Sete Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) End of november is great news, 2 to 3 months earlier than i expected Still no mention of models worries me a bit, but im positive that, like eldar, something will come. Edited October 2, 2019 by Sete betrayer41 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) He already said no Grimaldus and no Helbracht and non of the upgrade sprues have been as complete as the Templar one so I’m thinking at best all templars will get is a Primaris EC with a loin cloth again and nothing else. Edited October 2, 2019 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I assume some of these books will cover more than 2 armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I assume some of these books will cover more than 2 armies. Well, Valrak found the SoB icon in the code, and apparently it goes with the second region, and Kikasstou says Volume 2 has Black Templars and CSM, so I assume they're all in the same book, even if the Sisters' presence is more narrative than anything else, since they'll be getting their Codex around the same time, if the date given is correct. And Phoenix rising will probably include rules for Harlequins, even if they're not the major players. Edited October 3, 2019 by DeadFingers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I never thought this would be just 4 books. It would not be able to cover all what, 25+ factions, it promised to cover in a meaningfull way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Theyre in a Catch 22 with the release schedule but I like the rapid release, otherwise theres too many armies (still) being left behind with cool or even up to date stuff Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 It could also simply be that you get two or more books for each of the 4 warzones, but they're interleafed: vol1 is on Iyanden, 2 Ophelia (?), 3 on Baal and 4 on Armageddon (?), then vol5 is back to Iyanden with Slaanesh attacking the survivors of the civil war, vol6 with extra SoB/Ecclesiarchy releases, and we get to book 7 with necrons on Baal and book 8 back on Armageddon with the world eaters or new guard... Something along those lines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) If we're getting 3 books before Xmas I can't see a huge number of model releases coming alongside them. We still have 4 Astartes releases to slot in (not counting books, upgrade kits, datacards, etc) as well as the SoB boxset... Edited October 3, 2019 by Ishagu Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Book 3 next year i bet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The fast release schedule makes sense to me. Very much looking forward to PA3 myself, and hope Kkikastous's comment that this release before end of this year is correct. 1 book a month seems fine to me, why not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 depends on the model release... now if only a few of the books come with a limited model release then yeah I can see one a month. so most of the rules within the books are redos of existing data sheets or add relics / wargear / warlord traits etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 They don't need to have model releases for most of them really, depending on the factions - CE and DE are getting some, but we've heard of no rumours for the others. BA and SW already have their upgrade kits, BT need one but probably won't get any more than that. If the chaos on the other side are going to be from undivided legions there's no reason to think they'd get any more than a character each (at most)... On the other hand, it sounds like Ghaz and Ragnar are going to get a box, and at this point it definitely looks like Jain Zarr and Drazhar will be included in a box, so one can imagine something similar for the other books. I somehow doubt they'll have Dante cross the Rubicon, or Mephiston (Tycho's dead for real right?) But a Primaris Corbulo could be pretty awesome. It sounds like they're not primarising Helbrecht or Grimaldus, but there's no reason they can't do something similar for the Emperor's Champion. I suppose Bile could be updated... So yeah, I imagine we'll see some updated characters, perhaps new Noise Marines and Berserkers (on their own) if we're lucky, but little more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Dante is definitely going to cross it, sooner or later. pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Dante is definitely going to cross it, sooner or later.I could actually see him dying for some reason - it would be a shame as he's one of the rare BA I actually like Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 If they wanted to kill him they would've done so with Devastation of Baal. pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Yesterdays facts are not necessarily todays.. So while they may not have wanted to bump him off at Baal, prehaps they will later as a catalyst to a primarchs return (note not necessarily Sanguinius') Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders. Edited October 3, 2019 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders. The existence of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that. Edited October 3, 2019 by sfPanzer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The existance of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.The Victrix Guard are nearly characters though aren't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) The existance of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.The Victrix Guard are nearly characters though aren't they? Yes, also I didn't make that up, Andy Clark said it so it has some traction. Edited October 3, 2019 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The existance of Victrix Guard makes me doubt that.The Victrix Guard are nearly characters though aren't they? Yes, also I didn't make that up, Andy Clark said it so it has some traction. I never claimed you made that up. I believe you, I just don't believe the statement itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 An interesting tidbit from the latest voxcast was that they don’t want to do special units for space marines anymore, and focus on using the add ins and card things to make different play styles. That makes me doubt any of these Psychic Awakening releases will have new space marines units that aren’t just generics and characters. Thing like Sanguinary Guard, Death Company, Ravenwing, and Deathwing will all become either paintschemes or formations/strategems like Indomitus Crusaders. Yikes cant see this going over well. pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 you mean actually return the marine codexs to the codex feel ie Sanguinary guard, where just jump pack vets death company where a random chance (3rd ed Death Coy) Ravenwing arent the only bikes in the DA chapater etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 That could just mean moving the rules from the datasheet to the card or whatever they do. Seems a bit of a pointless exercise? Maybe I'm missing something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 you mean actually return the marine codexs to the codex feel ie Sanguinary guard, where just jump pack vets death company where a random chance (3rd ed Death Coy) Ravenwing arent the only bikes in the DA chapater etc etc Well kinda. Although they explicitly named BA, DA, SW as non-Codex compliant just recently so returning to the codex feel makes no sense even if it were a good idea (which I don't agree on). pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/23/#findComment-5400911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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