golfdeltafoxtrot Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Damn that’s sweet. Wish I could get hold of the one without the beak for my Primaris Inceptor / Shrike conversion. Thanks dude. I think they’re out of stock of a lot of stuff post-sale, but supposedly it’s all going to come back at some point soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5020967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
varchilde Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 tact marines with HB and storm bolter are great for board control and making up requirements for detachments. They are only 77pts and have reasonable firepower and survivability. They can just hold ground and denial of deep striking zones is crucial in 8th. Late to the party on this one. Don't forget the Hellfire Shell Stratagem on that Heavy Bolter. No one is going to expect Mortal Wounds from a Tac squad! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Very fine work You've made a great start.... I really like the poses and the kit bash work. Can't wait to see them painted.....hmmm ...... I guess I'll have to wait seeing as I'm not painting them Keep up the good work and welcome back to the hobby! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Very fine work You've made a great start.... I really like the poses and the kit bash work. Can't wait to see them painted.....hmmm ...... I guess I'll have to wait seeing as I'm not painting them Keep up the good work and welcome back to the hobby! Thanks Lunkhead. I’m nearly done with assembly for now, just finishing the last tactical marine then got a lascannon Devastator to do. Painting is going to be delayed as a result of imminent freezing temperatures and snow here at home, then a week of scorching temperatures and cold beer on holiday in Mexico. Painting will follow after that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I'm leaning more toward Company Veterans over Sternguard these days. I'm equipping mine with storm bolters nd chainswords using some nifty over/under storm bolters I found on Shapeways (they look like the guns the Alpha Legion Seekers come with) with chain-bayonets mounted. Same points cost as a barebones Sternguard squad. Slightly less range and AP but more shots, and 3 attacks each because the whole squad has chainswords. And the best part: They can soak wounds for any character within 3" of the squad on a 2+. I lose 6" of range and -2 SO in exchange for 20 bolter shots inside 12" and 16 CQC attacks for a 5 man squad. That can also soak wounds for characters. No brainer in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Which SBs? My current supply is metal and static (read boring). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 These: https://www.shapeways.com/product/5HY5MDBJK/10x-rapfire-tb2d-assault?optionId=64572963&li=marketplace They have scoped and normal variants too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ohhh, they have stabby things. That's how you know they're good guns. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ohhh, they have stabby things. That's how you know they're good guns. :tu: I'm using them as counts-as chainswords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Egads that's brilliant! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 tact marines with HB and storm bolter are great for board control and making up requirements for detachments. They are only 77pts and have reasonable firepower and survivability. They can just hold ground and denial of deep striking zones is crucial in 8th. Late to the party on this one. Don't forget the Hellfire Shell Stratagem on that Heavy Bolter. No one is going to expect Mortal Wounds from a Tac squad! As lackluster as C:SM Stratagem are, this is an easily underestimated one. With how prominent hordes are, you've plenty of reason to take Heavy Bolters in the first place. If an opponent is accommodating enough to leave a juicy target available for a mortal wound or three, who are you to neglect such generosity? Now if only the damn things weren't restricted to infantry...oh well. Like I said, lackluster. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Assembly completed, for now at least. Managed to do my last Tactical marine and the new lascannon wielder for my Devastators. Pondering the inclusion of a second lieutenant, probably along the same lines as the first, given that they’re so cheap. Here’s the finished Tactical Squad, ready to secure objectives and put out a lot of bolt rounds. Good point about the Hellfire Stratagem guys, will add that to the short list of non-useless Stratagems. The completed Devastator Squad. Bit of a mish-mash of weapons, but I figure they can easily split fire and engage multiple targets as appropriate. And finally a group shot of Task Force Umbra as it stands. Thanks for all the comments and encouragement so far - I’m going to need more of that during painting! I’ll look into Company Veterans too, and as badass as those storm bolters are they’re going to be prohibitively expensive to obtain in the UK. I’ll look round for others if I need a shooty-doom Squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Look into Alpha Legion Seekers from Forgeworld. Their guns inspired the over/under design of the Shapeways ones. Edit: Oops, it was Headhunters. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Alpha-Legion-Head-Hunter-Kill-Team-Upgrade-Set Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 They're pretty cool bolters, though obviously I'm hesitant to shell out £26 for 5 of them. I doubt they'd be too difficult to make though, given enough bolters and a bit of thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviler Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 A simple way to paint black is a black spray based heavy dry brush in storm vermin dirge and then a coat of nuln wash. That deals with all the bulk of the armourcthen it’s just details and transfers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5021990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 A simple way to paint black is a black spray based heavy dry brush in storm vermin dirge and then a coat of nuln wash. That deals with all the bulk of the armourcthen it’s just details and transfers I’ve seen a video like that, it’s lools pretty easy for a painting noob like me. I’m going with Army Painter Matt Black for my base, so that I can easily repaint anything that gets a bit over-drybrushed before I wash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Now if only the damn things weren't restricted to infantry...oh well. Like I said, lackluster. :P Or just 1 model... HB devs become very scary when the whole squad gets it. ;) Models look great! Whens the painting happening? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Now if only the damn things weren't restricted to infantry...oh well. Like I said, lackluster. :POr just 1 model... HB devs become very scary when the whole squad gets it. ;) Models look great! Whens the painting happening? :D Thanks dude. Its currently -5C and threatening to snow this weekend, then I’m in Mexico for 10 days. So probably after that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 A simple way to paint black is a black spray based heavy dry brush in storm vermin dirge and then a coat of nuln wash. That deals with all the bulk of the armourcthen it’s just details and transfersI’ve seen a video like that, it’s lools pretty easy for a painting noob like me. I’m going with Army Painter Matt Black for my base, so that I can easily repaint anything that gets a bit over-drybrushed before I wash. I use Krylon Flat Black Paint + Primer. It looks pretty much identical to Chaos Black when dry and costs less than half the money. Krylon is a pretty big company, so you should be able to find some in the UK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 A simple way to paint black is a black spray based heavy dry brush in storm vermin dirge and then a coat of nuln wash. That deals with all the bulk of the armourcthen it’s just details and transfersI’ve seen a video like that, it’s lools pretty easy for a painting noob like me. I’m going with Army Painter Matt Black for my base, so that I can easily repaint anything that gets a bit over-drybrushed before I wash.I use Krylon Flat Black Paint + Primer. It looks pretty much identical to Chaos Black when dry and costs less than half the money. Krylon is a pretty big company, so you should be able to find some in the UK. I’ll have a look for it. I’ve already picked up the Army Painter stuff, but it’s always worth having other options. Next painting question - helmet lenses. Any colour advice? I’m pondering red, but I also want my scouts to have Splinter Cell-esque green glowing optics, which I might also use for all my scopes and I’m worried it might clash. Any ideas/tips? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Do what ever you want! My regular guys I do yellow My primaris I'm think blue I've found hitting the recess with some Ulthuan grey + coloured shade of your choice works quite well. :D :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5022708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviler Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I do red on my HH raven guard. Try painting gold first then the red gem stone technical paint. Easy and effective Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5023012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdeltafoxtrot Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Holiday is over, the snow has finally finished (I hope) so I've got no more excuses to not paint. Therefore, this happened this evening. It's the first time I've applied paint to model since 2005, so I'm hoping I don't balls it up. I went into my FLGS to buy some paints the other day (they were out of Leadbelcher, which was sad) so I picked up the base paints I'm going to need. The Reivers just sort of fell into my hands. I can't be blamed for buying more models. The models made me do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5039199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Good luck! :tu: The GW painting vids are always a good resource even for black and tips on white ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5039325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The wonder of black is that it goes with almost everything. Green and blue work very well, while red, orange and white are obviously good contrasts. The palette is literally yours :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344554-task-force-umbra-a-raven-guard-5th-company-wip/page/2/#findComment-5039554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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