Canadian_F_H Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I don't recall what his gauntlets did before. But powerfists that don't reduce your to hit roll by one isn't terrible. The bolter part is better than what most spacemarine's officers are logging around, if rather incidental... But was anyone going to take him for his bolters? I didn't see if he had an invulnerable save. I assume he would. Nvm. He does. It was in the paragraph. Thought it would have been in a little rules box... That's what I get for skimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4++ Just like now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 He's great. 8 wounds, toughness 5, 6" movement. Weapons the same as before but are totally fine. If he's too strong the costs will spiral. True but I was hoping they's get a slight boost as he's lost his Relic Blade and D3 damage on the Gauntlets is a bit flat compared to a lot of unique weapons these days. But yeah, he's still good and has a great statline. Edit: totally missed that he doesn't suffer the -1 to hit for power fists - OK that's not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Arkley Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Getting the CP back looks good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 He's great. 8 wounds, toughness 5, 6" movement. Weapons the same as before but are totally fine. If he's too strong the costs will spiral. True but I was hoping they's get a slight boost as he's lost his Relic Blade and D3 damage on the Gauntlets is a bit flat compared to a lot of unique weapons these days. But yeah, he's still good and has a great statline. What did his relic blade do? I know back when his gauntlets struck last, his powersword had a slight purpose... But what value could be had in a secondary weapon over... HIT 2+ STR 8 AP -3 DMG D3 ATK 6 As for his durability. T5, W8 2+/4++ and half all incoming DMG (not sure how they handle odd numbers or if it's total and not per hit etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Getting the CP back looks good too. I'm wondering how this works now. This is the standard Ultramarines warlord Trait so we already had this, but getting CPs back was nerfed since the Codex came out - so can this regenerate more than 1 CP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Looking like he's going to be Now + a few raw stats. That's certainly not bad. At 220, I'll be getting the brushes out again. Any more than that, though and I think points will start getting tight again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 He's great. 8 wounds, toughness 5, 6" movement. Weapons the same as before but are totally fine. If he's too strong the costs will spiral. True but I was hoping they's get a slight boost as he's lost his Relic Blade and D3 damage on the Gauntlets is a bit flat compared to a lot of unique weapons these days. But yeah, he's still good and has a great statline. What did his relic blade do? I know back when his gauntlets struck last, his powersword had a slight purpose... But what value could be had in a secondary weapon over... HIT 2+ STR 8 AP -3 DMG D3 ATK 6 As for his durability. T5, W8 2+/4++ and half all incoming DMG (not sure how they handle odd numbers or if it's total and not per hit etc) You're absolutely right, I am still stuck in 7th Edition - which is the last time I played him tbh - when the Relic Blade was handy, but now Power Fists don't strike lasy there is no reason to have the Relic Blade.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Getting the CP back looks good too. I'm wondering how this works now. This is the standard Ultramarines warlord Trait so we already had this, but getting CPs back was nerfed since the Codex came out - so can this regenerate more than 1 CP? Specific wordage? Regenerate was nerfed to 1cp But it says in his WLT that on a 5+ the CP is "immediately refunded" He's great. 8 wounds, toughness 5, 6" movement. Weapons the same as before but are totally fine. If he's too strong the costs will spiral. True but I was hoping they's get a slight boost as he's lost his Relic Blade and D3 damage on the Gauntlets is a bit flat compared to a lot of unique weapons these days. But yeah, he's still good and has a great statline. What did his relic blade do? I know back when his gauntlets struck last, his powersword had a slight purpose... But what value could be had in a secondary weapon over... HIT 2+ STR 8 AP -3 DMG D3 ATK 6 As for his durability. T5, W8 2+/4++ and half all incoming DMG (not sure how they handle odd numbers or if it's total and not per hit etc) You're absolutely right, I am still stuck in 7th Edition - which is the last time I played him tbh - when the Relic Blade was handy, but now Power Fists don't strike lasy there is no reason to have the Relic Blade.... I mean. There would be a reason vs a normal power fist that reduces your "to hit" by one nowadays. But it definitly didn't say that his fists have that in the WC article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Arkley Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 *snip* There is also the external factors of his Storm Shield wielding friends... Calgar is going to be a tough marine to kill I hope for our other brothers that Helbrecht, Azrael, Dante, Kantor and Ragner get similar treatment :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 One of the GW previews suggested the new Primaris honor Guard can join other characters too (They actually mentioned RG) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Marneus is brutal. He is a "mini" Gulli. Without the LoW slot. I'm afraid that soon he will be auto include... (as GW stated that named char will be cheaper) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 He's an absolute beast of a character, yeah. And he can ride in a Repulsor now too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder_god Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Aside from having to ride in a repulsor, I see no reason NOT to include him. My only question, what flavor of aggressors should ride with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Arkley Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Aside from having to ride in a repulsor, I see no reason NOT to include him. My only question, what flavor of aggressors should ride with him? Toasty ones :).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think he's best in a vehicle with 6 or do Hellblasters. They come out, shoot something up. He charges alongside his Honor Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I do not see the Repulsor ride as an upgrade. That thing will have a target on it that you can see from outer space. It will bend space time and somehow explode *before* T1. Like, you place it on the table and when you look back at your tray, it's still there. It might as well say "When you deploy this unit, it explodes. Immediately remove it from the table and take your mortal wounds." It's a good thing his movement went to 6. He's gonna need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think he's best in a vehicle with 6 or do Hellblasters. They come out, shoot something up. He charges alongside his Honor Guard. 5 Hellblasters, Calgar, his Honour Guard and a Primaris Chaplain for that extra melee edge imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Calgar already has the chaplain's aura as a rule. You re roll in shooting and CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Yeah, the fact that he'll have to ride in Repulsors or Thunderhawks to get anywhere reasonably fast now sucks. That said, T5, A6 and LP8 make him very tough and very nasty. Regarding a duel with Abaddon, I'd still say that the the latter would win because PriMarneus just can't keep up with up to twelve attacks (six of which are always hitting at S8, but that is irrelevant now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigo Cannon Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I hope he still can still DS some how, dropping him with plasma inceptors will be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 We don't know if he can teleport in or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 True, but I doubt that's something they'd forget to mention. We'll see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Even without, he'll still be impactful from the get go. Easily the best version of the big man yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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