Majkhel Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 @Majkhel When you add brown to your gold are you adding it directly to the mix or basing gold areas in brown first? Does the brown seem to make the gold area more accepting for washes and highlights rather than the thick..."coverage" the straight gold would? I'm adding brown to the gold and mix them. This gives me better coverage and usually limits the number of layers to max 2. As a basecoat I used anything really: black, red. Never used white/grey, but potentially those would give a brighter color (which I avoid as gold is shiny enough without it).As for washes- adding brown to the gold makes it softer, warmer. So I'd say, that shading with browns is easier as it adds to the already existing brown pigments. But I haven't experimented much with this, so I lack comparison really. @Charlo: I love the 'dirty' look of your knights! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Cheers dude - the weathered effect is what I'm going for! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 @Majkhel When you add brown to your gold are you adding it directly to the mix or basing gold areas in brown first? Does the brown seem to make the gold area more accepting for washes and highlights rather than the thick..."coverage" the straight gold would? I'm adding brown to the gold and mix them. This gives me better coverage and usually limits the number of layers to max 2. Used to be the standard way with the old shining gold to get a solid coat: 1:1 shining gold:scorched brown, to increase the pigment content. Retributor armour has largely done awa with my need to do this due to being a paint with a high pigment count already - goes straight over black in 2 coats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekfud Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think I posted it a while ago, but this is a quite interesting way of painting gold on a similar theme - http://theartofwarhammer.blogspot.com/2013/02/tutorial-painting-shiny-yellow-gold.html Using averland sunset as the base, then auric gold & washes to give a more antiqued look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I’m partial to using warplock bronze as my base for most of my gold and then auric armor as the highlight. Small details that I want picked out but not obviously so I like to use Gehenna’s gold. Once in a great while, I might lightly dry brush a layer of rune fang silver on top if I want it slightly lighter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Vow 2 Complete! B) https://i.imgur.com/rcLDjsF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4FPhPax.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Jy0Fvf6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6Kop8dl.jpg I am pretty happy with this guy, he turned out well by my standards. I might call him Jolemai... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Okay so I was going to say "no more WIPs until they're complete" but I can't keep you all out of the loop forever So here is some progress. Added in details, some weathering powder and started the basing. We're almost done now... To finish: Powder - not going to go OTT but I think some more rust on the weapons is needed. AK Oil/ Engine Grim effects - going to have some fun with these. Basing - shade, drybrush, tufts and barbed wire. Keep up the good work Charlo, she's looking fantastic! Summer classes are almost over which means I'll be able to finally finish this snail paced vow. Just a little update, I've gotten all the bases ready, one Inceptor completed, one Inceptor in need of cleaning up and washing and one that I haven't touched yet. Almost there :) Very clean work too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Vow 2 Complete! B) https://i.imgur.com/rcLDjsF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4FPhPax.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Jy0Fvf6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6Kop8dl.jpg I am pretty happy with this guy, he turned out well by my standards. I might call him Jolemai... ;) Honoured :blush: He looks gritty and imposing too - you wouldn't want to see him bearing down on you! Six weeks left, fancy another go? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Six weeks to go folks! Still lots of large outstanding vows, how's the progress going on those folks? Show us your WIPs, ask for advice, time to get that momentum rolling! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/ETL_VI_Top_Banner_.jpg ETL VI - WEEK 7 UPDATE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5109969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Honoured :blush: He looks gritty and imposing too - you wouldn't want to see him bearing down on you! Six weeks left, fancy another go? Haha! Now now... Thanks very much, it’s a great model actually I am really glad to have done it some justice. I have potentially 3 more vows don’t I? It might be wise to split the things I had in mind for Vow 3 up, in case I find myself short on time. I am pretty definitely going for at least one more Vow but need to check my RL schedule. Watch this space... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5110003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 The tufts to finish basing these won't turn up for a while so I'll call them done in case I want to vow anything else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5110025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I nearly forgot that I still have Inceptors to do... Anyway I declare them finished now, so last gathering of strenght to finish the Stormtalon. Basecoat and basic shading already done. Getting ready for metallics and the pilot.No matter the Valley of Procrastination! I WILL SEE THIS VOW COMPLETED! FOR SANGUINIUS!!EDIT: I've run out of decals Gotta resupply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5110123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 My progress: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5110319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas7 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Ok well if I don't stop now i'm going to nitpick my work and get myself down. I had some issues getting my paint to smooth out but for my level of skill that's not surprising, ended up adding steel sling shot ammo to my droppers to help mix the pigment that had settled. Over all I just need more practice but they are table top ready. Vow 1 Complete. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5110334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Great progress and completions guys! Keep the pace! @ Closet Skeleton: I assume the vow is complete although you did not explicitly say so. Let me know it I got it wrong. UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/ETL_VI_Top_Banner_.jpg ETL VI - WEEK 7 UPDATE http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/ETL_6_Poster_01_Announcement_V2.jpg +++ETL VI - WEEK 7 UPDATE+++ Week 7 is over, and we are officially past the middle point of the event! Currently we have collectively completed 71,402pts which is roughly 1/5 of the total points pledged. Overall 19k pts were completed in the week, and they were promptly replenished with new vows of equal value. As expected the Adeptus Astartes are in the lead but interestingly enough they are closely followed by the AoD with less than 400pts difference. Obviously the Astartes resources are vastly superior but that only matters if they complete their vows – something that historically has been a challenge. Be that as it may, Chaos and IFOR are pretty close too – although they have significant distance from the other two and Xenos are in the last position. Given the limited resources of the latter, it is imperative to achieve i) high completion rates especially among the first vows and ii) increase their re-vowing rate from 15% currently to at least double that. Let’s see in detail: E TENEBRAE LUX VI – Week 7 Faction/ForumParticipantsVowsPoints pledgedAvg. Vow Completions CRSCRAdeptus Astartes 185 234 153,505 65528,745 18.8% 5,390 Space Marines 6685 47,761 562 8,897 18.6% 1,657 Blood Angels 45 5938,972 661 7,078 18.2% 1,285 Dark Angels 45 53 37,452 707 7,445 19.9% 1,480 Space Wolves 29 37 29,120 787 5,32518.3% 947 IFOR 67 81 74,663 922 10,95314.7% 1,607 Adepta Sororitas 6 7 4,303 615 519 12.1% 63 AdMech 13 17 11,093 653 2,232 20.1% 449 Astra Militarum 21 26 20,888 803 4,863 23.3% 1,132 Imperial Agents 12 13 21,676 1,667 894 4.1% 37 Grey Knights 2 2 2,658 1,329 0 0% 0 Deathwatch 13 16 14,045 878 2,445 17.4% 426 Realm of Chaos 67 87 58,544 673 10,611 18.1% 1,923 Chaos Space Marines 55 72 44,715 621 8,690 19.4% 1,689 Chaos Daemons 4 5 4,145 829 738 17.8% 131 LatD 8 10 9,684 968 1,183 12.2% 145 Xenos 41 47 30,173 642 4,294 14.2% 611 Aeldari 10 11 3,492 317 718 20.6% 148 Necrons 10 12 7,507 626 1,787 23.8% 425 Orks 4 5 3,600 720 600 16.7% 100 T’au Empire 13 14 12,458 890 931 7.5% 70 Tyranids 4 5 3,116 623 258 8.3% 21 AoD 47 65 56,401 868 16,799 29.8% 5,004 AoD-L 26 36 31,409 872 10,400 33.1% 3,444 AoD-T 21 29 24,992 862 6,399 25.6% 1,638 Total ETL VI 407 514 373,086 726 71,402 19.1% 13,665 BLOOD ANGELS: The Blood Angels had a relatively slow week, but they could afford it. With a re-vowing rate of 31% they utilise their resources quite effectively although the completion rate of 18% is about the average of the Faction. Their main weakness of the relatively low average vow seems now less important as the gaps keep narrowing as the event progresses. The best strategy for them going forward is to intensify the completions of first vows and keep re-vowing at roughly the same points’ values. If they can keep the pace, they are in a position to threaten the top! Following some hefty completions elsewhere, we've fallen down to sixth this week but don't let that dishearten you as we're well and truly in the mix! with just under six weeks to go we need to get these outstanding vows completed and squeeze in some more - we still have the third highest points pledged which means with a strong completion rate and a few more vows we can threaten the top! Blood Angels have a reputation for the arts for a reason, show the B&C what we're made of! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Honoured He looks gritty and imposing too - you wouldn't want to see him bearing down on you! Six weeks left, fancy another go? Haha! Now now... Thanks very much, it’s a great model actually I am really glad to have done it some justice. I have potentially 3 more vows don’t I? It might be wise to split the things I had in mind for Vow 3 up, in case I find myself short on time. I am pretty definitely going for at least one more Vow but need to check my RL schedule. Watch this space... Correct, three vows remain (and just under six weeks for them). Looking forward to what you come up with! I nearly forgot that I still have Inceptors to do... Anyway I declare them finished now, so last gathering of strenght to finish the Stormtalon. Basecoat and basic shading already done. Getting ready for metallics and the pilot. No matter the Valley of Procrastination! I WILL SEE THIS VOW COMPLETED! FOR SANGUINIUS!! EDIT: I've run out of decals Gotta resupply. Looking good here too. OLS on the cockpit guaranteed, or did you change your mind? My progress: What else needs doing? That WIP is on par with many of my completions :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 The tufts to finish basing these won't turn up for a while so I'll call them done in case I want to vow anything else. Great progress and completions guys! Keep the pace! @ Closet Skeleton: I assume the vow is complete although you did not explicitly say so. Let me know it I got it wrong. UPDATED TO THIS POINT! I would say they are done? Basing not being part of the event and it has been attempted anyway :) Closet, what are you thinking of a subsequent vow? Huge amount of respect for not only painting white Marines but making them looking stunning too :eek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Ok well if I don't stop now i'm going to nitpick my work and get myself down. I had some issues getting my paint to smooth out but for my level of skill that's not surprising, ended up adding steel sling shot ammo to my droppers to help mix the pigment that had settled. Over all I just need more practice but they are table top ready. Vow 1 Complete. Exquisite work on these, they are above and beyond simply tabletop quality :) - how did you do the purity seal on the top chap? Also, any thoughts on another go? Maybe another Character or a three-man squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carn Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2nd captain is done. That means vow 1 is finished! From the side and a group-photo with both captains and some tactical marines. For the moment I do not have anything left to paint for another vow, just 4 death company... But there is still time left, so ill be back! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Looking good here too. OLS on the cockpit guaranteed, or did you change your mind? Uggh... I want to do it, but so little time left in real life :P I'm currently studying blogs about OLS application. Luther's Stormraven and Xiphons are helpful but airbrush techniques are unavailable for me. Brush only :) @Brother Carn: W O N D E R F U L L J O B!! Those captains rock! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just have the Axe and Backpack and Base to finish and Astorath is done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 My progress: What else needs doing? That WIP is on par with many of my completions I need to finish up purity seals and lenses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas7 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Exquisite work on these, they are above and beyond simply tabletop quality :) - how did you do the purity seal on the top chap? Also, any thoughts on another go? Maybe another Character or a three-man squad? Base coat of oak brown then a quick shade of strong tone followed by a dry brush of skeleton bone, the wax seal was a base coat of uniform grey and a wash with blue tone. I'll probably vow a relic contemptor with assault cannon but I want to hold off until I get him built so I can make a better evaluation of time left for ETL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346714-blood-angels-outpost/page/23/#findComment-5111635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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