Valkyrion Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) I don't like to follow my own post, but yesterday I built a Mastodon. What a ballache. The thing with FW stuff is that person A may experience something different to person B, but I watched this video and he's not wrong. It just doesn't fit together. it looks like it does, it feels like it should, but it actually doesn't. but like anything, you can make it fit, which is what I've done. I'm a very inexperienced FW builder and I managed to build a Mastodon. Lots of sawing, I left a few bits out, but I am a bear of little brain and I built this kit. I will be proud of this fact forever. I'm fine with all the gaps, because I myself made it. It might sound silly, but I did. And once its painted, it will look like an adequately painted Mastodon that I have done all by myself from start to finish, and if I decide it's for a dark scheme then the gaps become less apparent. Edit - the photos are to show all the worst bits. there really is/are gaps everywhere and I don't believe that you could build this kit as intended because things genuinely don't fit. i know the difference between making things fit and expecting things to fit, and in this kit, as I've experienced, things genuinely don't fit. Edited December 1, 2021 by Valkyrion Indefragable, Freakshow668, Doghouse and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5768915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Magnus Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 That is disappointing. The Mastodon is one of my wish list kits to get some day but I question that more and more with each build review I read. I love the concept and look; I’m also concerned the assembly will ruin that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5768955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Bust out a fresh pot of liquid greenstuff, some water and a sculpting tool. You say you don't care, but you eventually will after you paint it up leaving it looking like that. WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5768961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate Khornate Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Perfect example of why I don't mind recasters and 3D printing. If I'm paying top dollar I better get good quality. Imren 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5768973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I have also gaps on my Mastodon but they are not as big as those. I remember the doors were a real pain to assemble them in a way that there won't be gap. There are also holes for magnets to hold them in place. Those magnets help a lot to get them closed properly. Use greenstuff and/or plasticard for those gaps. You will hate yourself after you have painted it without covering them. WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5768975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Great work Valkyrion - it looks like a true beast! I never mind aspects on any vehicle where joins aren't seamless - we're working with resin mainly, and it's never going to be perfect. Others have mentioned Liquid Green Stuff - and I'd echo this (with some rolled up 'pencils' of Green Stuff for any larger gaps). If you fill the gap and smooth appropriately, it then just looks like it has been industrially welded - which I think we can all agree definitely suits the aesthetic, and may well suit the Legion it'll belong to all the more! In terms of my own hobby recently, I've picked up some second-hand Scorpiuses (Scorpii?) - which have been on my list for a good while. Looking forward to getting these into a new livery... even if it'll be a shame to go over the current paint job. Valkyrion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5769554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 been converting up some boxnoughts for my Iron Hands from the blood angels versions I've had lying around - it's taken quite a bit of cutting and re-positioning but I'm pretty happy with how I've reposed them, they feel a lot more dynamic than what you can manage with the parts straight out of the box CyderPirate, Chaeron, Cactus and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 i have a terminator problem. im now sat at 40 indomni termies for my late war fists. GodEmperorOfMankind, LameBeard, Dosjetka and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Dude im jealous. Only got 10 cataphractii for mine. Gotta build some huscarls and shooting termies at some point tho. Also tartaros Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Dude im jealous. Only got 10 cataphractii for mine. Gotta build some huscarls and shooting termies at some point tho. Also tartaros if i could take huscarls and nullificators as indomni i would add more :D i have thought of adding some "proto Grey knights" for some nullificators in catafractii armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 i have a terminator problem. im now sat at 40 indomni termies for my late war fists. I imagine the only problem is having to use a new Rite of War to fit them all in a list ;). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 i have a terminator problem. im now sat at 40 indomni termies for my late war fists.I imagine the only problem is having to use a new Rite of War to fit them all in a list ;). Pretty sure pride.of the legion will let me take 3 units of 10 termies, however yes I can't obviously use every single HQ in one go :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 i have a terminator problem. im now sat at 40 indomni termies for my late war fists.I imagine the only problem is having to use a new Rite of War to fit them all in a list . Pretty sure pride.of the legion will let me take 3 units of 10 termies, however yes I can't obviously use every single HQ in one go Oh absolutely, it’s just probably not one you use regularly! I think I’ve only seen a handful of instances of it being used in the wild… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5770702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Fafnir Rann and Dominion Zephon models to be released in conjunction with the Black Library Celebration 2022! In plastic too. WrathOfTheLion and Loquille 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5771574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Think ill get em both and try for the limited sigsmund book. Will go great with my ltd valdor book. Ill be interested to hold the rann model in my hands. He looks way busy and the axes look too large for my taste currently. Could be a thing of perspective though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5771901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ill be interested to hold the rann model in my hands. He looks way busy and the axes look too large for my taste currently. Could be a thing of perspective though. Yeah, I think he might need to be toned down a notch, but then, we've only seen one frontal image. Also, needs to put on his helmet, though bearded is still better than clean shaven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5771910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I'll probably pick up both just for display. If we get to the SoT, I'll probably end up doing WS and not BA or IF. Might convert a SW HQ out of Rann as well, may pick up a second for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5771993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think I'll do WS and BA both so I got all three defending legions. But more rite of war specific lists for BA and WS. Luckily i got a sharp craft knife to tone down rann by hand if needs be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5772002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I was thinking between BA and WS, but I figure more people that I know will end up doing IF/BA, and if we do SoT themed forces it'd be much more fun to have all three there. I might eventually get to BA later, but not committing to it unlike WS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5772003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think I'll do WS and BA both so I got all three defending legions. But more rite of war specific lists for BA and WS. Luckily i got a sharp craft knife to tone down rann by hand if needs be. Don’t forget Dark Angels WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5772032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ive been thibkibg that as well. And the newer models are damn pretty Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5772062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I've got some liquid greenstuff and I'm going to attack the mastodon at the top of the page - I've never used LGS before, so any tips? Do I just thickly brush it on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5774931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I've got some liquid greenstuff and I'm going to attack the mastodon at the top of the page - I've never used LGS before, so any tips? Do I just thickly brush it on? id avoid using a brush unless its a cheap one you dont mind binning it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5774981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) I've got some liquid greenstuff and I'm going to attack the mastodon at the top of the page - I've never used LGS before, so any tips? Do I just thickly brush it on? id avoid using a brush unless its a cheap one you dont mind binning itI've found that cotton swabs (not cheap-cheap ones that come apart easy) are great for the task. If smaller space, using one swab as a pallet, and another broken in half to use the middle of the other stick as the "applicator" is my other kludge way. Bonus points if you sand the stick break-point to be a wedge to apply in tiny cracks before smearing in. Edited December 22, 2021 by Dark Legionnare Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5775058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainblow Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I've got some liquid greenstuff and I'm going to attack the mastodon at the top of the page - I've never used LGS before, so any tips? Do I just thickly brush it on? Would go with something harder, like a colour shaper/clay shaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363129-30k-hobby-chat/page/59/#findComment-5775105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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