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This stratagem is used right after an enemy unit that charged has fought. Select one of your own eligible units and fight with it next.

 

Yeah so they can only use it on your turn if you fight with a unit that charged.

 

Good catch Saint Ragnar.

I just hope that i like the Model, considering that I am painting Blackmanes (Although I had the Audacity to change up Shoulderpad Colors), like for many Bill Kings Books where my first 40k Novels and to this day hold a special Place. Would love to add a proper 21st Century Ragnar to my Collection. But lately Characters have been Hit and Miss for me. Here is hoping.

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From Valrak vid...always has been a boxset in March plus in coincides with end of UK tax year so pumpa up figures for investors (think theyre a new Primaris unit) etc

Could just be cos Ghaz and Ragnar are big model releases but they are hyping up this book more than others eg banner on warcom

I'll be very upset if Ragnar is in a box. Not because I will use Ragnar but because our 2 unique models will both be in box's while everyone else's is in clamshells.

 

From Valrak vid...always has been a boxset in March plus in coincides with end of UK tax year so pumpa up figures for investors (think theyre a new Primaris unit) etc

Could just be cos Ghaz and Ragnar are big model releases but they are hyping up this book more than others eg banner on warcom

I'll be very upset if Ragnar is in a box. Not because I will use Ragnar but because our 2 unique models will both be in box's while everyone else's is in clamshells.

Just hope the Ork half is decent so you can find people to split it with :)

If our half is just generic/existing stuff esp intercessors Id be miffed too about having to fork out on a box

i hope its not a box because we will get no new models and everything will be basically a tax to get ragnar (most of us already have enough intercessors, aggressors etc) I dont want to wait half a year to get him separately.

 

If you ask me ... from a marketing perspective...this will probably be a box in order to push as many "already released" models as they can along the two combatants with the new sculpts.

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He's gonna be blown off the board 10a on the charge?

 

He will be priority 1

With those aura buffs, there is no reason for him to be charging alone. Let him lead his brothers to maximise protection for being a Character. Once in melee, make sure you take out anything that can threaten him. A WGBL with Armour of Russ to back him would make sure that key enemy opponents strike last.

 

 

 

AOR doesn't prevent interrupting I believe.

 

The belt of russ which is what Ragnar will have  is onlt the in vuln but the AoR allows nominating a unit to strike last but Ragnar will not be able to take this as he is a named character.

 

 

He's gonna be blown off the board 10a on the charge?

 

He will be priority 1

With those aura buffs, there is no reason for him to be charging alone. Let him lead his brothers to maximise protection for being a Character. Once in melee, make sure you take out anything that can threaten him. A WGBL with Armour of Russ to back him would make sure that key enemy opponents strike last.

 

 

 

AOR doesn't prevent interrupting I believe.

 

The belt of russ which is what Ragnar will have  is onlt the in vuln but the AoR allows nominating a unit to strike last but Ragnar will not be able to take this as he is a named character.

 

BUT he should have the same Saga if he's our warlord which is Warrior born, which is Always strike first.

Ragnar looks fun but iam more interested in our special rules (litanies, warlord traits, relics, doctrines etc) ...damn all that waiting...

I hope that they want push the preorder article fo the next Sunday...we need it this Sunday :P

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He's gonna be blown off the board 10a on the charge?

 

He will be priority 1

With those aura buffs, there is no reason for him to be charging alone. Let him lead his brothers to maximise protection for being a Character. Once in melee, make sure you take out anything that can threaten him. A WGBL with Armour of Russ to back him would make sure that key enemy opponents strike last.

 

 

 

AOR doesn't prevent interrupting I believe.

 

The belt of russ which is what Ragnar will have  is onlt the in vuln but the AoR allows nominating a unit to strike last but Ragnar will not be able to take this as he is a named character.

 

BUT he should have the same Saga if he's our warlord which is Warrior born, which is Always strike first.

 

 

Oh that's true I normally use Bjorn as my warlord though so wasn't sure about ragnars. I mean im thinking of giving him wulfen body gaurds

 

Ragnar looks fun but iam more interested in our special rules (litanies, warlord traits, relics, doctrines etc) ...damn all that waiting...

I hope that they want push the preorder article fo the next Sunday...we need it this Sunday :tongue.:

 

YEEEEAAASSS I cant wait to see these

My thought if we do get litanies is Wolf priest + Ragnar + 6 aggressors.

 

On the hunt Ragnar and the Aggressors (priest can jump pack in)

 

7" charge with rerolling failures, with 25 powerfist attacks from our Primaris friends and the 10 from Ragnar? Plus 18 wounds of T5 to protect Rags from being shot off the table.

My thought if we do get litanies is Wolf priest + Ragnar + 6 aggressors.

 

On the hunt Ragnar and the Aggressors (priest can jump pack in)

 

7" charge with rerolling failures, with 25 powerfist attacks from our Primaris friends and the 10 from Ragnar? Plus 18 wounds of T5 to protect Rags from being shot off the table.

Possible but tricky. Canticle of Hate is chanted at the beginning of the Battle Round so you cannot use it if the Priest has arrived from Reserves. This means your Priest will need to Jump towards your intended arrival area ready for T2. Blood Angels have it easier in that they can use "Upon Wings of Fire" to redeploy their Chaplain without losing the Canticle.

 

Not saying it is impossible, just that it is a little trickier for us to pull off.

 

Another option I was thinking of is this one which substitutes TDA WG for Aggressors and so saves you a some CPs. Put Ragnar in something like an Impulsor for protection and drive him up the field T1. Jump Pack priest with Canticle of Hate follows just behind and hides behind the Impulsor. Then on T2, Ragnar hops out and you DS a group of heavy hitters like TDA Wolf Guard around him to benefit from his reroll charges aura and the Priest's Canticle (assuming Valrak's leaks are accurate). Rerolling 7" charges for 2-3 units of Deep Striking Hammernators is starting to look a pretty dangerous.

Think Ragnar and hopefuilly Wolf Guard / Grey Hunter Intercessors (Stragegem like the Death Company one) can follow my Thunderwolves around in an Impulsor.

 

To much to hope they could go in the new Landspeeder when it's released, although now you've said that it's all I want in the world (except Wolves for characters as wargear and Canids the same for Imperial Guard characters)!

Maybe instead of Saga of the Warrior Born he will get Saga of the Hunter in his new form. That would at least allow him to advance and charge, plus he would get his own re-roll. I doubt that will be the case but it's in the realm of possible. Maybe he will even get his points in the book and we won't need a day one FAQ for anything this time!

Maybe instead of Saga of the Warrior Born he will get Saga of the Hunter in his new form. That would at least allow him to advance and charge, plus he would get his own re-roll. I doubt that will be the case but it's in the realm of possible. Maybe he will even get his points in the book and we won't need a day one FAQ for anything this time!

after that rules change and most space marine codex's becoming codex compliant is likely going to mean that the wolves could be getting a day 1 FAQ 

Think Ragnar and hopefuilly Wolf Guard / Grey Hunter Intercessors (Stragegem like the Death Company one) can follow my Thunderwolves around in an Impulsor.

 

To much to hope they could go in the new Landspeeder when it's released, although now you've said that it's all I want in the world (except Wolves for characters as wargear and Canids the same for Imperial Guard characters)!

Wolf Guard intercessors would have base of 4 attacks on charge, 5 if Wulfen/Wulfen stone nearby, 6 if you get into Arjac Shenanigans but if you can wolf guard up troops then he becomes more worthwhile

 

Sergeant has chainsword thats 22 attacks base. Or 5 powerfist attacks base

 

Heres hoping Landspeeder has general primaris transport ability (except Gravis)

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I'd really like a primaris retro fit option for our flyer, so we could use it as a primaris transport. They could charge points or cp and restrict it to just primaris.

I could hope for that, would be a way to balance it. So long as wulfen ignore transport restrictions

 

Heres hoping Landspeeder has general primaris transport ability (except Gravis)

What would you like to see that is not offered by the Impulsor?

Impulsors still good too

 

But (potentially) range, speed, toughness, capacity, weapons, deepstrike. Theyre all known unknowns at this stage though

Valrak put up a video and Faet covered it. Seems the statline and that fact that he is Primaris is "confirmed" at the moment with a model reveal expected the 9th. Link below to the post which contains the video, I haven't personally watched it yet.

 

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2020/03/ragnar-blackmane-rules-reveal-he.html?m=1

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