Jarl Caldersson Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 While I agree with your logic, could Saga of the Beast be neutral? The saga part referring to the Wolves? Since 'The Beast' series, anything stating the beast is pretty much dealing with the Orks. Even a few of the novels "the beast" is a term referring to Ork as a whole, much like "the hungering maw" refers to nids. SW are often wolfkin or wolves or wulfen terms. However it doesn't mean its not SW vs Ork. However if I went to a random 40m player and said "the beast" 99% of the time they will think of Orks. Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Sure but you could say the exact same thing about “saga” if we’re trimming words and not everyone reads BL. If anything I would argue it’s more wolf than ork TBH. I mean we literally have a trait called saga of the beast(slayer). Edited December 2, 2019 by PeteySödes Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Part of me really wants to see a Ragnar-Inceptor with a wide blade frost-spear and master-crafted assault bolter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Oh man, that does sound sick. While I’m not the biggest fan of the inceptors, that does sound cool. And yes, I totally agree we are all speculating... but as long as you are fully aware, that’s part of the fun, no? Edited December 2, 2019 by tangoalphatwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 When I saw the title I didn't think anything other than Wolves (Saga) and Orks (Beast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 March 21 is my guess on the date, because of this Fang_Guard23, Rune Priest Jbickb and Jarl Caldersson 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 March 21 is my guess on the date, because of this Careful though, the exact same thing was said with ashes of prospero. Temper the expectations brothers. Jarl Caldersson and Fang_Guard23 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) If its a paperback release rather than a new release/omnibus edition than would dampen it Pupdate "This omnibus edition collects together for the first time the novels Ragnar Blackmane, Curse of the Wulfen, Legacy of Russ and The Hunt for Logan Grimnar as well as the novellas Blood on the Mountain and Arjac Rockfist, and a host of short stories." I smell tie in. Edited December 2, 2019 by Dark Shepherd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 We may or may not get Primaris Ragnar but let's look at how well Blood Angel's did in PA3 just from rules. I think it is safe to assume we will get Doctrines and a Super-Doctrine (whether they are the same as the codex ones remains to be seen but at least we should see a decent power-up). Access to new stratagems and wargear is always handy too. Combined with the points drops we seem to be getting in CA19 means Wolves look like being in a better place than we have been for pretty much all of 8th. Not necessarily top-tier competitive but at least we should no longer feel like we are fighting with one hand (paw?) tied behind our backs. Primaris Ragnar would be cool, but upgrading the army as a whole to be more competitive has to be real prize here. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) I'm not long in tooth, but I know GW. They will give us what they want to and ideally that means Primaris of one of our older models. Anything else will be wild speculation or educated guesses. I say we hunt the facts and see how Dark Angels turn out in the next book. Only then can we say for certain where our fate lies. That being said, I'm a hopeful young lad. I would love to see a big release, maybe even a return of Russ to bring balance to the Imperium as it lays fractured and broken assailed on all sides. However, I'm holding my expectations at a primaris character so the fall is not as hard as all the past ones have been. We will bide our time and when they least expect the Pack will be unleashed! For Russ and the Allfather! May we see glory in March Edited December 2, 2019 by The Saint Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Ragnar is I think the oldest in use model in all of GW. He has been the Great Wolf in Waiting for twenty plus years at this point. I fully expect and frankly hope he gets a Primaris upgrade to get a new model and better rules for him. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Ragnar is I think the oldest in use model in all of GW. He has been the Great Wolf in Waiting for twenty plus years at this point. I fully expect and frankly hope he gets a Primaris upgrade to get a new model and better rules for him. Yup. The only special characters older than Ragnar are the original Yarrick and Ghazkull and both were replaced sometime in 3rd edition IIRC. His contemporaries (Ulrik and Njal) have both also been redone. Time for a refresh if ever there was one. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Njal didn’t really get an upgrade just a variant. His old ass model is still available. With all the others getting a psyker why would they do the same for Njal? If the Dark Angel gets a new psyker I think a stronger case will be made for Njal. Don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE to see a Primaris Ragnar, but it’s the called psychic awakening, not Primaris awakening. Just my thoughts. NightHowler 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Were the dirty space elves both psykers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The special characters are gestalt/powered by the psychic energy of multiple beings. Their special abilities, and the additional exarch powers for the Banshees (and others in the book) are a psychic manifestation. So while they are not psykers in the sense of having psychic powers to use in the psychic phase, yes the model release related to the psychic awakening bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Edit: Splog has it covered. Edited December 3, 2019 by Aothaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Were the dirty space elves both psykers? Dirty space elves! Hahahaha. Touché. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 What about the white scars? They didn't get a primaris psykers right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 What about the white scars? They didn't get a primaris psykers right? Codex marines were represented in faith and fury, and that book got chaos sorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 What about the white scars? They didn't get a primaris psykers right?Codex marines were represented in faith and fury, and that book got chaos sorcerer Sorry I meant as their new primaris model. I guess that was pre the psychic awakening books. So I may be asking a moot question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 We may or may not get Primaris Ragnar but let's look at how well Blood Angel's did in PA3 just from rules. I think it is safe to assume we will get Doctrines and a Super-Doctrine (whether they are the same as the codex ones remains to be seen but at least we should see a decent power-up). Access to new stratagems and wargear is always handy too. Combined with the points drops we seem to be getting in CA19 means Wolves look like being in a better place than we have been for pretty much all of 8th. Not necessarily top-tier competitive but at least we should no longer feel like we are fighting with one hand (paw?) tied behind our backs. Primaris Ragnar would be cool, but upgrading the army as a whole to be more competitive has to be real prize here. Completely agree we need the rule overhaul the most. Not too worried about what character we get, though I would love a priest model that builds either a rune or wolf priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 We may or may not get Primaris Ragnar but let's look at how well Blood Angel's did in PA3 just from rules. I think it is safe to assume we will get Doctrines and a Super-Doctrine (whether they are the same as the codex ones remains to be seen but at least we should see a decent power-up). Access to new stratagems and wargear is always handy too. Combined with the points drops we seem to be getting in CA19 means Wolves look like being in a better place than we have been for pretty much all of 8th. Not necessarily top-tier competitive but at least we should no longer feel like we are fighting with one hand (paw?) tied behind our backs. Primaris Ragnar would be cool, but upgrading the army as a whole to be more competitive has to be real prize here. Completely agree we need the rule overhaul the most. Not too worried about what character we get, though I would love a priest model that builds either a rune or wolf priest. That would be bad ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 ...aside from Ulrik, there is no Wolf Priest model to buy at all... Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 They tend to use the rune priest as both. Though that is an old model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 ...aside from Ulrik, there is no Wolf Priest model to buy at all... No specific one, no. They want you to kitbash it from chaplain, rune priest, or use the primaris chaplain. Would be nice to get a dedicated wolf priest, but I feel there is many other things GW needs to focus on first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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