Decimus Felix Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'm excited for Calgar, he's been my favourite character ever since I got into 40k during 3rd. I had his PA model, I've bought his TDA model at least three times after losing/ selling armies for whatever reasons over the years. My army now is Primaris Ultramarines led by Guilliman, so I'm going to have a hard time justifying Calgar and Guilliman, so maybe I'll just buy more marines and Custodes, paint up the marines as a successor and have Calgar lead the UM, only bring out Guilliman to lead the coalition force. But back OT, I love Calgar, I love Primaris, I love Primaris Calgar, and those Honour Guard are wonderful. I can also now call my anniversary Captain Fabian without it being too fluff breaking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'm amped, I have a pile of unassembled and unpainted Primaris who were just waiting for a Primaris Character. Should I paint them old school Ultra style? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 There will be a wave of hate, which is understandable. is it really? Still hoping for a schism between Primaris and the old guys. can't really have a schism when the big icons of the old guys like marneus calgar are crossing the picket line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The wave of hate is unacceptable - things change all the time and this is the way forward now. I am glad to see the commitment from GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The wave of hate is unacceptable - things change all the time and this is the way forward now. I am glad to see the commitment from GW. I honestly don't see a lot of hate on these boards. Only legitimate criticism leveled at the story direction, marketing behind it, and the model's downsides. I myself am glad they finally are addressing that issue of upgrading old marines to Primaris. Calgar to me was an odd pick, but I don't mind I guess. I will probably just use my Gravis Cap to proxy him. I don't particularly like the model. But I can honestly say I never was a Calgar fan. Fluff or models. No complaints here though. Glad to see them doing something with the Primaris. And the honor guard guys are pretty sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 There will be a wave of hate, which is understandable. is it really? Still hoping for a schism between Primaris and the old guys. can't really have a schism when the big icons of the old guys like marneus calgar are crossing the picket line. Hate is a bit extreme, but distaste? Cynicism? Yeah, to not expect it would be pretty naive. The motivations behind Primaris are plain $$$ and yes GW is a company, for profit, blah blah, but there will always be those who dislike them because of what they really represent. I dont own one, and wont, even though I have several thousand points of Blood Angels. If they cannot do better than this Calgar, which is a pale shadow to the last sculpt...why would I upgrade any of the classic marines I have? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder_god Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I'm amped, I have a pile of unassembled and unpainted Primaris who were just waiting for a Primaris Character. Should I paint them old school Ultra style? They look awesome in old school colors. These are my inspiration: https://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2017/12/showcase-ultramarines-primaris-ancient.html?m=1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 There will be a wave of hate, which is understandable. is it really? Still hoping for a schism between Primaris and the old guys. can't really have a schism when the big icons of the old guys like marneus calgar are crossing the picket line. Well, I guess the loyal marines in the traitor legions beg to differ ;) I will stay with the terminator Calgar and use it as Primaris if I have to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The model is okay - I still dislike the plethora of hoods on the Gravis style models, they don't remind me of Terminators, they look more like faux-psychic hoods - and the air intake vents are too much. Just give him a bigger halo or something. The updated retro-vibe is nice, but not enough to sell me wholly on the model. On the process - Emperor help me, I hope they didn't make it something stupid. I'm glad that they included the bit about it almost killing him, and honestly, I hope that it does actually kill one of the big Four main chars when they try it on him. It would lend the idea a bit more gravitas. It's also nice that they are finally giving us the actual fluff of a Primaris upgrade, making it really part of the universe, not just a designer slip of the tongue in a video and then silence about it with it never actually featuring in any fluff until now. I just hope it's not some truly stupid process and remains actually dangerous. I'm interested to see what exactly they will have Calgar doing on Vigilus, especially considering what was almost worth his life to "upgrade"? And does this also feature Cawl? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Mind that Calgar might not even be a complete primaris - the Swarmlord reduced him to just a torso, so he might not have the extra attack that represents the Sinew Coils cause he has limbs to put them in . Then again, he has the bionics so I'm probably just being a worrywart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I’m sure Calgar is looking for some payback. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 What I need is a helmet.... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I do not even play Ultramarines, but seeing Primaris Calgar finally pushed me in to jumping trains to the Primaris train. What I need is a helmet.... I believe he actually comes with a helmet option Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5198985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Mind that Calgar might not even be a complete primaris - the Swarmlord reduced him to just a torso, so he might not have the extra attack that represents the Sinew Coils cause he has limbs to put them in . Then again, he has the bionics so I'm probably just being a worrywart. People still trotting out that piece of fluff... Can someone actually show me that part thats not in WD 97? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He could have had his limbs regrown during the Rebirth process. Also, that swarmlord fluff might not be canon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Rent and Torn are FAR different from ripped limb from limb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The pose reminds me a bit of the Captain Cortez model :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The pose reminds me a bit of the Captain Cortez model :lol: It reminds me of his classic model that they clearly drew inspiration from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 So papa Smurf has become PrimarisPa Smurf. Certainly get a smile from the pose personally but if what another said is true, about time he found his freaking helmet! (wears mega terminator armour...forgets helmet...). Now the question is who will get into the big ol' machine of primaris making. I don't think ANY of the Dark Angels will, not sure about the availability of the machine but maybe something about their dark past will not allow them to use it (possibly their guilt making them "too weak" to take it). Blood Angels I would imagine would be far and few, maybe mephiston but other than that, the risk of it triggering black rage and red thirst could be real (considering it is an ordeal, the lead up to it and the actual event could cause it trigger). Space Wolfs...meh, they just throw their thunder wolfs into it as well because screw regulations and rules and actual order along with being reasonable beings for any reason, heck I would wager they would throw bjorn in their just for the giggles (and Bjorn would do it because screw it, been alive 10k years and survived worse and now I have little more than a metal tin box to live in, what does he have to lose really?) The rest of chapters I would think would readily use it more as a "pseudo-Dreadnought" process. Sort of the "well, he's beyond dreadnought saving BUT he isn't beyond primaris machine process" or vice-versa, we could see the birth of a new unit in a sense. "Revengers" "Retributors" or something equally edgy for marines who have been brought back from the brink by means of this process and are actually more potent than normal primaris (mainly from experience in the real 40k unlike what I believe most primaris are normally). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Apparently there is a helmet option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Not sure how I feel about it right now. I think it would have been braver to replace him with a true Primaris, if they are going this route they might as well get a fresh start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Not sure how I feel about it right now. I think it would have been braver to replace him with a true Primaris, if they are going this route they might as well get a fresh start. If they had done that there would be a mass panic right now about how all beloved characters would be squatted in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Have they said where in the timeline he got primarised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Have they said where in the timeline he got primarised. Well we know he isnt in Plague War novel so sometime between Plague War and Vigilus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 So papa Smurf has become PrimarisPa Smurf. Certainly get a smile from the pose personally but if what another said is true, about time he found his freaking helmet! (wears mega terminator armour...forgets helmet...). Now the question is who will get into the big ol' machine of primaris making. I don't think ANY of the Dark Angels will, not sure about the availability of the machine but maybe something about their dark past will not allow them to use it (possibly their guilt making them "too weak" to take it). Blood Angels I would imagine would be far and few, maybe mephiston but other than that, the risk of it triggering black rage and red thirst could be real (considering it is an ordeal, the lead up to it and the actual event could cause it trigger). Space Wolfs...meh, they just throw their thunder wolfs into it as well because screw regulations and rules and actual order along with being reasonable beings for any reason, heck I would wager they would throw bjorn in their just for the giggles (and Bjorn would do it because screw it, been alive 10k years and survived worse and now I have little more than a metal tin box to live in, what does he have to lose really?) The rest of chapters I would think would readily use it more as a "pseudo-Dreadnought" process. Sort of the "well, he's beyond dreadnought saving BUT he isn't beyond primaris machine process" or vice-versa, we could see the birth of a new unit in a sense. "Revengers" "Retributors" or something equally edgy for marines who have been brought back from the brink by means of this process and are actually more potent than normal primaris (mainly from experience in the real 40k unlike what I believe most primaris are normally). I'm sorry to reply to this with just a simple one sentence reply, but considering these chapters you've mentioned already have Primaris marines aplenty, the arguments ring false in my opinion. Or is Azrael weaker than the existing DA hellblasters? Does Dante pose risk to black rage over existing Blood Angel agressors? Etc. If you ask me nothing stops the process now, its just a matter of when. Edit: oh and the matter of the helm: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351409-primaris-calgar-your-thoughts/page/3/#findComment-5199209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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