Brother Captain Ed Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I don't expect much. A GK-style supercharge would be great. But, realistically, as long as we get a logistically reasonable way to get a Talons army on the table and a couple neat rules or stratagems to synergize the separate elements then I'll be a happy camper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5502808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kervin40k Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Would it be too much to ask for AC to become viable with only codex units? balordazul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Would it be too much to ask for AC to become viable with only codex units? That would be nice but I'm really curious what GW has planned in the next wave of AC units. Will we see something shocking and unexpected or some FW models converted to plastic like we have seen before. Either way wave two will likely not be until we get a new codex or a new edition. I remember GW saying that the Talon's kits namely the AC guard boxes selling extremely well and it was one of the reasons to develop AC as a codex for 40k. Well I hope the info in this coming preview weekend has more content then what we have seen in the first two. I would love for the War of the Spider to expand our lore some as I up to speed on all the books and want more. ----- Edit 4/13 YAY we now have a Talon's logo finally done in a PA promo. :) Edited April 13, 2020 by balordazul Shield-Captain and Kervin40k 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Torch. Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 The video was cool! Also, I noticed that Fabius is leaning over a Custodian at the end, which could be interesting from a Chaos perspective, but could easily be that it's just because the Custodes are hunting him in the book. @Kervin40k I'd like to see them add a Land Raider Crusader at a reduced cost. I feel it would suit us more than the Godhammer pattern. Although I get why they chose the Godhammer as we had very little in the way of anti-tank when we were first released. Kervin40k 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Ya this could be really interesting will we see a counterpoint CSM one off unit? Is this just a "new men" release or a start to a major reboot to the CSM non cult range? It should be good and I do hope GW can push the CSM design work. Also I vote Valdor to save us from 2020, just saying. AfroCampbell and Lucerne 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Chaos Chosen/supermarine sculpts like that art are probably too much to hope for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Chaos Chosen/supermarine sculpts like that art are probably too much to hope for. GW never released those chosen easy built kits as a real kit form the 6th(?) ed starter did they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5505798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconCouch Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Now I'm nervous. Because Bile in the trailer is messing with a Custode, people are rumor milling that GW is going to release Fabius Bile's 'New Men' as Chaos Custodes equivalents. This would be extremely, obnoxious. Another army to make us feel less elite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Now I'm nervous. Because Bile in the trailer is messing with a Custode, people are rumor milling that GW is going to release Fabius Bile's 'New Men' as Chaos Custodes equivalents. This would be extremely, obnoxious. Another army to make us feel less elite. Would probably be just like us but with an extra attack due to hateful assault! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Let's keep the discussion focused on what AotI factions might receive and not heretics. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Do we think the "subfactions" of the Custodes might receive an equivalent of Chapter Tactics? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 Do we think the "subfactions" of the Custodes might receive an equivalent of Chapter Tactics? I hope not. Custodes all take same training right? Maybe something like: battle strategy that you can change every turn like Marines have their doctrine but stronger to make up for not having tactics? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Maybe Shield Hosts might not get "Chapter Tactics", but I could certainly see Warlord Traits for each. They all have the same training, but the various Shield Hosts put said training to different ends. Shadowkeepers could get a benefit against a character/unit chosen before the battle, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Its possible they might get faction traits They have more units than Scions and Scions got a whole bunch of regimental doctrines Theres already mention of the various factions within the Custodes Would be interesting what they come up with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 And they definitely fight in different ways. Although, admittedly, "acting as bodyguards for other Imperial dignitaries" might be a bit hard to carry across. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Well fingers cross we get something in the preview tomorrow even if it is just talking about the publication or the corrections for the new characters. I also hope this is the last preview weekend. Dallas Drake 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Torch. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Despite the lore in Chris Wraight's books suggesting the Custodes are a uniform force, I can see us getting options for traits. At the very least I think we will see an all encompassing 'Doctrine' style buff for the army, which I would probably prefer to individual Shield Host traits. With the news of the UK lock down being extended for another 3 weeks at least, I think its unlikely we will here anything about War of the Spider for a while. We have seen a preview of the release in the form of Fabius Bile, so I would expect the next preview, if it is related to Psychic Awakening, to focus on Engine War. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 New traits could represent tips and tricks they've learned since making their roles more broad than they were before the Indominus Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Torch. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Yeah, that would be a good way of explaining it. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5507905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconCouch Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I am getting increasingly nervous. As time marches on, we have yet to hear a single, solitary detail about anything in War of the Spider about the Custodes getting some help/some love.If we get only lip service changes, the army is pretty much toast til 9th ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5524781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 I mean we aren't a particularly good army currently but not usable in friendly games that's certain. Did anyone ever pick Custodes for their tourny performance? And I think like engine war and the one after us they don't know how to go about previewing things until they start shipping them out. At the least wait for Saturday when the 'big reveal' happens before getting nervous. Can most people even play the game yet anyways? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5524892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The yare stretching out the engine war previews still and thats the book before ours, we still know nothing about most of that books contents after all! Itll come when Spider is next up on the schedule, though hopefully not so painfully stretched out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5524909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFinisher4Ever Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I definitely wouldn't lose hope yet. As others have said, we won't see rules previews for War of the Spider till after Engine War is out in the wild. It also wouldn't be too difficult to bring Custodes back into the middle of the pack. I remain optimistic myself since most factions have come out of the Psychic Awakening looking far better than they were before it. A strong mono-faction ability could be all we need. Edited May 21, 2020 by TheFinisher4Ever Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5524934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Fingers crossed for tomorrow/later today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5525832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Well as a positive for today's reveal...FW index are all getting rewritten *soon* for 9th. Hopefully they give us a talons index or something like an index for sos and Custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362874-war-of-the-spider/page/3/#findComment-5527121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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