Blood Ravens IA July

[smart_arse]

Dunno why everyone is getting so excited about this.  It will more than likely just be a copy and paste of the previous IA: Blood Ravens, with a paragraph about Primaris tacked on the end.

[WarriorFish]

Let's stay on topic please, and have some more good manners too. I don't think it's too much to ask.

[Cyrox]

I hope it’s true.

 

I enjoyed the previous Blood Ravens IA and if they do it similar to the Crimson Fists one, I won’t complain

 

I’d like to see some more hints on their founding and how they have incorporated Primaris into their ranks

Edited June 16, 2019 by Cyrox

[Dark Shepherd]

Dawn of War Primaris edition....that could be fun especially Inceptors

 

Going by DoW2 the Librarian was useless, was that changed in 3 hence possibility of psychic goodness?

Edited June 16, 2019 by Dark Shepherd

[Sete]

BR CT, Sargents are psykers can cast smite ;) (making it up) Edited June 16, 2019 by Sete

[Kastor Krieg]

IA: The Other (missing) Thousand Sons? Gimme

Since we know Dusties can get returned to full faculty (Ynnead, :cuss yeah! :P), I'd love to see in-character snippets from them or even better Ahriman himself, directly recognizing Blood Ravens as kSon stock and Corvydae descendants. Not gonna happen, but I'd love this kind of a shared history bridge to get confirmed between loyalists and traitors.

Edited June 16, 2019 by Reclusiarch Krieg

[Toomanyprojects]

I’m more than a little curious about this one myself - had no idea that BR had had chapter tactics before, but hey ho, must have missed it :)

 

Will be good to see, and maybe (just maybe) lead to a slight expansion on the two official Blood Ravens Models in the whole range. Maybe even sculpted shoulder pads:)

Edited June 16, 2019 by Toomanyprojects

[PeteySödes]

Have Blood Ravens ever shown up in a real GW campaign like Vigilus, Armageddon, or The 13th BC?

I swear there was something but I’ll have to dig. FW also had Gabriel Angelos for a a while too but was discontinued.

[Gederas]

[Cyrox]

 

 

Have Blood Ravens ever shown up in a real GW campaign like Vigilus, Armageddon, or The 13th BC?

 

I swear there was something but I’ll have to dig. FW also had Gabriel Angelos for a a while too but was discontinued.

Errr..... You sure about that?

I still don’t know what FW were thinking with that head - awful bit

[ShinyRhino]

I remember reading one of the Dawn of War novels ands it was insinuated that the Blood Ravens are a super secret descendant of the Thousand Sons. Did that bear any fruit?

[Toomanyprojects]

Strong hint about it in one of the Heresy short stories, a member of the thousand sons who remains a loyalist after the heresy ends up hanging around with the white scars for a while. From recollection, was a member of the Corvidae sect whose emblem is almost identical to the BR.

 

Can only remember generalisations, so feel free to correct me if I’ve got stuff wrong guys!

[Panzer]

Who knows what or whether GW decided on any official founding legion for Blood Ravens these days, but a few years ago Laurie Goulding said he knows exactly what's going on with them and that they aren't from the Thousand Sons.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

There’s a BR novel that strongly implies they have kSons gemeseed.

[Panzer]

Implications mean nothing until confirmed.

[Charlo]

I look at one topic in the NRA and remember why I don't come here often. Top work guys...

 

Blood Ravens are exciting. Massive part of the franchise (like it or not) so good to have them represented on the tabletop. Who knows, maybe a new datasheet for Angelos?

[PeteySödes]

 

 

I swear there was something but I’ll have to dig. FW also had Gabriel Angelos for a a while too but was discontinued.

Errr..... You sure about that?

Hah welp, Don’t mind me...

[templargdt]

This is awesome.  I am one of those guys that got into Warhammer 40K because of the Dawn of War games (see image) and I've got something like 5000 points of Blood Ravens painted.  

All the jokes about stealing the relics are good.

 

[pandion40]

An interesting choice, I’ll admit I’m one of those who was primarily interested in the thousand sons connection, I liked the idea of a fragment of Magnus legacy surviving, plus I love the idea of a chapter who knows their descend from a traitor legion, who after some drama can accept and come to terms with this and stay loyal. I’d hoped GW would take the BR in this direction eventually, but they went in the opposite direction so I’ve largely lost interest.

 

I’ll give the article a read but I’m expecting a run of the mill article with unknown heritage, lots of psykers and such with the thousand sons connection minimal or absent, but I’m glad GW is doing this for those who who love the chapter.

[templargdt]

So this will probably be like the Crimson Fists IA, some lore (rehash of the old, old IA article or something new?  What's happened since Angelos took over the Chapter and the Primaris delivery) a couple stratagems and relics.  I'm hoping for a chapter tactic and an updated data sheet on Angelos, his points value is way too high.

Data sheets for any of the characters like Tarkus would be amazing but there is probably no way, right?  GW has completely moved away from units without models since the CH lawsuit.  Probably a bridge too far.  Would be great though.

I'm also hoping for something like "1 CP: use any relic from Codex: Space Marines" as the ultimate troll from GW.

[Leif Bearclaw]

Strong hint about it in one of the Heresy short stories, a member of the thousand sons who remains a loyalist after the heresy ends up hanging around with the white scars for a while. From recollection, was a member of the Corvidae sect whose emblem is almost identical to the BR.

 

Can only remember generalisations, so feel free to correct me if I’ve got stuff wrong guys!

 

If you mean Arvida, he's definitively has nothing to do with the Blood Ravens. He ends up being

Janus, Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights

.

 

 

[Orange Knight]

This is very positive, in my opinion.

I am surprised to see the Blood Ravens receive rules ahead of the Minotaurs, Red Scorpions and Charcaradons however.

The index with the Crimson Fists had some nice rules and I expect this to be in similar quality.

[Dark_Master]

Strong hint about it in one of the Heresy short stories, a member of the thousand sons who remains a loyalist after the heresy ends up hanging around with the white scars for a while. From recollection, was a member of the Corvidae sect whose emblem is almost identical to the BR.

 

Can only remember generalisations, so feel free to correct me if I’ve got stuff wrong guys!

Plus the fact the fleet Magnus sends away (and we haven’t heard from again) was mostly Corvidae sect.

 

Fleet based chapter with lots of Librarians? Check!

 

Wonder how they beat the flesh change and/or Rubic

 

DM

[redmapa]

Maybe they dont actually have Magnus' geneseed and were instead given other geneseed and the chapter was simply founded by loyalist Thousand Sons that kept their identity a secret to the new chapter so that the truth would die with them, maybe their founding rights were given by an Inquisitor who kept these Veterans under his service for a long period of time and repaid their services by giving them a new chapter. 

[Brother Tyler]

I removed all of the posts that weren't about the Blood Ravens [subsequent to the verification of the article].

 

Let's keep this on topic, folks. This discussion is about the Blood Ravens Index Astartes article (so discussion of the Blood Ravens and how old information might be incorporated into the new article is relevant).