Panzer Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Alright I skipped SS82 video review to the DC Intercessors. Be prepared to be even more underwhelmed, guys. Standard equip is the same as regular Intercessors They can take all the Bolt rifle variants same as regular Intercessors one model in 5 can take an auxiliary grenade launcher same as regular Intercessors ONE model can take a chainsword, power fist, thunder hammer or power fist ONE model can take a chainsword or hand flamer No sergeant equivalent The important take aways here are that the "second melee weapon" is really just a chainsword, not a TH or such, the unit has max LD of 7 because there's no Sergeant equivalent and finally, the most ridiculous thing, a DC Intercessor with Thunderhammer has the EXACT same amount of attacks than an Intercessor Sergeant with Thunderhammer and after the first round of combat even one less since black rage runs out while the sergeant buff doesn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) There, happy Screenshot from GMG's review Edited November 30, 2019 by Black_Sky SnorriSnorrison and Dont-Be-Haten 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Tabletop Tactics has a battlereport up using chapter approved and Blood of Baal, Blood Angels vs Tyranids for those who are curious. https://youtu.be/AsPzgyA5NVA Aothaine and SnorriSnorrison 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Quickly, someone wake Blindhamster! :D Hammernators are weirdly good right now. “Only” need an 8 on the charge, Fury of the First with +1 to hit negating the minus from hammers...I’ll give them another go without the Stormraven! Edit: go, I’ll give them another go. Edited November 30, 2019 by SnorriSnorrison Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Quickly, someone wake Blindhamster! :D Hammernators are weirdly good right now. “Only” need an 8 on the charge, Fury of the First with +1 to hit negating the minus from hammers...I’ll give them another without the Stormraven! Maybe Luke will actually win one with the BA? Probably not since he's a trash player who only blows his CP on re-rolls and never anything else. SnorriSnorrison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Quickly, someone wake Blindhamster! :D Hammernators are weirdly good right now. “Only” need an 8 on the charge, Fury of the First with +1 to hit negating the minus from hammers...I’ll give them another without the Stormraven! Maybe Luke will actually win one with the BA? Probably not since he's a trash player who only blows his CP on re-rolls and never anything else. True, he plays BA in 8th like BA in 6th, as if Stratagems didn’t exist and only the re-roll was new. I think I’ve seen him use Forlorn Fury once though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Alright I skipped SS82 video review to the DC Intercessors. Be prepared to be even more underwhelmed, guys. Standard equip is the same as regular Intercessors They can take all the Bolt rifle variants same as regular Intercessors one model in 5 can take an auxiliary grenade launcher same as regular Intercessors ONE model can take a chainsword, power fist, thunder hammer or power fist ONE model can take a chainsword or hand flamer No sergeant equivalent The important take aways here are that the "second melee weapon" is really just a chainsword, not a TH or such, the unit has max LD of 7 because there's no Sergeant equivalent and finally, the most ridiculous thing, a DC Intercessor with Thunderhammer has the EXACT same amount of attacks than an Intercessor Sergeant with Thunderhammer and after the first round of combat even one less since black rage runs out while the sergeant buff doesn't. Yikes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggaro Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 wow.. sang priest with jump packs are officially a thing Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 wow.. sang priest with jump packs are officially a thing Fantastic news, even if a little bit of a surprise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Sang Priests don't have 'Angels of Death'.....why? Edited November 30, 2019 by Angel_of_Blood Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Can you imagine MC hammer + Artisans ....... oof For now. Its cheeky but RAW we can have damage 5 THs. RAI it will only be 4. The sticker being RAW it doesn't work on relics of BAAL where MC turns the weapon into a CHAPTER Relic. Confirmed we can't do this. All Special Issue wargear counts as Relics of Baal. Bummer on that. Quake Bolts are actually pretty useful! Icon of the Angel going to be really good also for successors! Flesh Tearers get double deny overwatch smash captains. D: Edited November 30, 2019 by Dont-Be-Haten Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Blood Angels can get +2 to charge with phobos and terminators with warlord traits and stratagems with Red Thirst. Edited November 30, 2019 by Aothaine Sea-People 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 So I'm still a little rusty on 8th as I've not been playing much and kept up to date fully. But the new relic for Sang Ancients. Says it applies to any units within 6" at the start of the movement phase. So this won't apply to any that deep strike right? As they don't come on to the board until the end of the movement phase. And I've seen a few people say that it makes it +2 to charge, but it's +2 to the movement characteristic, not just +2 to any movement. Since charges go off the dice roll, how would it apply to charging? It says it's in play until the end of that turn, I'm assuming that's just to make it apply to advancing as well right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 So I'm still a little rusty on 8th as I've not been playing much and kept up to date fully. But the new relic for Sang Ancients. Says it applies to any units within 6" at the start of the movement phase. So this won't apply to any that deep strike right? As they don't come on to the board until the end of the movement phase. And I've seen a few people say that it makes it +2 to charge, but it's +2 to the movement characteristic, not just +2 to any movement. Since charges go off the dice roll, how would it apply to charging? It says it's in play until the end of that turn, I'm assuming that's just to make it apply to advancing as well right? It just makes Jump packs have a 14" movement instead of 12" movement. It doesn't do anything for Charges. If it was meant to give +2 to charge then it would specifically say, add 2 to the charge total etc. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 has anyone been able to figure out how many pooints a sanguinary priest is with a jump pack? i watched a review and a sang priest is 60 but doesn't mention the price of the jump pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuralshock Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) has anyone been able to figure out how many pooints a sanguinary priest is with a jump pack? i watched a review and a sang priest is 60 but doesn't mention the price of the jump pack Sanguinary priest w/ JP is an official codex option now, and it's down 15 points Edited November 30, 2019 by Neuralshock Dolchiate Remembrancer, Karhedron and Silverson 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Unfortunate that we don't gain access to the best utility character in the game i.e. chapter master. (will have to continue to house rule this stratagem).But we now have access to some really fun and exciting new things. Combat doctrines being #1 and Veteran Intercessors #2 Some of the new relics are actually very interesting. Quake Bolts allowing for 2+ hits with thunder hammers and Powerfists as well as combinations from other characters and abilities. SnorriSnorrison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emissary Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I guess I am missing something. Why is everyone falling all over themselves for the veteran intercessors? I'm looking at 1 cp for +1 attack for intercessors in an army that needs a lot of cp. It's nice, but it seems like everyone is saying it is some new key to a fantastic army. What am I missing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I’m prepared to go Brigade every game just because of the amount of command points needed. 3 for the extra relics, done, then Vet Intercessors, some shenanigans on the way as well...blimey, it’s like it’s Black Friday before every game from now on... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Unfortunate that we don't gain access to the best utility character in the game i.e. chapter master. (will have to continue to house rule this stratagem). But we now have access to some really fun and exciting new things. Combat doctrines being #1 and Veteran Intercessors #2 Some of the new relics are actually very interesting. Quake Bolts allowing for 2+ hits with thunder hammers and Powerfists as well as combinations from other characters and abilities. Are Veteran Intercessors confirmed? Dont-Be-Haten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Unfortunate that we don't gain access to the best utility character in the game i.e. chapter master. (will have to continue to house rule this stratagem). But we now have access to some really fun and exciting new things. Combat doctrines being #1 and Veteran Intercessors #2 Some of the new relics are actually very interesting. Quake Bolts allowing for 2+ hits with thunder hammers and Powerfists as well as combinations from other characters and abilities. Are Veteran Intercessors confirmed? Yes they are. Clear shots in multiple review videos confirm it. Edit: Also the screenshot about twenty posts above... Edited November 30, 2019 by Dumah Dont-Be-Haten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Unfortunate that we don't gain access to the best utility character in the game i.e. chapter master. (will have to continue to house rule this stratagem). But we now have access to some really fun and exciting new things. Combat doctrines being #1 and Veteran Intercessors #2 Some of the new relics are actually very interesting. Quake Bolts allowing for 2+ hits with thunder hammers and Powerfists as well as combinations from other characters and abilities. Are Veteran Intercessors confirmed? Yes, Black_Sky posted a picture on the previous page I believe. Edit: Ninja’d and just scroll up a few posts, mate ^^ Edited November 30, 2019 by SnorriSnorrison Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Trajan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) How many points is now the sanguinary priest with jump pack? Edited November 30, 2019 by Master_Trajan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Quickly, someone wake Blindhamster! :D Hammernators are weirdly good right now. “Only” need an 8 on the charge, Fury of the First with +1 to hit negating the minus from hammers...I’ll give them another go without the Stormraven! Edit: go, I’ll give them another go. Hehe I love that I had managed to gain recognition as the guy that wanted veteran intercessors :D You can bet your bottom dollar that I'm going to do some:D Sanguinary priest DOESN'T have the Angel's of death rule :/ interesting. Wonder if it was intentional or just a mistake?! I'm excited to go through the various extra strats included! SnorriSnorrison and Indefragable 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Pretty sure it’s a typo. Lemartes doesn’t have the black rage rule, either, while he definitely has had it before. They’ll probably have to FAQ that in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/34/#findComment-5437787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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