Crimson cowboy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Val also said he has seen the model and that it was amazing but source wanted to wait on the reveal so out of respect he did Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I still cannot see ALL of our datasheets in a campaign book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Guys lets keep the discussion to BT, if you want to discuss the IF character please do so in the N&R or IF forums. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirnov Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 To stay on topic, these leaks pretty much confirm that we have a seaparate book, but really nothing new here ( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Still very curious to see just how much space CF are given in the Imperial Fist supplement, since we know they're in there now. If they're just getting barebones coverage there, then it seems really strange to take out our presence from that book to just stick it in as some foot note in some witchening campaign book. It'd be less effort just give us a single or half-page of lore, and stick or data sheets on another 2 pages and call it a day... so why not do that, but instead actively dick us over in another non codex supplement book? It just doesn't make sense. Â And since squatting was never on the table, conceivably, what ARE getting can only go up from there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Still very curious to see just how much And since squatting was never on the table, conceivably, what ARE getting can only go up from there? I'm crossing my fingers that the plan was to give us a few pages in the Fists supplement, but after a positive response in the community survey, they decided to delay the release and give us more stuff. One can dream, eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Rules is a given. Besides that we have to wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2edition Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Its a good thing to be absent from the IF supplement. It also is what I expected given we got our own section on the GW store, and CF got lumped into the IF section. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Well it's not just rules, that's just the minimum and obviously something wer'e getting, and if it was just that it could literally have been placed anywhere. Getting our own supplement would've meant 60-70 or more pages, most of which would've been fluff. Now, since the rumors says we aren't, and they've more or less been spot on on all counts so far, it begs the question what we ARE getting. Rumor is a spot in a campaign book, which just increasingly seems like a strange decision, since I doubt such a spot would stop to devout more than a handfull pages for us. Which begs the question why NOT place us in the IF book? It just doesn't quite add up.  Or how much room has a faction (any faction) previously at most gotten in a campaign book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What did the Black Legion get in Vigilus 2? I didnt buy it as there seemed to be no point as a loyalist player. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 If we want to dream than we could suspect that this entry would be a test for a whole codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What did the Black Legion get in Vigilus 2? I didnt buy it as there seemed to be no point as a loyalist player. new abaddon. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What did the Black Legion get in Vigilus 2? I didnt buy it as there seemed to be no point as a loyalist player.  A unique detachment warlord traits and relics and Abaddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What about fluff? Was there focus on them, or just their role on Vigilus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyWalrus Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I'm half expecting us to not have doctrines at all to be honest. They're a Codex Astartes thing, aren't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Talarian Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Based on the most recent article I think we’re better suited in the campaign book.  Seem to have new models, and evidently new rules. I have high hopes and am super pumped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 We are not getting a codex separate from the C:SM, half of our rules are already in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Didn't vigilus 2 come with an update for the CSM codex or am i misremembering that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Yep it was get that or the reprint codex for CSM. Â Edit: Also my hype is up for not being in the IF supplement but yes it could just be a simple relocation. Â At least it will be some more exposure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 not being in the IF supplement has to potential to be really good, we just don't know yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The more relavent question if we can access the rules there at all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The IF supplement? I can't see how that could possibly be the case, since we're our own thing. Any rules for successors to do so is for all the other successors without an identity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 We are not getting a codex separate from the C:SM, half of our rules are already in it.Such was the case for UM,WS, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Â We are not getting a codex separate from the C:SM, half of our rules are already in it.Such was the case for UM,WS, etc. Yes, quite. My point was that it seems some people think we're getting a whole new codex, as opposed to a supplement for the existing one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The IF supplement? I can't see how that could possibly be the case, since we're our own thing. Any rules for successors to do so is for all the other successors without an identity We specifically couldn't use their stuff in the last codex. We're too divergent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/38/#findComment-5391808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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