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One thing I love about the chapter upgrade, crusader squad, and sword brethren kits is the presence of the little armor variations that were absent in many of the Primaris kits up until now. Studded brows on helmets, varied faceplates, pauldrons, and so on. I'm so happy we're getting details like that back. Compare the sword brethren to the bladeguard; the latter look so uniform compared to the former.

My only regret with Chonky Axe boi, is that most other marines on the blanche cover art seemingly don't have the same representation. The one guy's head is on the upgrade sprue, which is great, but other details will be hard to recreate... 

 

I don't have the insane talent of this guy who just recreated it entirely from scratch like the insane master piece here

*pleased noises* 

 

So every squad essentially gets a smaller relic to carry? or just a relic full stop?

 

Also, totally besides the point of this article, and the one yesterday, I seem to spot a new Sword brother in every big picture they use. That kit is looking like its very very versatile.

Edited by Reinhard

Sounds like these mini relics will be our version of special issue wargear or character upgrades like the Grey Knight visions of the prognosticators. I like this a bunch, really ussful to help a unit do its thing. The Icon of Heinman will be very good in a 20 man crusader squad where you can get -1 to hit or a sword brethhren squad to give them a small layer defense.

 

Awesome stuff, Im betting Blessed Hull returns as one of these mini relics!

*pleased noises*

 

So every squad essentially gets a smaller relic to carry? or just a relic full stop?

 

Also, totally besides the point of this article, and the one yesterday, I seem to spot a new Sword brother in every big picture they use. That kit is looking like its very very versatile.

Yeah looks to me like the model on the far right of the latest pic has a full 2 handed grip on a power sword. This sword breth kit is looking better everytime. The only disappointment so far is that there are no sign of any storm shields so if we want that we will have to have a squad of blade guard but based on the kit it really shouldn't be difficult to convert

*pleased noises*

 

So every squad essentially gets a smaller relic to carry? or just a relic full stop?

 

Also, totally besides the point of this article, and the one yesterday, I seem to spot a new Sword brother in every big picture they use. That kit is looking like its very very versatile.

I think because of the use of ‘unique’ in the rule you get to hand out each mini relic once. The picture shows four relics (but there may be more).

Sounds like these mini relics will be our version of special issue wargear or character upgrades like the Grey Knight visions of the prognosticators. I like this a bunch, really ussful to help a unit do its thing. The Icon of Heinman will be very good in a 20 man crusader squad where you can get -1 to hit or a sword brethhren squad to give them a small layer defense.

 

Awesome stuff, Im betting Blessed Hull returns as one of these mini relics!

Maybe I’ve misunderstood what you are saying but I think that icon only gives protection to one model, not one whole unit. Still, if it’s essentially free then no complaints from me

Sounds like these mini relics will be our version of special issue wargear or character upgrades like the Grey Knight visions of the prognosticators. I like this a bunch, really ussful to help a unit do its thing. The Icon of Heinman will be very good in a 20 man crusader squad where you can get -1 to hit or a sword brethhren squad to give them a small layer defense.

 

Awesome stuff, Im betting Blessed Hull returns as one of these mini relics!

 

The Icon of Heinmann is awesome, but only affects one model.  I'm thinking better used on a Termie Sgt or Bladeguard Sgt or really anything with a natural 2+ armor save.

Sounds like these mini relics will be our version of special issue wargear or character upgrades like the Grey Knight visions of the prognosticators. I like this a bunch, really ussful to help a unit do its thing. The Icon of Heinman will be very good in a 20 man crusader squad where you can get -1 to hit or a sword brethhren squad to give them a small layer defense.

 

Awesome stuff, Im betting Blessed Hull returns as one of these mini relics!

on a BGV or Temrinator it seems very good. and dont forget we have the selfless healer^^

Oh man, the Icon of Heinmann on a BGV Sgt, with 5+ FnP littany and transhuman is going to tank everything and seriously piss some people off.

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Oh man, the Icon of Heinmann on a BGV Sgt, with 5+ FnP littany and transhuman is going to tank everything and seriously piss some people off.

we dont know if 5+++ will survive the supplement.

 

but in any way this seems pretty good against Admech Rangers and against DE Witches

I'm not sure if there will be a points cost, the chaplain is effectively the tax for the relics as that's an hq slot and points taken up. Might be a slight cost increase over regular marine chaplains as well

 

I just can't imagine that is the case. The Chaplain in any form is hardly a tax; he is considered a vaulable force multiplier as is for any BT army, and are thematically fluffy/good as well.  Most BT armies contain one or more Chaplains, so they didn't require any more incentives (like free minor relics) to get them pushed into BT armies.  Don't get me wrong, I very much hope you're right, but I just can't see them being free.

 

Which parts of his armour are MkX? I can see only almost primaris-seized Firstborn. The mini’s cool, tho.

What part of the lore says that Primaris have to wear Mk X? They don't have a special black carapace. Plus you can put Primaris in the Armour Indomitus which pre-dates the Heresy so this is a non-arguement.

 

 

'Cause they don't fit in previous armour marks due to their superior size, compared to dwarf-marines?

 

 

 

 

Which parts of his armour are MkX? I can see only almost primaris-seized Firstborn. The mini’s cool, tho.

What part of the lore says that Primaris have to wear Mk X? They don't have a special black carapace. Plus you can put Primaris in the Armour Indomitus which pre-dates the Heresy so this is a non-arguement.

'Cause they don't fit in previous armour marks due to their superior size, compared to dwarf-marines?

I imagine some of the bigger firstborn are as big as some of the smaller Primaris. They're not all the same exact height in the lore.

I think this set of mini relics will be the equivalent of Special Issue Wargear the other supplements got, so they might cost points like SIW does but I dont think they'll be more than 20pts tops. They affect one model and while the two shown are good they arent worth more than 20pts, the Holy Orb could easily be 10pts imo.

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