Slave to Darkness Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) As some of my conversion bits have gone rouge since I have moved I cant do the Khornate Guardsmen and some other bits for the 12 months challenge, so naturally I have swapped them for some more Guard instead, so this is next on my to do list... Guardsmen, Engineers, Grenadiers, Command Squad and a cheeky Master of Ordnance hidden away in there I made from the weird officer body on the WGA French sprue, I think I may just use those bodys for artillery crew and all things explody. Still waiting on the box of French to show up, fingers crossed its just delayed and the postman hasnt been eaten by the local junkies and all the post dumped in the river. Thought I may as well get the Avatar painted, its been in that state for about 6 years now. ++EDIT++ Im thick and cant spell... Damn you Derek Zoolander center for kids who cant read good and who wanna learn to do other stuff good too!!! Edited December 22, 2021 by Slave to Darkness Etheneus, GreenScorpion, Warhead01 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I really like you kit bashes. I thought the Grognards parts were a little weird on the Germans when I was looking at my bits pile but I think you've done someting here that's sold me on the weapons/arms put onto the Germans. I'ma give it another go! Hope your bits turn up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 TBH I want feeling it at first anyway, everything looked weird, when I slapped a backpack on them it bulked the torso area out so they stopped looking like Kiera Knightley in American Football body armour and more like actual space dudes. French should turn up tomorrow, just picked up glue and black primer ready :D I have kept some Grognard parts to throw on a unit of french to make a unit of Greatcoat vets, would be easier just sticking german heads on the Grognard bodies but the french sculpts are vastly superior to the Grognards. Quick question to you lot, heavy weapons (heavy bolters, mortars and autocannons) in infantry squads? Worth doing or should I keep them in heavy weapon squads instead? Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallarn Commander Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 With my Tallarns I've always put 1 heavy weapon and 1 special weapon in each of my line infantry Squads. I sometimes also bring heavy weapons squads. But I've found heavy weapons squads just lack the ablative wounds of infantry squads. Even back in 3rd edition when they were more durable with 6 1-wound models as opposed to today when they have 3 2-wound models. But plenty of folks just stick their heavy weapons into heavy weapons squads and run their infantry Squads with 0 to 1 special weapon. It's really a case of 6 to 1 and half a dozen to the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I'm starting to think Heavy weapons in squads, except maybe Mortars, is the way to go. my own team of Missile was wiped out far too easily in the game if fielded them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Thinking about it, all my heavy weapons are wheeled except the mortars, so I think Ill stick a couple of wheeled weapons in guard squads as they will be easier for my mandollies to move around. Although I am still curious to what people say the pros vs cons are of heavy weapons in infantry squads from a gameplay point of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Really depends on how you are planning to use your Infantry squads. Gamewise for mobile table-runners a HWT would be more burden than a useful addition, dew to the size of HWT base, movement penalty to shooting heavy weapon and points cost increase of a unit that is going to be destroyed in most cases. Also don't forget that Obsec rule counts models and technically a squad without HWT has 1 model more than a squad with HWT. For a home guard squad HWT can be a nice addition, adding some firepower, indirect morale boost (you loose one model not two) and yes you have a Heavy weapon with more Ld and wounds. Slave to Darkness 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 I may stick a few heavy weapons in some squads, variety and all that... The frenchies have finally turned up!!! *happy shovel noises* Master of Ordnance and command squad done. 4CIN87, Tallarn Commander, Etheneus and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Looking good! Any chance of a pic of your Knight? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 Aye Ill get a picture of that later, needs the leg panels painting and gluing but its nearly done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 A few wip shots... Gonna have a few people hung from the back carapace on razor wire. Just google the images from the hellscenes in Event Horizon and you can see what kind of 'decorations' Ill be going for. WarriorFish, GreenScorpion, The Pounder and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Woah, looks really good. My next project will be Black Legion as my daughter collects Eldar so I can split the upcoming box! The Knight will be a fantastic centrepiece when finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) What Craftworld does she play?? Got my eye on that box myself as the missus plays Khorne renegades and Im working on a little Biel Tan force as a slow burn project, so far I have first ed minis with a second ed Avatar, I was gonna keep it with old minis but those Rangers and Autarch are just too sexy to pass up. and I plan on more Knights in time. :D Edited December 25, 2021 by Slave to Darkness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5775983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 Boxing day bash mini done, this dude is in a greatcoat but you cant really tell. 1 Frenchie down, 34 left to go. Hope everyone had a good... whatever you all celebrated yesterday (or the day before if your Slav, my missus (Lithuanian) and her friend (Latvian) did it all on the 24th, I mean damn Jesus was a white man from Hull get the days right :lol: ) Etheneus, Warhead01 and GreenScorpion 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know of ay good documentaries about WW1, not the reasons why but something based on the actual forces fighting, tactics, equipment etc, I have found a youtube channel called 'The Great War' with what I think is an Australian presenting but their vids are a bit on the short side, ten minute vids aint doing it for me :'( I did get a 3 dvd boxset called the Great War as well but a lot of the footage is recycled over the dvds, I have seen the same tank explode many times now... This is the said boxset, if anyone is interested dont bother, very low quality product... Edited December 26, 2021 by Slave to Darkness Shamansky 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 Never been a fan of Praetorians but as my local WGA seller does them for £20 a box I may do a small platoon of them now I have seen these... Should be out soon next year hopefully, they have also made a horse sprue that they may sell on its own, if they do I may try converting some of the Germans into Deathriders... duz_, Warhead01, 4CIN87 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know of ay good documentaries about WW1, not the reasons why but something based on the actual forces fighting, tactics, equipment etc, I have found a youtube channel called 'The Great War' with what I think is an Australian presenting but their vids are a bit on the short side, ten minute vids aint doing it for me :'( I did get a 3 dvd boxset called the Great War as well but a lot of the footage is recycled over the dvds, I have seen the same tank explode many times now... This is the said boxset, if anyone is interested dont bother, very low quality product... I used to watch (or better to say 'listen') some while at work, but those are more like lectures than documentary films and are in Russian. which i think is a no-go for you. About lack of footage on WWI topic. Just a reminder: they did not have personal cameras to make lots of vids those times. More so, only a few soldiers really had access to the phones to take pictures. Not speaking of that phones were actually phones only. Edited December 27, 2021 by Shamansky Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I’ve watched the series 1914-18 a few times whilst painting my Krieg. It covers the home front as well as the eastern/western fronts! The version I watched was narrated by Judi Dench. There’s also “And they shall not grow old” which was made by Peter Jackson! It’s short but informative. Lastly there’s World War 1 Apocalypse. I don’t know if you have Sky but I downloaded it from there. Hope that helps. Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 Cheers guys, and Russian ones wont be too much of a problem, the missus is half Lihuanian and half Russian, if she dont translate Ill send her to Gulag, or the kitchen to do my laundry. Gulag would be safer, my socks have become hostile. Gulag jokes aside I have built 5 Grenadiers from the French box and lost motivation over xmas, Ill try get my finger out and get more done today... :) walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5776478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 I have had to change my 12 months last vow from scenery to more shovel bois... So this is what else I need to do. Once I get this lot and my current workload done all my WW1 themed stuff will be done, finally. Then I get to crack on with my WW2 Guard, but that will have a lot more camo in the colour scheme so I wont get burnout from all this grey.. I was thinking about adding some more Soviet themed units to go with my Ratlings, but I also thought Genestealer Cults may be an interesting way to play them with all the ambush shenanegans and whatnot. Do you guys think that would be worth trying or should I stick with the Guard dex?? Im not too clued up on Stealer Cults, not used them since 2nd ed. duz_, Warhead01, The Pounder and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 So what's the verdict on the WGA French WW1 models then? What' the good the bad and the ugly look like? I'm looking for more motivation, something to get the juices pumping. I'm kinda in between projects right now, I guess it's that time of the year... Happy new year! And keep fighting the good fight! The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 Some mold lines in annoying places but nothing that cant be sorted out with a little patience. No shovels at all that was my only gripe. :lol: Im not sure if one of the left arms is mislabeled or Im just retarded but no major issues that cant be fixed, I just spent a few mins seeing what arms matched up and that was it, German bits fit fine as well with no issue, and Grognard arms fit great as well. The rifle grenade was annoying, you just stick it to the end of the barrel but the bayonet is in the way so that needs trimming off but again not really an issue. Not sure what to do with the 5 'officer' looking bodies, may sculpt armour over them like the WW1 German Stormtroopers. Shouldnt be too hard or take up too much of my time, just need to get the motivation to do it. The extra sprue of WW2 bits I have not really looked at, just used a few backpacks and a knife arm and thats it. Out of 10 Id give it a 9, only because of the lack of shovels. I wonder if I can find some tiiiny bolt croppers, makes sense a siege regiment carrying them. The Pounder and Warhead01 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 Oh yeah, found this over xmas, cant stop watching it. Warhead01 and The Pounder 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I’d never seen the old Stormtrooper armour before! Now I see where the Engineer armour was from! Those guys at Forgeworld really did their homework. Slave to Darkness and Warhead01 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Yeah not many images came up when I just googled Stormtroopers, changing my search to German Stormtroopers was better, less Star Wars :lol: Thats why I loved Krieg back in the day, even the Vraks books felt like I was reading a history book with colour sections taken from one of the Osprey Men at Arms books. Tallarn Commander and The Pounder 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367180-stallenberg-502nd-with-added-norfolkian-8th-pip-pip-old-chap/page/5/#findComment-5778739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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