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Noticed that both Grimaldus, Helbrecht, the new unnamed marshal, all have what Jes Goodwin calls "Crusade armor". I don't think it has this distinction is in the lore itself, but it exists visually on the models. 

 

Crusade armor is pretty much the same as tacticus armor, but it has a few difference, that being the crusade style extra armor on the helmet, a more prounounced gorget, and these little knee flap things. There's rounded joint on the outside on the knee, and this little "wing" of plating. Its supposed to be extra protection for the back of the knee.

 

And you can see this addition on grimaldus, helbrecht has it, the generic marshal has it. Who else has it? The bladeguard models. Who really look like they belong to Templars over any other chapter. 

 

I'm just convinced Jes Goodwin designed those exclusively for us originally, but then a GW execs decided they wanted it to be a unit for everyone.

Its so crazy to see our chapter is now the most focused chapter of them all. We have a Crusadersquad which gonna be very different to other troop choices in comparison to other Marines and 3!!! Primaris Special characters - More then Ultramarines

Marneus Calgar

Tigerius

Uriel Ventris

Roboute Guilliman

 

Its so crazy to see our chapter is now the most focused chapter of them all. We have a Crusadersquad which gonna be very different to other troop choices in comparison to other Marines and 3!!! Primaris Special characters - More then Ultramarines

Marneus Calgar

Tigerius

Uriel Ventris

Roboute Guilliman

 

R.G is not Primaris. 

Uriel Ventris is (at least for me) just an additional model for a captian. Imo he is just made for collectors and doesnt seem to have a special role in the ruleset. Thats why he is not in the UM Supplement so far ( not released in the time when UM supp was released). He is like Castellan Draco never used to be a real character in any codex. so there are just two charaters primarised. 

 

But of course the UM will ever stay the main Marine chapter before BT, DA, SW, BA and so on although we will stay in a good spot right now and next time I think.

Even if the Meta is against Marines right now... next Marine Dex is waiting and so we maybe are even in a better spot in next year especially we are not the slightly unpopular chapter next door in the same book. 

Edited by Medjugorje

Not really.

Aside from the fact he predates the Primaris Project, ordered its creation, based upon his own gene template, isn't even a Space Marine, and doesn't have the Primaris keyword?

 

Other than the backpack there is nothing that really that signifies him as a Primaris marine other than being far better scaled than old marine models

Well, high-ranking Astartes will of course have more custom-made artificer stuff than a line Primaris marine, so it's indeed not necessarily MkX at all. Fluff-wise it's entirely possible that artificers just reworked his old armor to account for the added bulk (I do believe Primaris being bigger than firstborn is still a thing in the fluff, even with all the retconning they've done?). Marines do like their relics, after all.

 

With the sisters getting redone and redefining the scale of the average human in setting and both Deathguard and Thousand Sons being pretty much the same height as a primaris I suspect the idea is now that they have a few inches over the average firstborn rather than a foot.

 

Lets face it the only thing that has really changed in model size in the last 5 years or so is that GW finally figured out how long legs are meant to be in proportion to the rest of the torso.

 

 

 

Its so crazy to see our chapter is now the most focused chapter of them all. We have a Crusadersquad which gonna be very different to other troop choices in comparison to other Marines and 3!!! Primaris Special characters - More then Ultramarines

Marneus Calgar

Tigerius

Uriel Ventris

Roboute Guilliman

R.G is not Primaris.

Uriel Ventris is (at least for me) just an additional model for a captian. Imo he is just made for collectors and doesnt seem to have a special role in the ruleset. Thats why he is not in the UM Supplement so far ( not released in the time when UM supp was released). He is like Castellan Draco never used to be a real character in any codex. so there are just two charaters primarised.

 

But of course the UM will ever stay the main Marine chapter before BT, DA, SW, BA and so on although we will stay in a good spot right now and next time I think.

Even if the Meta is against Marines right now... next Marine Dex is waiting and so we maybe are even in a better spot in next year especially we are not the slightly unpopular chapter next door in the same book.

Ventris has a unique load out tbf. You can’t make a regular captain with the same. He’s definitely a primaris special character with special rules.

 

Totally agree on guilliman

 

 

Either way, you guys all have three updated characters now! Good times!

 

I have to say, Templar’s have been treated very well, which makes sense, they have a large and loud fanbase and even people like me suggested templars should get a proper supplement in the questionnaire a few years ago.

 

I doubt other chapters will see anything similar in the foreseeable future honestly, which kinda sucks for other chapters (particularly the other two sons of dorn who are struggling a lot).

 

I am unsure I agree with sete on the power swords being proper ones though! To date they’re all essentially the same as the bladeguard ones, just with the cross guard made to be more Maltese cross-like

I hope (and expect) that GW will finally give each of the big 4 chapters a special relaese ( now BT and then DA + BA + SW any time in next few years). Dont know what they will do with Death Watch. I expect the same treatment there. And in the codex release the UM + IF will be the most important in the lore but just staying where they are. UM will get more established characters become Primarised and Fists maybe the one or other character.

I hope (and expect) that GW will finally give each of the big 4 chapters a special relaese ( now BT and then DA + BA + SW any time in next few years). Dont know what they will do with Death Watch. I expect the same treatment there. And in the codex release the UM + IF will be the most important in the lore but just staying where they are. UM will get more established characters become Primarised and Fists maybe the one or other character.

Not to be off topic but deathwatch should be a shoe in for kill team.

 

Also the current axe in the codex for the primaris space wolf lieutenant is Master crafted, so the axe option is currently S+2 ap-2 and D2. If that's the same as the Marshal's it'll be great for Toughness 3 and 5. I'm torn between the Sword and axe options. Swords are always cool but so are axes.

Edited by ChargingSoll

The reveals just keep coming and this one is the best so far!

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/28/get-a-black-templars-coin-and-miniature-in-store-and-youll-be-shackling-swords-to-your-wrist-in-no-time/

 

Our very own coin!! :P

 

 

 

In all seriousness though, pre order this weekend with the coin being available from the 2nd?

Edited by Gaius Maximus

The reveals just keep coming and this one is the best so far!

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/28/get-a-black-templars-coin-and-miniature-in-store-and-youll-be-shackling-swords-to-your-wrist-in-no-time/

 

Our very own coin!! :P

 

In all seriousness though, pre order this weekend with the coin being available from the 2nd?

Preorders for this weekend have already been revealed. Hoping for next.

Anyone else miffed that Grimmy is a bit to closely posed like the new EC? Enough with the holding up the weapons in display already. I know we'll be seeing some amazing conversions in the months to come, buuuuut - I had a high bar for this one. Is it nitpicky, at this point - with all we're getting, to be bummed it's just some STOCK pistol like every other one out there?

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