant blobs of them or keep them and cheap and minimal threat for sitting on back objectives.  I'd only use Warriors in a list which also includes a Ghost Ark and a Cryptek with Chronometron (and the immune to morale-Warlord Trait on something nearby, possibly the same Cryptek.)  40-60 Warriors with a 4+/5++ and who reanimates on a 4+ with reroll. If your opponent targets the Ghost Ark play the Quantum Shielding-Stratagem.  Not unkillable by any means, but damn hard to remove for many lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5034857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Sautekh and more: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/19/preview-the-sautekh-dynasty-tomb-blades-and-the-catacomb-command-bargegw-homepage-post-2/ Â Nothing ground-breaking, but it confirms more of the beta dex leak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 I think I'm OK with pretty much everything in the beta leak, though points costs for a few units could certainly be shifted to make them more relevant. Hopefully we see that shift up a bit (looks hard at Monolith). Either way it's heartening to see more wording confirmed by WC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 We definitely need some strong shooting of sorts...it kinda seems like they forgot that we can't glance everything to death anymore. Â That and Transport options for non-aligned characters. Â And points drops to make things like Warriors and Immortals worthwhile....if Tomb Blades are as good as they seem to be and get a points drop....there's almost no reason to run Immortals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 We definitely need some strong shooting of sorts...it kinda seems like they forgot that we can't glance everything to death anymore. Â That and Transport options for non-aligned characters. Â And points drops to make things like Warriors and Immortals worthwhile....if Tomb Blades are as good as they seem to be and get a points drop....there's almost no reason to run Immortals. except that immortals are regular troops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 if Tomb Blades are as good as they seem to be and get a points drop....there's almost no reason to run Immortals. Â Well, they're Troops and way less susceptible to multi-wound attacks. They are also <Infantry> for abilities/stratagems that affect infantry but not bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Quesnel Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hi, I’m new to necrons but not to 40k, I’ve been playing emperor’s children and slaanesh deamons for a while now and I’d like to start a Necron Army as the new codex is arriving. I’ve looked at the leaks and realy like the sauthek, mephrit and nephrekh dynastic codes. Especially the nephrekh one. I’d like to build a 2000 points army to begin with, but have no idea of what to buy. So what would you suggest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hi, I’m new to necrons but not to 40k, I’ve been playing emperor’s children and slaanesh deamons for a while now and I’d like to start a Necron Army as the new codex is arriving. I’ve looked at the leaks and realy like the sauthek, mephrit and nephrekh dynastic codes. Especially the nephrekh one. I’d like to build a 2000 points army to begin with, but have no idea of what to buy. So what would you suggest? The necron half of the Forgebane and the new Necron getting started box they've teased would get you a solid base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5035729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer1st Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Will they release the new cryptek model seperate from forgebane at some point. I'm currently in need of 2 but not the rest of the set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 They likely will but it's too soon to say for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Will they release the new cryptek model seperate from forgebane at some point. I'm currently in need of 2 but not the rest of the set. The armiger's and Cryptek is what will drive foregebane sales. I wouldn't expect to see the separated out for several months. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/20/preview-the-mephrit-dynasty-and-destroyersgw-homepage-post-2/ Â Here's the preview for today! Much like yesterday, this confirms more of the goodies from the leaked beta codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/20/preview-the-mephrit-dynasty-and-destroyersgw-homepage-post-2/ Â Here's the preview for today! Much like yesterday, this confirms more of the goodies from the leaked beta codex. Â On one hand it warms the heart to think I was already building up an Assassin-CCB and Destroyer Armada Mephrit force when this came out. Â On the other hand, it rankles to think that so many other folks will look at that build and be like "oh...copying Warhammer Community, eh?" Â Oh well. Â #1stworldproblems Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I mean the rules were clearly made to go together. I don't care if people think I got the idea from somewhere else or not, I just want to taste those tears when their warlord dies again and again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer1st Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I kind of agree, but that set up is too good to pass up. Though i personally prefer my destroyers in a nephrekh outrider for deep strike shenanigans XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Hello, is there an exact release date as of yet? Â I have a friend that I am likely to get the new Necron Codex for, as, he is a great friend, and he may literally forget to pick up the book in a timely manner. Â Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Hello, is there an exact release date as of yet? Â I have a friend that I am likely to get the new Necron Codex for, as, he is a great friend, and he may literally forget to pick up the book in a timely manner. Â Thanks. You can pre-order this Saturday and it comes out the following Saturday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Â Hello, is there an exact release date as of yet? Â I have a friend that I am likely to get the new Necron Codex for, as, he is a great friend, and he may literally forget to pick up the book in a timely manner. Â Thanks. You can pre-order this Saturday and it comes out the following Saturday. Â Â Thank you, I will let my local game store know I am going to buy a copy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Today's preview still has no surprises for us: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/21/preview-the-novokh-dynasty-flayed-ones-and-canoptek-wraithsgw-homepage-post-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Novokh is such a beautifully straightforward play style. Â 1. Get Flayed Ones and Lychguard w/ Scythes 2. Get as close the enemy as possible 3. Chop Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Yeah this one looks fun to play at least once in a blue moon. Don't know if it'll be my go-to (but I could be surprised), but I like a lot of our cc stuff so I'll use it sometimes for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Today's preview still has no surprises for us: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/21/preview-the-novokh-dynasty-flayed-ones-and-canoptek-wraithsgw-homepage-post-2/ I doubt any of them will. Any surprise changes will likely be limited to point cost adjustments or minor wording tweeks. Â The downside of an actual unanticipated leak of a complete Dex is that it makes the spoiler week leadup pretty dull. This is the first clearly unintentional leak GW has had in a long time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5036966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm looking forward to having my Destroyer Lord and Destroyers head a Novokh Outrider Detachment full of Scarabs and Wraiths. Alternately I could play my Overlord heading the same Detachment with Lychguard. Either way, stabby bits are getting stabbier soon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343769-new-codex-new-cryptek/page/6/#findComment-5037211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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