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He already said no Grimaldus and no Helbracht and non of the upgrade sprues have been as complete as the Templar one so I’m thinking at best all templars will get is a Primaris EC with a loin cloth again and nothing else. Edited by Marshal Rohr

I assume some of these books will cover more than 2 armies.

Well, Valrak found the SoB icon in the code, and apparently it goes with the second region, and Kikasstou says Volume 2 has Black Templars and CSM, so I assume they're all in the same book, even if the Sisters' presence is more narrative than anything else, since they'll be getting their Codex around the same time, if the date given is correct.

 

And Phoenix rising will probably include rules for Harlequins, even if they're not the major players.

Edited by DeadFingers

It could also simply be that you get two or more books for each of the 4 warzones, but they're interleafed: vol1 is on Iyanden, 2 Ophelia (?), 3 on Baal and 4 on Armageddon (?), then vol5 is back to Iyanden with Slaanesh attacking the survivors of the civil war, vol6 with extra SoB/Ecclesiarchy releases, and we get to book 7 with necrons on Baal and book 8 back on Armageddon with the world eaters or new guard...

 

Something along those lines?

If we're getting 3 books before Xmas I can't see a huge number of model releases coming alongside them.

 

We still have 4 Astartes releases to slot in (not counting books, upgrade kits, datacards, etc) as well as the SoB boxset...

Edited by Ishagu

depends on the model release... now if only a few of the books come with a limited model release then yeah I can see one a month.

 

so most of the rules within the books are redos of existing data sheets or add relics / wargear / warlord traits etc

They don't need to have model releases for most of them really, depending on the factions - CE and DE are getting some, but we've heard of no rumours for the others. BA and SW already have their upgrade kits, BT need one but probably won't get any more than that. If the chaos on the other side are going to be from undivided legions there's no reason to think they'd get any more than a character each (at most)...

 

On the other hand, it sounds like Ghaz and Ragnar are going to get a box, and at this point it definitely looks like Jain Zarr and Drazhar will be included in a box, so one can imagine something similar for the other books.

 

I somehow doubt they'll have Dante cross the Rubicon, or Mephiston (Tycho's dead for real right?) But a Primaris Corbulo could be pretty awesome. It sounds like they're not primarising Helbrecht or Grimaldus, but there's no reason they can't do something similar for the Emperor's Champion.

I suppose Bile could be updated...

 

So yeah, I imagine we'll see some updated characters, perhaps new Noise Marines and Berserkers (on their own) if we're lucky, but little more

An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders. Edited by Marshal Rohr

An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders.

 

The existence of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.

Edited by sfPanzer

 

The existance of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.

The Victrix Guard are nearly characters though aren't they?

 

 

Yes, also I didn't make that up, Andy Clark said it so it has some traction. 

Edited by Marshal Rohr

 

 

The existance of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.

The Victrix Guard are nearly characters though aren't they?

 

 

Yes, also I didn't make that up, Andy Clark said it so it has some traction. 

 

 

I never claimed you made that up. I believe you, I just don't believe the statement itself. 

An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders.

 

Yikes cant see this going over well.

you mean actually return the marine codexs to the codex feel :ohmy.:

 

ie Sanguinary guard, where just jump pack vets

death company where a random chance (3rd ed Death Coy)

Ravenwing arent the only bikes in the DA chapater

etc etc

 

Well kinda. Although they explicitly named BA, DA, SW as non-Codex compliant just recently so returning to the codex feel makes no sense even if it were a good idea (which I don't agree on).

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