Beren Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/20/the-titan-legions-of-ryza/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Magna's rules are shaping up nicely, very pleased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I have to ask. Is it only Imperial Titans? Or are there other races? Tau? Nids? Eldar? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b0/c0/2c/b0c02c32705aded78e2b8ac00dd2c676--warhammer--humour.jpg INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Wow, the "Enigmatic" warlord trait for Gore Crows sounds great. Drop your warlord first then reset his position last? That sounds awesome for good players (unlike me) who know how to make the most of movement shenanigans. mooftak 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Woah woah woah... I am feeling so happy. Some for Ryza. Cannot wait to have the suplement and maybe some transfers for Crucius! BTW, Legio Magna scheme is so rad. Definetely if I ever had to betray the Throne, I will go with them. And I like how Legio Vulturum colors match those of house Malinax, their pals from Xana II. depthcharge12 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Magna will be nasty with Ferrox and Mandatum maniples. We've only seen half their rules and they already have a lot of synergy.I think it's worth noting that the Honorum buff activates regardless of which direction you moved in, despite the fluff description of advancing forward. It doesn't look worth going out of your way for unless you have a load of structural damage, but I guess it's nice to have when you do get there.Fajita Fan is on it. Vulturum's Enigmatic trait is a clear winner among those traits until we know what the heck Cull the Weak does, but it's almost certainly a Legio-specific strat of theirs (long odds that it's a generic strat in the book?). A free redeploy on your Princeps Seniores is a mean trick. Experimental Vessel is nice but just not as reliable or powerful as Enigmatic or some of the rulebook traits like Dominant Strategist. These guys are looking like they'll have a bizarre rule set so far but at least it's interesting. This is also our first taste of Osedax's rules! Blood Begets Blood looks like it could be a little difficult to trigger deliberately, and restricting to closest targets and taking 2 heat hurts a lot. But it applies to every Osedax Titan in your force and can be an out-of-combat-phase round of shooting depending on when you have a Titan go Catastrophic. I really like their heraldry so hopefully the rest turns out well. depthcharge12 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Enigmatic is pretty neat, as are the rules for the other legions we have rules for now. Honoriam’s was weirdly worded and took me a second to understand but I like that it matches the Crusader aspect (battletech crusader clans anybody?). I’d love to see the new maniples and strats, but this is a great start :) Osedax has a beautiful scheme but sad to hear they are virtually extinct. Vulturum’s scheme has the cool bone color tie into Malinax and Xana. Magna has some cool rules with going aggressive for a turn while taking extra damage in return. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 The Osedax one looks interesting as extra shooting is always good. It's arguably worse than the Fureans Offensive Surge stratagem, though it does apply to all your engines no matter what maniple they're in... except for the dead one. It's an advantage that you fire out of sequence. It is fairly likely to go off late in a combat phase, when engines will have lost their shields. There's potential for it to do major damage. We'll have to see their other strats to tell whether they're powerful overall, but so far these Legios all look pretty interesting. It's shaping up to be a good book. For me personally it's awkward that Taranis are getting rules. I play Taranis in 40k, so I feel quite a lot of loyalty towards them. But in AT they are kind of the same colour as my Astorum Titans, which could be a bit boring. I'd just made up my mind to do Hawkshroud and now this! 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Another black and white legio, that's just lazy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5566986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 The Osedax one looks interesting as extra shooting is always good. It's arguably worse than the Fureans Offensive Surge stratagem, though it does apply to all your engines no matter what maniple they're in... except for the dead one. It's an advantage that you fire out of sequence. It is fairly likely to go off late in a combat phase, when engines will have lost their shields. There's potential for it to do major damage. We'll have to see their other strats to tell whether they're powerful overall, but so far these Legios all look pretty interesting. It's shaping up to be a good book. For me personally it's awkward that Taranis are getting rules. I play Taranis in 40k, so I feel quite a lot of loyalty towards them. But in AT they are kind of the same colour as my Astorum Titans, which could be a bit boring. I'd just made up my mind to do Hawkshroud and now this! Yeah, it's hard not to compare their rule directly with Offensive Surge. I guess BBB could be triggered outside the combat phase, but it's probably not something to plan for in most cases. That's a great point on when it's most likely to be triggered, too. anyway wait, hol' up. Taranis is getting rules in this book? I must have missed that, but that's rad. If you're worried about schemes looking too similar, have you considered a textural contrast? Like a metallic blue on the Knights vs a flat blue on the Titans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 anyway wait, hol' up. Taranis is getting rules in this book? One of 6, per their FB page So far them & the purple + blue traitor chaps we saw previewed a few months back 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Yeah they were posted on Facebook today. First proper image we've seen of Heresy Era Taranis. They're exactly the same colour as my Astorum! Or at least they're also dark blue. If I did them a slightly different dark blue they'd just clash. They have gold trim, interestingly. That's different to 40k. I think it could look good actually because it's going to be different to the metal of the bodies. On the plus side, I'm reasonably comfortable painting dark blue at this point. 1ncarnadine and Beren 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresillian Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Will there be any new transfers ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Yeah they were posted on Facebook today. First proper image we've seen of Heresy Era Taranis. They're exactly the same colour as my Astorum! Or at least they're also dark blue. If I did them a slightly different dark blue they'd just clash. They have gold trim, interestingly. That's different to 40k. I think it could look good actually because it's going to be different to the metal of the bodies. On the plus side, I'm reasonably comfortable painting dark blue at this point. You could do the first of Taranis in their post-heresy scheme, or something of a hybrid scheme that shows the bridge between the two? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Will there be any new transfers ? Not this weekend, it would appear. Edited July 20, 2020 by fire golem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 It'll be interesting to see the new maniples - I'm guessing we'll see one that pairs Warbringers with Warlords as they're the only Titan the former haven't yet been combo'd with - maybe we'll even get an all-Warlord maniple as there are already exclusively Reaver/ exclusively Warhound maniples (although having the starting cost be 3 Warlords might be too much for that one to be feasible). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Niice taranis blue like in the novel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5567264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Thrilled to see Morbidia finally get some art! Mendi Warrior, 1ncarnadine, Iron Hands Fanatic and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 So Defence of Ryza has Megaera & Styrix knights on the cover, and there's internal art of the Atropos? AT Mechanicum knights here we come Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I guess this confirms Mechanicus knights are on the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Acastus as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Uveron Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I guess this confirms Mechanicus knights are on the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Acastus as well. Just confirmrs they have the art for it, and they know its part of the setting. But yeah, its on the 'To make list' well before any Xenos stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I guess this confirms Mechanicus knights are on the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Acastus as well. Just confirmrs they have the art for it, and they know its part of the setting. But yeah, its on the 'To make list' well before any Xenos stuff. I mean, there's been art for the Atropos since before Titanicus released, in FW's Retribution - but it's never made an appearance in an AT book, just like the Warbringer & Porphyrion hadn't until they had models available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Thrilled to see Morbidia finally get some art! It's nice to see them getting some art, I agree. And I'm happy to see admech knights appear, though I'd be happier still to see more Titans. But for crying out loud, that trait again! A Seneschal's banner can already reroll 1s any time it uses its WS or BS, so that does nothing at all. Bizarre that they'd do this again, having given out similar in other books. That's incredibly careless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Me too; I would prefer one of each type for my Cerastus Banners rather than having to buy two of each. But if necessary it can be done :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I hope they’re not resin from FW or I will be scratchbuilding it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/page/5/#findComment-5568405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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