BrotherWallenstein Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 There is a promo video for Vigilus where the whole book is browsed through over the course of a few seconds...Someone rip the video and analyse it frame by frame! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 There is a promo video for Vigilus where the whole book is browsed through over the course of a few seconds... Someone rip the video and analyse it frame by frame! Nah, I can just use < and > on youtube to advance or regress through individual frames, much easier. I see: Photographs of Ultramarines, Spaces Wolves, and Dark Angels. Pages titled forces of: Ultramarines, Dark Angels, White Scars, Imperial Fists, and Crimson Fists. Also Chapters Primaris: [illegible] (they're green and grey), [illegible] Hawks, Sons of the Phoenix, and [illegible] [something]nes (something marines?) they're dark blue. Forces of the Adeptus Mechanicus, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Adepta Sororitas, The Knights of the [illegible], Orks, Genestealer Cults, Drukhari, Asuryani. Maybe Valrak's privy to the content of a later book, we could be hidden between a couple of pages not shown in the preview, or maybe we're a footnote beneath the IF entry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 There's just been an update on the contents on Warhammer Community, showing a detachment for the Imperial Fists. More news to come! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte for your Ryghts Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 There is a promo video for Vigilus where the whole book is browsed through over the course of a few seconds... Someone rip the video and analyse it frame by frame! :D As DeMolay says, the video is very cleverly put together to show just what GW want known at this stage. Pages upon pages are missing too, and some pages repeated. It's a great way to engage with the community though, as they just knew someone would be frame-by-framing it .. like me. Judging by the new IF special detachment rules from today's Community preview, I'd say the chances of this being game breaking are nil, but the chances of it being flavourful are sky high - if BT really are getting one and not just, for example, being mentioned for fluff. However, a couple of strats to make charging and/or fighting more potent and anything to replace our trait, along with that rumoured points decrease, would do a great deal to sure up BT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 https://ibb.co/2nVwf7L Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Those are the SoB orders, the one you are refering to is the Order of the Valorous Heart, which is a maltese cross with a heart. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Valorous_Heart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Me personally, I dont Care anymore. Since I'm back with the BTs, I'm going to collect and paint them how I want. If I dont like their rules......I'll find a codex for them I like. But it wont change how I convert and paint them..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 too complicated for GW at the moment. But would be funny.Even a flat "Crusader squads in upgraded detachements fight twice, instead of once" cannot bring Templars to competitive play. No I just wish GW release some Templars model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5204911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 BT confirmed as having a Sword Brethren formation (or whatever these things are) in the vigilus book! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 sweet 6 pound 9 ounce baby emperor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Also the Veteran Intercessor strat seems to be +1 attack and leadership. Im excited, love Veterans and dreadnouughts and if the formation revolves around veteran units then Im happy, a new warlord trait and combat strats will be very helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 BT confirmed as having a Sword Brethren formation (or whatever these things are) in the vigilus book! Maybe its not a formation but a unit datasheet? We are not listed in the Forces of War. Im cautious about this... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 BT confirmed as having a Sword Brethren formation (or whatever these things are) in the vigilus book! Maybe its not a formation but a unit datasheet? We are not listed in the Forces of War. Im cautious about this... Well, it´s on faction rules so most likely datasheets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 BT confirmed as having a Sword Brethren formation (or whatever these things are) in the vigilus book! Maybe its not a formation but a unit datasheet?We are not listed in the Forces of War. Im cautious about this... Well, it´s on faction rules so most likely datasheets Unlikely, it's listed in the same section as the IF Siegebreaker cohort which was already revealed by GW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 So Insifier dropped this on N&R "Sword Brethren are slightly buffed traditional Sword Brethren, with the option to be taken as Intercessors with CQWs/PWs." If true, yeah I might be finally starting my Primaris Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 If that is true praise the Emperor and pass the ammunition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 If that is true I am unimpressed. I understand why folks want melee Primaris, naturally. But it's not a big draw for me to get back to either the painting grind or the tabletop. But all we have to go on is a table of contents and what 1 guy's GW staffer told him (Insifer's quote), so we'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 So Insifier dropped this on N&R "Sword Brethren are slightly buffed traditional Sword Brethren, with the option to be taken as Intercessors with CQWs/PWs." If true, yeah I might be finally starting my Primaris Crusade. what is a traditinal Sword Brethren? Just a Vanguard without Jump pack or do you mean Vanguard+Sternguard+Terminators+....? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 So Insifier dropped this on N&R "Sword Brethren are slightly buffed traditional Sword Brethren, with the option to be taken as Intercessors with CQWs/PWs." If true, yeah I might be finally starting my Primaris Crusade. This intrigues me greatly what is a traditinal Sword Brethren? Just a Vanguard without Jump pack or do you mean Vanguard+Sternguard+Terminators+....? Any and all of our elites are sword brethren, so it technically includes Terminators too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Traditional sword bro , I reckon is a veteran with free gear choice right? We have to wait and see. Fingers crossed for a Castellan and an upgrade sprue next year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Yeah. It's a bit of a weird statement isn't it... "traditional" sword brethren could mean different things. The unit "sword brethren" was basicallt the same veteran space marines as everyone else's except they could take one of several special rules... Exactly what they were I don't recall except one was infiltrate. And since 6th edition codex space marines our "sword brethren" have been as pointed out, any and all veterans are "sword brethren" therefore squads of vanguard, Sternguard, terminators, Assault terminators, honor guard, comand squads (when they still existed in 6th and 7th) and all of our "veteran sgt" equivalents in squads. So what does it mean here? IDK... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Personally I would prefer to see a detachment instead of just another unit because we are really lacking in close combat power and new stratagems are the fix we need, while a new unit and an excuse to convert Intercessors does sound fun it wouldnt be particularly helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I'd like both... And more. We shall see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Yeah. It's a bit of a weird statement isn't it... "traditional" sword brethren could mean different things. The unit "sword brethren" was basicallt the same veteran space marines as everyone else's except they could take one of several special rules... Exactly what they were I don't recall except one was infiltrate. Contemporary Vanilla Marines could take one of those traits, too. They were a copy paste unit by a different name. So as for what Sword Brother means in this context...it's a vague definition from a vague quote from a vague source :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Vigilus? More like vague-ilus... I'll see myself out... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351445-bt-confirmed-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5205610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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