No Foes Remain Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Well gonna try and grab one of those at tescos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 From the Warhammer Community article about the upcoming July WD: Index Astartes – The Blood RavensThe Index Astartes spotlight is shone upon one of the most mysterious Space Marine Chapters – the Blood Ravens – whose history and gene-lineage have long been the subject of much debate. Some questions yet remain unanswered (will they ever be?), but you’ll learn more about their origins, Chapter organisation and combat doctrine than ever before. There’s even a datasheet for their current Chapter Master, Gabriel Angelos, as well as a new Chapter Tactic, Stratagem and Relic unique to the Blood Ravens! There’s loads more on the Blood Ravens and other Warhammer 40,000 content besides… The Blood Ravens MusterRik Turner’s burgeoning Blood Ravens collection featured in White Dwarf many years ago, but you should see the size of it now… (hint – you can!) Paint Splatter – Painting Blood RavensWhite Dwarfer and Space Marines painting aficionado Matt Hutson presents a stage-by-stage guide to getting your Blood Ravens ready for battle. Ravens’ BloodIn this short story by Callum Davis, an embattled Blood Ravens fleet receives an unexpected visit from an Adeptus Custodes vessel, but what could their purpose be? Pretty much the best we could hope for. A hefty price drop for angelos would be great. I was hoping for a few more relics and strats, but anything is fantastic. Still hoping for the strat to allow you to use any space marine relic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sultansean Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 "A stratagem" and "a relic" as in singular will be pretty disappointing if that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 "A stratagem" and "a relic" as in singular will be pretty disappointing if that is true. It's in line with other chapters in C:SM marines, though. Every chapter gets one relic and strat. It's a bit disappointing since the Fists got three in their IA article, but I'm happy to see a chapter tactic. I half expected to not get one. Stoic Raptor 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Aye, I'm a little excited to see what's coming. I'm also looking forward to seeing Rik Turner's army - I really enjoyed the first look we got at it, and I'm curious to see what's new. Halandaar and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) I'd personally prefer the same amount as the crimson fists, but the emperor's spears only got what, a trait? That being said, the spears weren't through the white dwarf system. I also expect a reprint of angelos' datasheet, though some easy changes would be +1 wound at the very least to put him in line with chaptermaster in terminator armour, bs 2+ (for that krak grenade) and either another attack or change arcing swing to be 2 attacks per. And personally, the most important part of the previewed white dwarf is that David Thule's death as part of the chaos campaign is most pretty much canon despite the blood ravens winning :( Edit: holy, didn't realize the fists got 3 warlord traits and strats, with 2 relics. Really hoping for the same, consistent treatment Edited July 4, 2019 by SkimaskMohawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I didn't catch that part of Thule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I didn't catch that part of Thule. It's in the right hand column next to the picture of the primaris and a little hard to make out' "...later destroyed by Captain Davian Thule on Kronus, though with his apparent loss during the third Aurelia Crusade" . Now, it's speculative, but just mentioning a result I'd consider non-canon to begin with is way more than I d have liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I'd personally prefer the same amount as the crimson fists, but the emperor's spears only got what, a trait? That being said, the spears weren't through the white dwarf system. I also expect a reprint of angelos' datasheet, though some easy changes would be +1 wound at the very least to put him in line with chaptermaster in terminator armour, bs 2+ (for that krak grenade) and either another attack or change arcing swing to be 2 attacks per. And personally, the most important part of the previewed white dwarf is that David Thule's death as part of the chaos campaign is most pretty much canon despite the blood ravens winning Edit: holy, didn't realize the fists got 3 warlord traits and strats, with 2 relics. Really hoping for the same, consistent treatment The only easy change would be to bin that angelos model and never speak of it again. Can't believe FW would put there name to something as bad as that. Reyner 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Honestly, I've seen a head swap and it looks completely fine. You can argue that his antics in dow 3 taint the model (and they do to an extent), but I actually like it more than the artel version (with said head swap). Fire Golem and Biscuittzz 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Honestly, I've seen a head swap and it looks completely fine. You can argue that his antics in dow 3 taint the model (and they do to an extent), but I actually like it more than the artel version (with said head swap). I have to agree with that. Other than the head, which is not great but actually not that bad either, it just does not resemble Angelos (I'd recommend people to check the unpainted version which shows the sculpt much better), the rest of the model seems quite fine, and since it does not have that many Chapter-specific details, it would also make a nice base model for a terminator character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Alright, I'm sold. Gonna get a copy of it. *Knowledge is power, guard it well!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonmukluk Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Honestly, I've seen a head swap and it looks completely fine. You can argue that his antics in dow 3 taint the model (and they do to an extent), but I actually like it more than the artel version (with said head swap). Do you know what head was used, by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 This is very positive, in my opinion. I am surprised to see the Blood Ravens receive rules ahead of the Minotaurs, Red Scorpions and Charcaradons however. The index with the Crimson Fists had some nice rules and I expect this to be in similar quality. I'm not surprised. While the Red Scorpions, Minotaurs, and Charcaradons have longer history within the Wh40k world. Blood Ravens, in my opinion, are a good choice because of the video games and recognizeability outside of the tabletop. CommodusXIII 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Honestly, I've seen a head swap and it looks completely fine. You can argue that his antics in dow 3 taint the model (and they do to an extent), but I actually like it more than the artel version (with said head swap). Do you know what head was used, by any chance? It was a riever head. Part number 69 Yvonmukluk 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonmukluk Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Honestly, I've seen a head swap and it looks completely fine. You can argue that his antics in dow 3 taint the model (and they do to an extent), but I actually like it more than the artel version (with said head swap).Do you know what head was used, by any chance? It was a riever head. Part number 69 Nice, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I don't suppose you have a link to the head swap my Google Fu isn't strong :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I’m looking forward to this. Even though the price increase... But looking forward to more info on loyal Ksons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Any leak on BR CT? Trevak Dal and Wispy 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 They're arriving at gw on Friday, so I expect that's the soonest well get any info Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Posting it here aswell. The photos weren't taken by me, but here are the new rules: Hidden Content Thoughts? Harleqvin, Dark Shepherd, RolandTHTG and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) How long do you think before Gabby gets removed from the FW downloads? Also, he still has no ranged weapon, and they removed his grenades...? Edited July 15, 2019 by Harleqvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Overall, nothing too exciting. Just "another relic Pistol no one will use". The chapter tactic is actually garbage outside of powerfist fights, as not much S8+ shooting will be going into normal Marines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The first part of the chapter tactics seems rather niche, with it only working against S8+ weapons. The reroll could be nice, but sadly SM psykers generally aren’t that great. The stratagem would be very good if it allowed another cast, but only knowing a power and getting another deny aren’t that great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) The Chapter Tactic is great against Plasma but otherwise not that interesting. At least it helps with psychic stuff as well. I'm kinda mad that they got a Stratagem that should be available to every Marine chapter. The relic pistol is actually pretty strong on models without access to Plasma pistols though. Edited July 15, 2019 by sfPanzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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