Marshal Vespasian Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 Damn! That is pretty. Results like these make me want to give nmm another go. m0nolith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5565988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Not much work lately, i've been super spread thin with once again, too many projects. However, been slowly chipping away at this apothecary. Real apothecaries use nartheciums... Dr_Ruminahui and Aztek 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5566163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Question for this crew:  Someone shows up to a game with a Land Raider variant X and says it will be played as Land Raider variant Y.  Wargear options are as WYSIWYG as can be given the proxying. The model is painted as is the rest of the army.  Yay/Nay?  Obviously if it's a fairly casual game I think most people would be ok with that. More competitive games, maybe not so much.  My thoughts are that with all the various financial, supply chain, and distancing issues happening to many folks here in 2020, where is the leeway for some things?  Hidden Content Specifically, I am considering using a ("classic") Land Raider Phobos as a Land Raider Proteus. Both have sponson Twin-LInked Lascannons and the Proteus can be upgraded to have a Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter, thus having the WYSIWYG part covered. AFAIK, the actual footprint and shape on the Tabletop is pretty darn close as well. The main issues are that its technically a proxy and the actual look of the thing.  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Phobos has an extra door right in the front. But why run it as that? Is it a Ded Transport option thing? Shouldnt be a problem. Make oppo aware and dont use the front ramp or actually try to charge anything with the assault ramp rule..Speaking of... three colors! Its done right?... Yeah, no... lots to do. Edited July 20, 2020 by Brother dean Indefragable, WrathOfTheLion, LameBeard and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Phobos has an extra door right in the front. But why run it as that? Is it a Ded Transport option thing?   Shouldnt be a problem. Make oppo aware and dont use the front ramp or actually try to charge anything with the assault ramp rule..  Proteus is DT for Seekers. Also like the Exploratory Web Augur option big time. Great call on the front door. Brother dean 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 And is a DT for Interemptors.. I had the same internal discussion. Especially with the horror stories over assembly but it wasnt too bad.. Yet...  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 And is a DT for Interemptors.. I had the same internal discussion. Especially with the horror stories over assembly but it wasnt too bad.. Yet... IIRC, FW Resin Land Raider and Spartan horror stories mostly come from the time before the tracks were molded onto the side panels of the tank and you had to glue them on yourself and potentially have to cut links because of size issues.  When I built my spartan, the longest and hardest part were those :cuss tracks I swear to god I almost threw it across the room before coming to my senses and realising what an expensive resin brick I was holding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 And is a DT for Interemptors.. I had the same internal discussion. Especially with the horror stories over assembly but it wasnt too bad.. Yet... IIRC, FW Resin Land Raider and Spartan horror stories mostly come from the time before the tracks were molded onto the side panels of the tank and you had to glue them on yourself and potentially have to cut links because of size issues. When I built my spartan, the longest and hardest part were those tracks I swear to god I almost threw it across the room before coming to my senses and realising what an expensive resin brick I was holding. Tracks are still loose on the Proteus kits. Wasnt a horrible fix but it did bring out the saws... DO NOT.. put the sponsons half on and try to put the gun and mount on later... Slips 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Ouch my dude, ouch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Jeah my proteus was okay to build Till I got to the tracks... Â I feel proxying any lr for another variation is okay. Â I had been proxying my 40k BT rhinos for my 30k fists for the longest time because I didnt see myself investing upwards of 100 euros and 2-4 weeks of free Time into 3 x 35pts. Â Now I was getting annoyed with the whole thing so I talked myself into painting magnetized rhino chassis that can become preds or a scropius or rhinos. Which was way more time consuming in terms of building but I'll a) actually use the scorpius b) field yellow rhinos c) put a pretty nice armoured breakthrough list on the field once I have painted a 4. rhino chassis and some sicarans. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020  My thoughts are that with all the various financial, supply chain, and distancing issues happening to many folks here in 2020, where is the leeway for some things? Specifically, I am considering using a ("classic") Land Raider Phobos as a Land Raider Proteus .... The main issues are that its technically a proxy and the actual look of the thing.  I'd be fine with this - but it would be really cool to see a conversion of the Phobos with something different at the front - maybe some reworked bit like the Achilles to get rid of the door, maybe that iconic* central viewport? And maybe some extra ariel or scanner on the top?  *yes I know the word "iconic" is overused, but if the Land Raider Proteus doesn't deserve it, then what does?  Brother dean and Indefragable 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I'd be fine with the phobos representing the proteus landraider, in my opinion. Just let your opponent know rule differences. Speaking of phobos...I'm at an odds on how to do the camo net/canvas. Dark grey, like an eshin grey?   And is a DT for Interemptors.. I had the same internal discussion. Especially with the horror stories over assembly but it wasnt too bad.. Yet... IIRC, FW Resin Land Raider and Spartan horror stories mostly come from the time before the tracks were molded onto the side panels of the tank and you had to glue them on yourself and potentially have to cut links because of size issues.  When I built my spartan, the longest and hardest part were those tracks I swear to god I almost threw it across the room before coming to my senses and realising what an expensive resin brick I was holding.  They used to come molded off? Oh man... I just got my first spartan, and was looking at the chunks of resin like; "This doesn't look so bad". Sucks, because I ordered the Blood and Skulls industry alternative tracks. Oh well, means less swearing, yeah? Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) Just finished the final touches on a Praetor for my Dark Angels. Â Yes, I know, Indomitus Terminator armour is bad in 30k. But I couldn't NOT use the model for a Dark Angels character once I saw Forge World's Lufgt Huron's right shoulder. Â Say "hello" to Gustavus, Legionnaire born of Nordyc, Terra; Praetor I Legion Astartes - Later first Chapter Master of the Northern Lions: Â Personally, I think this model would represent him during the Late Heresy-era, with an early prototype of what would go on to become the standard Storm Bolter. Edited July 21, 2020 by Gederas Aztek and okonomiyakimarine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 He looks good, if it were me though I would switch out the storm bolter for a tigris combi bolter from the tartaros termi's + add a scope, just my personal preference though. Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 He looks good, if it were me though I would switch out the storm bolter for a tigris combi bolter from the tartaros termi's + add a scope, just my personal preference though. I would do that.... But I'm worried about potentially damaging the arm by removing the storm bolter :lol:  Might do it before priming though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020  He looks good, if it were me though I would switch out the storm bolter for a tigris combi bolter from the tartaros termi's + add a scope, just my personal preference though. I would do that.... But I'm worried about potentially damaging the arm by removing the storm bolter  Might do it before priming though.   If you don't care about saving the stormbolter + hand, you can clip it apart in sections, use a sharp hobby knife to tidy up the hand to remove the excess to make space for the tigris combi bolter with hand. Its doable. These days I find it easier to not worry about the hands when doing weapon swaps since bare grips aren't a thing anymore. Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 He looks good, if it were me though I would switch out the storm bolter for a tigris combi bolter from the tartaros termi's + add a scope, just my personal preference though. I would do that.... But I'm worried about potentially damaging the arm by removing the storm bolter  Might do it before priming though. If you don't care about saving the stormbolter + hand, you can clip it apart in sections, use a sharp hobby knife to tidy up the hand to remove the excess to make space for the tigris combi bolter with hand. Its doable. These days I find it easier to not worry about the hands when doing weapon swaps since bare grips aren't a thing anymore. Well.... I did it: WrathOfTheLion, LameBeard, Hungry Nostraman Lizard and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 And i like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Even better! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 That tigris pattern looks so much better. Well done there! With the black scheme of the 1st Legion, he'll fit right in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 :cuss .  I just primed some terminators this morning and now I see what you’ve done with the Tigris combi-bolters.  }*#^{^|+{*{^^|+{¥]+*€,^{*{£  Looks great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Heck yea looks even better, its crazy how a simple weapon swap can tip a indomni armour guy straight to HH era even more. Also Huron was a good pick for that conversion. I never realized Huron was styled that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 What size base for a Javelin Attack Speeder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5567893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 What size base for a Javelin Attack Speeder? 60mm, I believe  The apothecary is finished!   LameBeard, okonomiyakimarine, WrathOfTheLion and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5568795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Really good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/11/#findComment-5568884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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