Spinsanity Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Hopefully we'll have relic versions of every Questoris/Dominus chassis main weapons... Aaaaand with this I now wonder what rules the (if it exists) Relic-Harpoon has! Maybe that's why the weapon can't pull its opponent (although that would be a cheap way of diferentiating the regular harpoon from the relic) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 No last one is the preceptor. At least that's what the rumour sources have been saying. They've been pretty accurate so far. Freeblades are a keyword thing. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to have a dominus knight as a free blade etc. Oh yes the preceptor, I wonder what will be so special about that apart from the new laser weapon. 22 relics is good and all but it sounds like an awful lot considering you would use about 1-2 a game. Probably a few of them will be worth it too. Well given the the dfference between a paladin and an errant is the weapon, my guess is its just the weapon, potentially. Which I'm perfectly fine with since i just want the kit for the pilot, the unique looking bits and a new gun, but don't want to build him as the freeblade character Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushkilla Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/31/imperial-knights-building-your-champion/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Right on cue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Adamantum Knight is VERY interesting. I don't recall seeing anything like that before. Auto failure of any wound roll against you 50% of the time, regardless of the weapons strength. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Adamantum Knight Lancer Warlord with Landstrider. More and more I like the look of Vulker. Fitting 3 big knights and 6 Warglaives/Helverins into 2k... Maybe Gallants are about to make a comeback Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Adamantum Knight Lancer Warlord with Landstrider. More and more I like the look of Vulker. Fitting 3 big knights and 6 Warglaives/Helverins into 2k... Maybe Gallants are about to make a comeback this is LOT for 2K....maybe it'll be a little less. I'm thinking about 2 detachment of LoW, each 3 LoW. And for the rest, Admech with Enginseer to repair and take objo (vanguard with plasma) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Yeah, it hopes for a points drop on the lancer, but probably won't get it. I can hope. Definitely won't fit in 1750 for the GT heats :-( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Momotaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Rob at The Long War was reading from the codex on their last episode, confirmed that you'll be able to fire 2 Shieldbreaker Missles in a turn. Guessing it's another stratagem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Momotaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Points confirmed! Valiant with guns 595!! Castellan w/ guns 610!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Points confirmed! Valiant with guns 595!! Castellan w/ guns 610!!! where? others IK? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 that relic gatling o.O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Momotaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Helliger 170pts comes with 2 Armiger Autocannon 60" Hvy2d3 S7 AP-1 D3 ignores penalty for moving and firing HVY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 that relic gatling o.O Yeah....that would be a good one vs Necron vehicles...since you get lots of shots with 2D or less - harder for them to use their quantum shielding..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Momotaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Points confirmed! Valiant with guns 595!! Castellan w/ guns 610!!! where? others IK? The Long War episode 151 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Points confirmed! Valiant with guns 595!! Castellan w/ guns 610!!! Castellan more than the Valiant? That sounds odd to me, I'd expect that conflagration cannon being bonkers expensive.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 that relic gatling o.O Yeah....that would be a good one vs Necron vehicles...since you get lots of shots with 2D or less - harder for them to use their quantum shielding..... heavy 14, dam 2, 6's explode to an auto hit.... I see this as a required relic, its great at everything from killing massed troops to shredding the thickest armor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Do we have confirmation of crusader points? Is it 467? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 So 4 helivers and a castellan cost 1290. That's leaves 710 in 2k or 460 in 1750. So enough for an allied detachment at 1750 or one knight or a knight and allies at 2k. That seems good to me! Or no dominus knight and probably more little things....choices!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Hmm, looks like I'll need to go with 2 questoris/cerastus/dominus + 4 armiger if I want 6 bodies in a 1750pts list... Not that I expected 3+3 to be possible, but that'd have been pleasntly surprising Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 If a hellverin is 174... I can fit my 3x3 Helverin/Warglaive in 1750... Hehehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Momotaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Shielbreaker Missles are 12pts per hardpoint Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliomanes Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Very interested in seeing how the helverins end up comparing to the ironstrider balistarii. Again, stratagems etc will be everything.The plethora of customizable rulesets available through the freeblade options seem very promising. Again, stacking these bonuses with stratagems, relics, warlord traits etc can potentially produce the "go to" combinations people will use competitively. Will be very interesting to see what emerges in the coming days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Very interested in seeing how the helverins end up comparing to the ironstrider balistarii. Again, stratagems etc will be everything. (Inserts why not both gif) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Very interested in seeing how the helverins end up comparing to the ironstrider balistarii. Again, stratagems etc will be everything. (Inserts why not both gif) Does anyone know what the protector knight is? Would that likey be a weapon variation of the little guys? The Preceptor? No, it's based around the Questorus chassis seemingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/30/#findComment-5095254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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