Slasher956 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 @taikishi, the other issue you have with your 'false advertising /illegal' statement is timing... when GW issued that statement SoB didnt have a commercially available codex (and uptil it goes on pre-order still doesn) and so it could be argued that the SoB codex is exempt from the statement........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5421611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taikishi Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Seems pretty evident to me, between both pictures and the announcement, that new rules will happen. It's just when, not if. When the PA2 leaks happened, I thought it weird that there was a chance Sisters would be getting rules in PA2 that weren't immediately in the codex given their proximity of release. Now that we know they aren't, plus the fact that Harlequins didn't receive new rules (that I'm aware of) in PA1 but their logo is on this page, I'm led to believe there will be far more than 3 PA books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5421621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Seems pretty evident to me, between both pictures and the announcement, that new rules will happen. It's just when, not if. When the PA2 leaks happened, I thought it weird that there was a chance Sisters would be getting rules in PA2 that weren't immediately in the codex given their proximity of release. Now that we know they aren't, plus the fact that Harlequins didn't receive new rules (that I'm aware of) in PA1 but their logo is on this page, I'm led to believe there will be far more than 3 PA books. False advertising? Laughable. You can't seriously believe that 'you'll get rules' then not getting rules would be enough ro actually constitute a valid false advertising suit, especially considering it happens like twice a month. GW lie in their promotional material all the time and never get legally called on it because A. Nobody with money cares and B. They can always just claim illustrative hyperbole. Hell, even here I can dispute any attempt to keep them to the claims they made. 'You said new rules for all these factions' Sister's get a codex that happens at the same time as PA, which constitutes getting new rules as a part of PA. 'You had a slide that said new rules for every codex' Correct, the Sister's new codex is new rules for the beta codex, thus we have fulfilled our promise. 'You said every faction would have a stake in PA' Sisters have a blurb in book two where they fight somewhere, that counts as having a stake', easy. Will there be more PA books beyond BA+Nids? Probably. Will any of them have rules for Sisters? It's certainly possible, but the admittedly very circumstantial evidence we've seen so far suggests that Faith and Fury is Sisters' PA appearance and leakers suggest that they have no actual rules content for SoB in that book. Combine that with Sisters long history of being last in line at the lunch counter and I would certainly recommend against getting my hopes up. Will they face a false advertising suit if they don't come out with sisters rules in a PA book? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA No. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5421752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taikishi Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5421821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Remember, all, the teaching of the Ecclesiarchy, especially as we near the release date: Hope is the first step on the Road to Disappointment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5421932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 ....gosh I really hope the codex sucks and is a complete flop and causes sisters to collect dust on shelves and GW have entire warehouses full of sisters stock. I really hope that they'll be even worse than grey knights. /reversepsychology #roadtodissapointment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Remember, all, the teaching of the Ecclesiarchy, especially as we near the release date: Hope is the first step on the Road to Disappointment. I thought the teachings of the Ecclesiarchy was trust in the Emperor, let not the xenos, mutant & heritics live... oh and the only reason why SMs arent mutants is because the Emperor made them! :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taikishi Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Nah, they're still mutants. Except for the Blood Angels! After all, Sanguinius died for Horus' sins that the Emperor and his Empire might live. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Releasing new rules for sisters in PA right after their dex comes out is stupid. I disagree. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I don't see why anyone would want to have to buy two or more books instead of one to have their rules in, especially when the main codex is going to be just brand new at the time. Well, I guess GW loves that kind of customer at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well with Greyfax in the Nov WD we can pretty much assume that the Ordos Heriticus wont appear in the Sisters codex (its was a snowballs chance anyway....:p) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Well with Greyfax in the Nov WD we can pretty much assume that the Ordos Heriticus wont appear in the Sisters codex (its was a snowballs chance anyway....) Good! I prefer them separate. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Confirmed that Inquisition is getting strats and a new psychic discipline in the WD. I think Sisters will get PA rules content in the month of the full army release. And I suspect all the WD content for Sos, Inquisition, and Assassins will be combined with all of the 40k rules for the Rogue Traders to become Codex: Imperial Agents. I expect a minimum 5 book run for PA, but it could see it going to 8 or even 10. They've never said that each faction only gets one appearance; the idea here is that GW is telling a story, and it'll be however many books, appearances by factions and rules as are required to tell said story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 They might print a couple specialist detachments for Sisters in PA perhaps. I don’t think they’ve put specialist detachments directly in codices before have they? Not that I want to have to buy 2 books immediately but it seems possible they’d have some supplemental rules that they decide don’t belong in the codex proper, and stick them into the next PA book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 From a source outside the usual Codex BSB channels: Sisters look to be a part of this Psychic Awakening that's going on right now- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IHOGw8iing So with this we see the Sororitas not only participating in the strategy session in the Headquarters, but they are also participating in battle against elements of at least three legions of Chaos Space Marines. Knowing this I have the feeling we just might see a fairly strong Codex for us at the end of this month. Sisters allied with Imperial Guard and Salamanders-- cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Releasing new rules for sisters in PA right after their dex comes out is stupid. I disagree. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I don't see why anyone would want to have to buy two or more books instead of one to have their rules in, especially when the main codex is going to be just brand new at the time. Well, I guess GW loves that kind of customer at least. I don't care if it's in 8 books so long as the rules are GOOD. That said, it's not like I would ever buy 8 books. Rules are the easiest things to acquire without paying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5422960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Sisters up for pre order next sat with a 2 week pre order window - source whc Sorry iPad doesn’t like me posting links.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5423283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 New Dialogus in the new trailer. Floating lecturn from BSB 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5423367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasp Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I’m sure I am just dense, but where did you see that Dialogus? I cannot see it. Never mind, I was watching the wrong video. I am dense. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5423671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taikishi Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What trailer? I'm seeing the one for the boxset and the "animated" one for PA2, that's it. Not seeing the Dialogus in either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5423798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJAK Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 What trailer? I'm seeing the one for the boxset and the "animated" one for PA2, that's it. Not seeing the Dialogus in either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8UMoWOW6jQ 28 seconds the lady in the center has the same floating lecturn as was in BSB 3. Ergo she's an artist's rendering of an actual model. And since the only character in the army that would need a lecturn is the dialogus, new dialogus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5423950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dawnstar Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Contents page for Faith and Fury certainly seems to confirm no new rules for Sisters in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5424014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 "Not only that, but you’ll see a showcase of shiny new miniatures that won’t be out for a while yet,** and check out the updated datasheets for the entire range – including a number of, ahem… BRAND-NEW, NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN UNITS!"Happy to hear about the new units! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5424046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The other thing I took away is 'miracle dice' instead of FPs and sacred rites instead of acts of faith... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5424050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How is "brand new never before seen units" defined? Is it just ones according to the BSB? In which case that would be Exorcist and Immolator, Celestians and Dominion etc. Or is it what we genuinely hope for, legit new units? Hey it's GW PR team, you just can't be sure... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5424073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The other thing I took away is 'miracle dice' instead of FPs and sacred rites instead of acts of faith... If you go all the way back to the beginning you'd roll a dice for each squad of sisters, for random game-long bonuses that would have little meaningful effect. Hopefully this isn't a sign of sisters getting nerfed all the way back to 2nd edition on that front. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356166-bsb-speculation/page/27/#findComment-5424076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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