Black Library Siege of Terra - Garro: Knight of Grey

[dunkaroo]

On 1/8/2023 at 10:10 AM, Axineton said:

Looks nice this limited edition book.

 

Doubt I’ll have the dexterity to get it in the checkout and actually in my hands with the scalpers on the prowl though. 

 

Do we have a release date/time for the Limited Edition? I haven't been able to find any explicit information onit.

[Inquisitor Eisenhorn]

On 7/13/2022 at 6:06 AM, Valkyrion said:

Knight of Grey is a bit on the nose, isn't it?!

It’s James Swallow.

[spessmarine]

sounds right on par for the world that has (had) ferrus manus of the iron hands

Edited January 12, 2023 by spessmarine

[Moonreaper666]

 

 

6 hours ago, Fedor said:

 

That was an unneccessary attempt by Wraight to further change the older Death Guard background, to absolutely no improvement thematically. It wasn't like Wraight having to fix McNeil showing him go full Chaos Sorcery out of nowhere. He did that well, but there was no reason to take it any further than showing us Mortarion's bumbling, self-deluded attempts at learning more about Chaos in Daemonology. I get that some didn't like Mortarion being duped, but going down a "he knew all along and actually did it to make them stronger" route (even if Wraight is mildly ambiguous about it) as a potential fix was just stupid. It only makes Mortarion seem even more of an idiotic hypocrite. If Nick Kyme had introduced something like that, odds are it would be a meme laughing stock by now.

 

Even though i thought the details/characterisation in Swallow's depiction of the stranded fleet were often lacklustre and rushed, he at least got it right in a broadly thematic sense, with the end of the book really capturing the layering of Necare/barbarus, the emperor and Nurgle. The feeling of constant insidious manipulation and the bleak inevitability in it all was palpable.

 

 

 

Wasn't he always a hypocrite? He shares certain similarities with Russ

[Taliesin]

On 1/9/2023 at 3:34 PM, Kastor Krieg said:

What's the page count on this one? The hardback price I'm getting from my reseller is similar to the really thick Siege of Terra hardbacks like Echoes of Eternity (80 vs 90 PLN for Echoes), yet the Limited Edition render seems to indicate it's really thin?

 

Looks very short if the Amazon description is right, which it might not be. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Garro-Knight-Grey-Horus-Heresy/dp/1800262078/ref=sr_1_18?Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=38&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=2&qid=1673604913&refinements=p_30%3Agames+workshop&s=books&sr=1-18&unfiltered=1

[m_r_parker]

£40...

 

The audacity of it.

[aa.logan]

I got a copy to maintain my collection, but it’s the least I’ve been stressed about getting a BL limited book that I can recall.

[Preliminary Bombardment]

Yeah it's not selling out, just ordered there. 

[Von Großschmitt]

Just now, aa.logan said:

I got a copy to maintain my collection, but it’s the least I’ve been stressed about getting a BL limited book that I can recall.

 

Aaaand it's gone since 10.59 in Europe. Was able to snatch a copy at 10.55... In terms of stress: I absolutely agree with you. Just goes to show how small the incentive is for this one. Not sure if I would have paid an arm and a leg for the novel on Ebay. 

[Odd-ad]

And it's already gone, that's absolutely nuts. 

 

I wasn't too bothered about all if I missed this one, but I'm glad I did to keep the collection going. 

 

Can't help but feel like "The End And The Death" is gonna break that streak, but oh well 

[theSpirea]

1 minute ago, Preliminary Bombardment said:

Yeah it's not selling out, just ordered there. 

Not sure what you mean, sold out as quickly as the previous two SoT novellas.

[Matcap86]

12 minutes ago, m_r_parker said:

£40...

 

The audacity of it.

That's been the price for every SoT novella thus far? I'm just glad they didn't inflation correct this one to 60 or 65 euro.

[System Sound]

12 minutes ago, Odd-ad said:

Can't help but feel like "The End And The Death" is gonna break that streak, but oh well 

Volume 1 will be something to watch. More so the following volumes. The salt mines are going to be working over time and it's gonna be fun reading all the rage posts. Sadly GW/BL won't learn anything from it though...

[m_r_parker]

Yeah, the other novellas were the same price - it's just the comparison between the novellas and the main series in terms of price and book length.

 

Knight of Grey - £40* for 144 pages (3.6 pages / £)

Echoes of Eternity - £50* for 560 pages (11.2 pages / £)

Warhawk - £50* for 400 pages (8 pages / £)

Fury of Magnus - £40* for 226 pages (5.65 pages / £)

Sons of the Selenar - £40* for 192 pages (4.8 pages / £)

 

*Prices are Limited Edition prices (i.e. the price that I paid)

 

Even when compared to the other novellas, this one is light in terms of page length. 144 pages, which I presume also includes the mentioned afterword.

[Preliminary Bombardment]

1 hour ago, theSpirea said:

Not sure what you mean, sold out as quickly as the previous two SoT novellas.

 

Yeah I thought I got one without too much fuss there but it sold out while I was validating PayPal, or they hadn't bothered updating the store to show it was sold out.

 

So didn't get one, but not really bothered too much.

[Matcap86]

Oh yeah, can't argue with that. The novellas are even more overpriced than the mainline books. 

[Kastor Krieg]

4 hours ago, m_r_parker said:

Yeah, the other novellas were the same price - it's just the comparison between the novellas and the main series in terms of price and book length.

 

Knight of Grey - £40* for 144 pages (3.6 pages / £)

Echoes of Eternity - £50* for 560 pages (11.2 pages / £)

Warhawk - £50* for 400 pages (8 pages / £)

Fury of Magnus - £40* for 226 pages (5.65 pages / £)

Sons of the Selenar - £40* for 192 pages (4.8 pages / £)

 

*Prices are Limited Edition prices (i.e. the price that I paid)

 

Even when compared to the other novellas, this one is light in terms of page length. 144 pages, which I presume also includes the mentioned afterword.

And that's exactly why I was inquiring after page count. Only 144 pages and all of them from Swallow? Feth that noise.

[Krelious]

I got the CE, is it necessary to read Garro first before this book? it seems that novel is rather expensive and hard to find.

[Ubiquitous1984]

It looks like the novella will be very short.  It’s only 3 hours 40 minutes in audio format.

 

Surprisingly I’ve picked Tony Longworth for narration.  The Siege has been all Jonathan Keeble so far.  Not that I’m complaining: they both sit at the top table of BL narrators, and Longworth has always nailed Garro in the past.

[darkhorse0607]

4 hours ago, Krelious said:

I got the CE, is it necessary to read Garro first before this book? it seems that novel is rather expensive and hard to find.

 

Maybe not necessary but it would give what's going on more context and weight

[Mjasghar]

4 hours ago, Ubiquitous1984 said:

It looks like the novella will be very short.  It’s only 3 hours 40 minutes in audio format.

 

Surprisingly I’ve picked Tony Longworth for narration.  The Siege has been all Jonathan Keeble so far.  Not that I’m complaining: they both sit at the top table of BL narrators, and Longworth has always nailed Garro in the past.

It depends on availability as well and timetabling 

These voice actors do a LOT of other books and radio all the time 

[Ubiquitous1984]

7 hours ago, Mjasghar said:

It depends on availability as well and timetabling 

These voice actors do a LOT of other books and radio all the time 

Yeah Keeble certainly gets around!  I imagine that BL have these top performers on some form of retainer e.g. 30 hours a quarter of something like that.  

[theSpirea]

Probably the shortest Dramatis Personae I've seen.

For those wondering, the book is 33K words. Selenar 41K, Fury 62K

 

Edited January 16, 2023 by theSpirea

[DarkChaplain]

It's so short (and bloated with ads/backlists), the ebook is already around 15% finished by the time you get to chapter one....

Doing a quick search, it also mentions the "Khan" only once in passing, so it looks very much like it's set between Saturnine and Warhawk.

[Moonreaper666]

19 hours ago, theSpirea said:

Probably the shortest Dramatis Personae I've seen.

For those wondering, the book is 33K words. Selenar 41K, Fury 62K

 

 

So a Loyalist Death Guard and Imperial Army Garrison walk into a Plagued Bar

 

"What's up Cannon Fodder?" said the Nurgling Bartender

 

I wonder if Typhus is going to pull a kill-steal on his Primarch

 

Typhus alone woukd curbstomp the Loyalists in the Personae, even if they had Loken and Rubio assisting then!