Firepower Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On the 7th Atia is making a review of vigilus, we have to see of we get some info. i hope it will be not disappointing Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Tomorrow we should get at least an idea on what to expect since it will be preview for the Imperial Guard and most likely the remaining SM detachments (Victrix Guard, CF Liberation and BT Sword Bros). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 WHC article is up. We won’t learn anything about the BT detachment lol. It’s all about vanilla marines and ultramarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Are we even sure its a detachment and not a unit? Hmm yeah, units have "datasheet:" in front of them judging by the contents page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 We currently don't have rules for that squad. So probably it will be just that. Or a few of those squads. Don't think we will have anything for Sword Bros Primaris. Hope I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Field commander looks good, only 1 CP too. There are enough decent traits that it could be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 We currently don't have rules for that squad. So probably it will be just that. Or a few of those squads. Don't think we will have anything for Sword Bros Primaris. Hope I'm wrong Like Reinhard noted: it does not have the Datasheet heading in the table of contents, while units there do, so it is likely a faction like what the Fists have. As for what is included and the rules, no idea. A lot of these rules are interesting, but CP are at such a premium for Marines that temptation can quickly become prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Yeah he might be right. Tonight hopefully we will know some details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-McGuinness Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 WHC article is up. We won’t learn anything about the BT detachment lol. It’s all about vanilla marines and ultramarines. Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 There's nothing in the preview to suggest anyone other than intercessors in the non-BT formation are getting +1 attack. Sword Brethren is disappointing since it sounds like it will buff elites rather than troops. I want to run Black Tide or Mechanized not Black Deathwing or just have dual chainsword vanguard vets invalidate my crusader blobs. I'm of the opposite opinion. If we are getting a melee buff that isn't army wide (which I doubt any of these are) then I would rather it be on my our elites. I'm not of the opinion that Crusaders need to be uber combat units because that will never be the case. I'd rather have a buff for units with access to the more deadly weapons. I agree. Use blacktide to contest objectives while using buffed elites to take down major threats. Whatever happens I’m excited for this, even if it’s not everything we’ve hoped and dreamed for. If nothing else it’s something new and it’s not like we’re losing anything we already have. If you take Black tide this edition you don't have the points for elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Ok here we go! Good news for Og marine fans, and bad for primaris fans. Lovely and fluffy detachment. But if you want a primaris detach, there's nothing for you. I'm actually having mixed feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Ok here we go! Good news for Og marine fans, and bad for primaris fans. Lovely and fluffy detachment. But if you want a primaris detach, there's nothing for you. I'm actually having mixed feelings. There's the Indomitus Crusaders detach for that. Brothers rejoice!! This is a great detach for us! Affects Helbrecht, EC, Company Champ, Company Vets for 1 CP Warlord Trait - Master swordsman - +1 attack and every unmodified roll to hit of 6 is 2 hits Relic - THE HOLY ORB OF ANTIOCH!!!!!! Yes you heard that right! - Lob it at some rabbits heretics/xenos and for every 10 models in the unit roll a D6, on a 2+ they suffer D3 mortal wounds Strats Uphold the Honor of the Emperor - 1CP - Give a SB unit a 5+ FNP! Suffer not the Unclean to Live - 2CP - Give a SB unit +1 attack and re-roll wound rolls! The only minor downside is that it does not affect VV, Sternguard or TDA. But I think it might be OP if they did. Regardless, Company Vets are a great unit and can take literally just about any weapon as a true SB would. Here's the link for the video at the time stamp https://youtu.be/sT0eDbjQTyc?t=1073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyWalrus Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0eDbjQTyc&feature=youtu.be Templar stuff starts at ~17:50. The Holy Orb of Antioch (Blessed be its Name!) is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_chong Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Ok here we go! Good news for Og marine fans, and bad for primaris fans. Lovely and fluffy detachment. But if you want a primaris detach, there's nothing for you. I'm actually having mixed feelings. There's the Indomitus Crusaders detach for that. Brothers rejoice!! This is a great detach for us! Affects Helbrecht, EC, Company Champ, Company Vets for 1 CP Warlord Trait - Master swordsman - +1 attack and every unmodified roll to hit of 6 is 2 hits Relic - THE HOLY ORB OF ANTIOCH!!!!!! Yes you heard that right! - Lob it at some rabbits heretics/xenos and for every 10 models in the unit roll a D6, on a 2+ they suffer D3 mortal wounds Strats Uphold the Honor of the Emperor - 1CP - Give a SB unit a 5+ FNP! Suffer not the Unclean to Live - 2CP - Give a SB unit +1 attack and re-roll wound rolls! The only minor downside is that it does not affect VV, Sternguard or TDA. But I think it might be OP if they did. Regardless, Company Vets are a great unit and can take literally just about any weapon as a true SB would. Here's the link for the video at the time stamp Now I should think what would be the best loadout for the company veterans already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Bit miffed Assault Terminators aren't included (they are some of the highest ranking sword brethren after all) but I'll take it! Was never going to be super competitive (don't think any of the formations are for the CP investment required) but it's fluffy and fun. Looking forward to giving it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Well turned out the rumor that'd we'd finally get rules for "Primaris sword brothers" that could take close combat weapons and power weapons was a bunch of lies. And yes I do find that dissappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Well turned out the rumor that'd we'd finally get rules for "Primaris sword brothers" that could take close combat weapons and power weapons was a bunch of lies. And yes I do find that dissappointing. You should have known that it was never going to happen, there are no models for that and GW doesn't do rules without models anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Yeah disappointed there are no Primaris Sword Brothers. We still have the Indomitus Crusaders one but its for vanilla Marines (and no models for Primaris Vets too ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 this would be what i ever wanted to have... but that you cannot take vanguard and Terminators is very disappointing to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Well, time for me to dig up my converted veterans and champions They need paint now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0eDbjQTyc&feature=youtu.be Templar stuff starts at ~17:50. The Holy Orb of Antioch (Blessed be its Name!) is back! Holy orb seems BS too..... it does not work against most enemies... and which unit have more than 10 units? Tzangors... but then there die just 2W3 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Well turned out the rumor that'd we'd finally get rules for "Primaris sword brothers" that could take close combat weapons and power weapons was a bunch of lies. And yes I do find that dissappointing. You should have known that it was never going to happen, there are no models for that and GW doesn't do rules without models anymore Yes I should. I guess, I started dreaming of a Templar upgrade sprue that was mostly weapons to add. Hope born from IF getting an upgrade sprue. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Gotta have a look at the indomitus crusaders thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte for your Ryghts Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 So I'm very pleased that I can do something with the 29 OGmarines I have on sprue. However, am I correct in thinking that: 1) There are no models for 'company veterans' outside the old space marine company command set (in which you have two models)? 2) These models are just regular marines, with a little bling - the kind I can get from my upgrade sprue? 3) And that they've dropped to 14pts? If so, looks like I might be waving goodbye to crusader squads, and welcoming some vets... Overall very happy. This is the first time in 8th I've thought that a release reflects something about BT that I can get behind. Side point - are we seeing more evidence that OG's are being replaced in the troops slot, but being maintained long term as elites? Gives hobbyists a project (upgrades) and keeps their plastic relevant? Hopefully everyone else will find their BT special place too :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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