TrawlingCleaner Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I think MCC has nailed it here, the structure of the rumoured boxes makes a lot of sense for a game system that they're looking to push as one of the main lines. Limited release big box then 3 boxes after a month in smaller scales. I'd love to get into HH but I missed out on Calth and Prospero, there's been no real entry point for new players. Smaller boxes for people to "dip their toes" in would be a fantastic way to launch the game. I for one have many horrible memories of 7th edition that I'm not sure I'd actually enjoy playing the game. A smaller starting point means I be as bummed out if I don't enjoy it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 More to come. It's from the comment section at Natfka. Mikhael 41 minutes ago Got the note, that I get today further informations Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I think MCC has nailed it here, the structure of the rumoured boxes makes a lot of sense for a game system that they're looking to push as one of the main lines. Limited release big box then 3 boxes after a month in smaller scales. I'd love to get into HH but I missed out on Calth and Prospero, there's been no real entry point for new players. Smaller boxes for people to "dip their toes" in would be a fantastic way to launch the game. I for one have many horrible memories of 7th edition that I'm not sure I'd actually enjoy playing the game. No Eldar and no Tau here so no worries. Sarvis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 That wildly up scale from previous rumours and seems slightly off, specifically with the boxes as they dont exactly match any current releases from GW, like 10 man box of the mk6, obviously, but then you just have a start collecting and a slightly smaller start collecting? The Numbers dont really seem to break down into two forces. They also left out a few of the armies in the Compendium, and i doubt we would see a team just moved over from FW to GW, given the way FW works is so intertwined aside from the writers. Not impossible though, just feels off and wishlisty. That being said, 9th edition launched with Idomitus (limited edition) and a series of variously sized starter sets. Yes but thats what really makes me suspicious, objectively AoD has never been even half as successful as AoS/40k and these days is very much in a stable with the other Specialist games, this whole thing reeks of wishlisting for exactly that reason. Perhaps if Old World had been touted as a studio production it might have some credibility but thats very firmly in the FW/SG corner even with its hinted at much more ambitious release schedule. That, and like i said the box contents dont really add up. Worth noting plenty of people play AoD on a smaller scale, its the only way ill play it for example as it minimises the nonsense in the rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicebod Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The only one that doesn't make sense to me is the "small" box...only 10 marines? I would expect that a small box would at least include 1 character/side. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The only one that doesn't make sense to me is the "small" box...only 10 marines? I would expect that a small box would at least include 1 character/side. It roughly matches the original 8th edition starters like First Strike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hmm...I haven't seen this artwork before... https://www.instagram.com/p/CVy3xodoTcx/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hmm...I haven't seen this artwork before... https://www.instagram.com/p/CVy3xodoTcx/ It says its fanart at the bottom. So while cool, unfortunately not official. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Yeah, it's fanart. Artstation link here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The only one that doesn't make sense to me is the "small" box...only 10 marines? I would expect that a small box would at least include 1 character/side. Unless that is just a translation error/confusion and it is referring to the MKVI marines being released in their own box, as you'd expect they will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicebod Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) There's a second round of rumors up on Natfka: via a very solid source on Faeit 212 "Heta-Gladius" Launch Box: - 240 BP - Miniatures (as said) - IF Castellan has two head options (with and without helmet) - SoH Preator has three head options (with and without helmet, corrupted face) - Campaign Booklet (as said) - Horus Heresy Fluff Intro Booklet (as said) - Large Softcover Rulebook - FW Horus Heresy Catalogue - Horus Heresy Flyer (how to expand your Horus Heresy Armies) Big Intro Box: - 180 BP - Miniatures (as said) - Both Characters / HQ choices are not the same identical from the Launch Box - Dreadnought is the Monopose from the Calth Box - Large Softcover Rulebook - FW Horus Heresy Catalogue - Horus Heresy Flyer (how to expand your Horus Heresy Armies) Medium Intro Box: - 100 BP - Miniatures (as said) - Both Characters / HQ choices are not the same identical from the Launch Box - Dreadnought is the Monopose from the Calth Box - Small Softcover Rulebook - Horus Heresy Flyer (how to expand your Horus Heresy Armies) Small Intro Box: - 40 BP - Miniatures (as said) - Small Softcover Rulebook - Horus Heresy Flyer (how to expand your Horus Heresy Armies) Citadel Colors: - 12 new Spray cans - some of them are fitting to layer colors - Sons of Horus Green Spray - White Scars Spray (return of "true white" as a spray) - Valrak Orange Spray (sorry, a joke by my source...) Age of Darkness Eras: Looks like this information was wrong, there will be no rule-wise slit into Eras like Great Crusade, Horus Heresy ect. in the future, only Campaign Books with those "Eras" in name. The only one that doesn't make sense to me is the "small" box...only 10 marines? I would expect that a small box would at least include 1 character/side. Unless that is just a translation error/confusion and it is referring to the MKVI marines being released in their own box, as you'd expect they will be. Based on the above, it sounds like that small box is the rulebook and the 10 marines...This all lines up with the persistent rumor that the "launch" box will be north of $300+ USD, but as always take with salt Edited November 3, 2021 by dicebod Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) They're out of there minds at those prices, if theyre true. Cant see many people stumping up £240. Id hate to see the cost in dollars or for the Aussies! Edited November 3, 2021 by MCC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm not certain of the validity of any of this stuff, but I could definitely see them releasing more sprays like that. If they do that, what we'll see is that certain 40k/AoS armies, etc. would also use some of those as a base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 marines with a softcover rulebook I would like. Every other box is insanely priced. Are these rulebooks about a new edition? Does the rumors say anything about that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 marines with a softcover rulebook I would like. Every other box is insanely priced. Are these rulebooks about a new edition? Does the rumors say anything about that? "Core Rules are technical 7th Edition 40k- Units and formations are like in 8th and 9th Edition" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I've not heard anything of late, everything clamped down the moment that person leaked the pictures. Noserenda, lansalt and Arendious 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 £240, really? Ooof. I guess I can understand if it comes with the spartan but still a fair bit even with all the stuff it comes with. Also GW must be wanting to get rid of the stock they have of the monodreads to make way for the new one if they're shoving it in all the other boxes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The thing I am most excited about is the small softcover rulebooks. I love that format! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The thing I am most excited about is the small softcover rulebooks. I love that format! Definitely, best format for rules used for actually playing the game :) Its something GW has abandoned recently and FW never liked though :( I've not heard anything of late, everything clamped down the moment that person leaked the pictures. Ty for the update though, it getting backed up/disproven by someone with credibility would be good. Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 marines with a softcover rulebook I would like. Every other box is insanely priced. Are these rulebooks about a new edition? Does the rumors say anything about that? "Core Rules are technical 7th Edition 40k - Units and formations are like in 8th and 9th Edition" Makes no sense. 8th and 9th have no formations? Spagunk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 10 marines with a softcover rulebook I would like. Every other box is insanely priced. Are these rulebooks about a new edition? Does the rumors say anything about that? "Core Rules are technical 7th Edition 40k- Units and formations are like in 8th and 9th Edition" Makes no sense. 8th and 9th have no formations?I assume that's referring to the detachment system. It seems to be translated into english anyway, regardless of the accuracy of the leak or not. So there's some language oddities. Edited November 3, 2021 by Darkwrath121 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hmm...I haven't seen this artwork before... https://www.instagram.com/p/CVy3xodoTcx/ It says its fanart at the bottom. So while cool, unfortunately not official. Ah darn, I got to get new glasses it seems... :( 10 marines with a softcover rulebook I would like. Every other box is insanely priced. Are these rulebooks about a new edition? Does the rumors say anything about that? "Core Rules are technical 7th Edition 40k- Units and formations are like in 8th and 9th Edition" Makes no sense. 8th and 9th have no formations? It was apparantely translated from german so don't get too caught up on the specific words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The thing I am most excited about is the small softcover rulebooks. I love that format! Same here! I still have the small softcover 7th Edition rulebooks that came with battleboxes from that era and would love to see them return with this release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 That 240£ box is clearly not for new guys. I mean people who have bought and played HH until now have forked out money to buy the stuff from FW (or several boxes of Calth and Prospero) and we all know how insanely priced some of this stuff is. I think this is the target group for that box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 See, I'm wondering it (since it was translated from German) if the 240 is Euros and not Pounds. If so then by GW numbers 240 Euros would be 180 GBP, which would be better to swallow but GW have been ballsy with their prices lately. Mogsam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/63/#findComment-5760849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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